The Politics Thread

[superjohnmcginlay]

Oh and the milk thingy. Harold Wilson started that. Git.

[Worthy4England]

Oh and the milk thingy. Harold Wilson started that. Git.

Indeed he did. He however didn't snatch MY milk. Not put me out of work as a Milk Monitor.

[CAPSLOCK]

You were a milk monitor at Primary School, I guess

Did I not recently read that Thatcher was against the removal of school milk to Primary School kids?

Thatcher became Queen in 1979...the unions who were 'under control' had had rubbish piled high in the streets, no fcuker putting fires out and bodies queued outside the mortuaries not that long before

[Worthy4England]

You were a milk monitor at Primary School, I guess

Did I not recently read that Thatcher was against the removal of school milk to Primary School kids?

Thatcher became Queen in 1979...the unions who were 'under control' had had rubbish piled high in the streets, no fcuker putting fires out and bodies queued outside the mortuaries not that long before

To point one - yes.

To point two - I believe so - but she didn't have the balls to tough her position out with Uncle Ted.

To point three - not sure what you're saying here. I said (assuming it's directed towards me) that the Union issue was all but over in the early part of the 80's. She'd already taken on most of them by the time the Miners strike kicked off in 84.

[CAPSLOCK]

Point 2 - you have to lose some battles to win the war?

Point 3 - we had a second 'Gulf War' cos we didn't finish the first one....

[Montreal Wanderer]

Point 2 - you have to lose some battles to win the war?

Point 3 - we had a second 'Gulf War' cos we didn't finish the first one....

Or, point 3, we had a second 'Gulf War' because George W. is a fundamentalist nitwit, who lied to his people about weapons of mass destruction and engaged in an illegal conflict. Ably assisted of course by big Tony.

[CAPSLOCK]

There wouldn't have been an Iraq to fight over if we'd done the job reet in the first place- pity Sir Margaret wasn't PM then

Then we wouldn't be tossing off over whether it was legal or not

Its a cold, harsh world out there where folk don't play by the rules

[Lord Kangana]

She was, however, PM when we sold all those arms to him and helped him build his power base. Then we had to waste money and lives sorting out that which we shoudn't have been meddling in in the first place. Its a cold hard world etc. etc

[CAPSLOCK]

Meddling in?

Somebody wanted to buy something

We sold it to them

Its the way of the world

Selling goods and services for profit

You know, like you do

It created employment anyroad, without any worries over whether it made sense...bit like the British mines under Labour

[boltonboris]

She was, however, PM when we sold all those arms to him and helped him build his power base. Then we had to waste money and lives sorting out that which we shoudn't have been meddling in in the first place. Its a cold hard world etc. etc

We sell arms to the Americans.... For massive, ginormous sums. what if they 'turned ugly' 10 years into the future

[Lord Kangana]

If you knew anything about the subject, you'd be frightening. We sold him arms to fight Iran, as the Americans were scared of the two being friends, seeing as they own about 85% of the wolrds oil between them.

[CAPSLOCK]

If you knew anything about the subject, you'd be frightening. We sold him arms to fight Iran, as the Americans were scared of the two being friends, seeing as they own about 85% of the wolrds oil between them.

As I was around at the time, not reading about it later, I know the background, thank you very much

[Lord Kangana]

So you won't need me to explain how hypocritical your post was then.

[Worthy4England]

Point 2 - you have to lose some battles to win the war?

Point 3 - we had a second 'Gulf War' cos we didn't finish the first one....

And this has precisely what, to do with when the Unions were defeated?

I would suggest fcuk all.

[CAPSLOCK]

I don't need you to (try to) explain anything to me

Hypocritical - coming from the Pomagne socialist, thats rich

[Lord Kangana]

I'll leave that to The Sun, eh?

[CAPSLOCK]

Point 2 - you have to lose some battles to win the war?

Point 3 - we had a second 'Gulf War' cos we didn't finish the first one....

And this has precisely what, to do with when the Unions were defeated?

I would suggest fcuk all.

I thought you'd have worked me out by now

Point being they still had one or two dinosaurs knocking about

It was best to take 'em out while they were weak not let them recover and re-arm

[Worthy4England]

Point 2 - you have to lose some battles to win the war?

Point 3 - we had a second 'Gulf War' cos we didn't finish the first one....

And this has precisely what, to do with when the Unions were defeated?

I would suggest fcuk all.

I thought you'd have worked me out by now

Point being they still had one or two dinosaurs knocking about

It was best to take 'em out while they were weak not let them recover and re-arm

So in my original post I said

The Union issue was all but over in the early part of the 80's. It needed some challenging - of that I have no doubt.

So apart from picking random bits from threads, you seem to be concurring with my original assertion?

We still have unions today, I think they still play a role.

[CAPSLOCK]

What does 'challenging' mean

They do - they fund their members EL claims

[Worthy4England]

What does 'challenging' mean

They do - they fund their members EL claims

Just make something up that suits your line of thinking - you usually do.

When push comes to shove, you can't have the Unions running the business. That said, there's plenty of improvements that Unions have campaigned for, that have been to the benefit of all.

I did have the balls to put the concept that no compulsory redundancy clauses were outmoded to a large collection of Trade's Unionists in the 1980s in the Winter Gardens in Blackpool - it wasn't universally welcomed.

But nor do I believe that destroying them completely is a good thing either.