What do you think of the state of Women's football??
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Re: What do you think of the state of Women's football??
'Tis.Prufrock wrote:Is it fook.bobo the clown wrote:It's still sexist.strideface wrote:I assure you this is not sexist in the slightest. The reason i made two separate links for men and women was so i could distinguish the differences in opinions (if any) between men and women. As i have found out, they do indeed differ.bobo the clown wrote:How sexist is this ??strideface wrote:Hey, i'd love to hear from you about what you think of the current state of Women's football in England. Just follow this link to the survey and get involved!
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Anyway, you could tell which were which. The wimmins' would be longer, more concerned with beauty products and, ultimately, pointless.
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Re: What do you think of the state of Women's football??
Shut up and make me a sandwich.bobo the clown wrote:'Tis.Prufrock wrote:Is it fook.bobo the clown wrote:It's still sexist.strideface wrote:I assure you this is not sexist in the slightest. The reason i made two separate links for men and women was so i could distinguish the differences in opinions (if any) between men and women. As i have found out, they do indeed differ.bobo the clown wrote:How sexist is this ??
Anyway, you could tell which were which. The wimmins' would be longer, more concerned with beauty products and, ultimately, pointless.
... & if you keep shouting at me I'll cry till you agree.
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Well, the survey has locked me out. I'm a bloke. I might go the equal opportunity commission over this.
I know that some of the comments on this thread have been light hearted, but why shouldn't women play football? As for the standard - does it matter? Just like the men they play to the best of their ability. Just like men a good coach (of either gender) can make a difference.
As to lesbianism, who cares? although from my very limited experience with high level women athletes (one) it's a load of cobblers. The lady in question was the girlfriend - now wife - of a boarder at my place, was incredibly fit and pretty to boot. She played for our state hockey team and was in line for selection in the national squad. He was a first grade rugby league player (the equivalent of the Premier League).
Why is it that so many men denigrate women footballers whilst at the same time lauding the feats and medals garnered by women in other sports? It's not that long ago that men did the hunting and women did the cooking. So, lads, you best get on your hunting gear and get down to Tesco, or Aldi, or M&S. Wimps, the lot of you.

I know that some of the comments on this thread have been light hearted, but why shouldn't women play football? As for the standard - does it matter? Just like the men they play to the best of their ability. Just like men a good coach (of either gender) can make a difference.
As to lesbianism, who cares? although from my very limited experience with high level women athletes (one) it's a load of cobblers. The lady in question was the girlfriend - now wife - of a boarder at my place, was incredibly fit and pretty to boot. She played for our state hockey team and was in line for selection in the national squad. He was a first grade rugby league player (the equivalent of the Premier League).
Why is it that so many men denigrate women footballers whilst at the same time lauding the feats and medals garnered by women in other sports? It's not that long ago that men did the hunting and women did the cooking. So, lads, you best get on your hunting gear and get down to Tesco, or Aldi, or M&S. Wimps, the lot of you.

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Re: What do you think of the state of Women's football??
It may not be sexist but it's grammatically poor. YOU'RE not YOURbobo the clown wrote:'Tis.Prufrock wrote:Is it fook.bobo the clown wrote:It's still sexist.strideface wrote:I assure you this is not sexist in the slightest. The reason i made two separate links for men and women was so i could distinguish the differences in opinions (if any) between men and women. As i have found out, they do indeed differ.bobo the clown wrote:How sexist is this ??
Anyway, you could tell which were which. The wimmins' would be longer, more concerned with beauty products and, ultimately, pointless.
... & if you keep shouting at me I'll cry till you agree.
WOMAN not WOMEN
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Re: What do you think of the state of Women's football??
Hang on. There was only one to start with. You're just confusing the issue now.strideface wrote:Hey, i'd love to hear from you about what you think of the current state of Women's football in England. Just follow this link to the survey and get involved!
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Re: What do you think of the state of Women's football??
Well that's the state of the education system in this country.Gary the Enfield wrote:bobo the clown wrote:'Tis.Prufrock wrote:Is it fook.bobo the clown wrote:It's still sexist.strideface wrote:I assure you this is not sexist in the slightest. The reason i made two separate links for men and women was so i could distinguish the differences in opinions (if any) between men and women. As i have found out, they do indeed differ.
Anyway, you could tell which were which. The wimmins' would be longer, more concerned with beauty products and, ultimately, pointless.
... & if you keep shouting at me I'll cry till you agree.
It may not be sexist but it's grammatically poor. YOU'RE not YOUR
Re: What do you think of the state of Women's football??
the state of the education system in this countrysuperjohnmcginlay wrote:
Well that's the state of the education system in this country.
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Well, yes. It IS essentially light-hearted, but on a more serious comment ... we are being force-fed equality, although that, as in most political correctness, is horribly one sided.Dujon wrote:I know that some of the comments on this thread have been light hearted, but why shouldn't women play football? As for the standard - does it matter?
Of course women may, can and should play football. Just stop telling us how good they are.
We are being informed routinely that Women's football is of increased standard. This is the same as the promises that the USA Soccer League's will come up to European standard. It isn't ... & it won't. It's a bit like the ever improved washing powders we are told about. If it's always getting better just how shite was it in the first place ?
In a few weeks we will have the excruciating experience of the Women's FA Cup final being played live on the BBC. We will be told from all sides just how skillful and capable these girls are. Then, if you watch it, you'll see how untrue that is.
Where it matters is that this gets a greater than deserved amount of pubicity from official circles while the paying public take little or no notice.
Their standard is held back by their insistance, in the name of equality, that they play on full sized pitches, with full sized goals whilst the average player is ... as a fact of genetics ... maybe 80% the size of male footballers. This leads to the ludicrous spectacles, referred to above, of the goalkeepers being beaten by almost any shot that hits high or wide on the target.
Correct .... what does it matter if an above average proportion of women atheletes are gay ? Just as an above average proportion of male actors, dancers, tv personalities, hairdressers, aircraft cabin-crew are gay. It doesn't matter ... not one jot.As to lesbianism, who cares? although from my very limited experience with high level women athletes (one) it's a load of cobblers.
But the suggestion that this inference is cobblers (I like what you did there, by the way) is incorrect. It doesn't matter ... but it is the case.
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I like you!Dujon wrote:Well, the survey has locked me out. I'm a bloke. I might go the equal opportunity commission over this.![]()
I know that some of the comments on this thread have been light hearted, but why shouldn't women play football? As for the standard - does it matter? Just like the men they play to the best of their ability. Just like men a good coach (of either gender) can make a difference.
As to lesbianism, who cares? although from my very limited experience with high level women athletes (one) it's a load of cobblers. The lady in question was the girlfriend - now wife - of a boarder at my place, was incredibly fit and pretty to boot. She played for our state hockey team and was in line for selection in the national squad. He was a first grade rugby league player (the equivalent of the Premier League).
Why is it that so many men denigrate women footballers whilst at the same time lauding the feats and medals garnered by women in other sports? It's not that long ago that men did the hunting and women did the cooking. So, lads, you best get on your hunting gear and get down to Tesco, or Aldi, or M&S. Wimps, the lot of you.
In all seriousness as a women who has both played and is a qualified level 2 FA coach theres a lot of crap been written on here.
Womens footballs main problem is the lack of money in the game - still. Its a viscious circle. Standards don't go up because there are no professional players in this country, there are no professional players because of the lack of money in the womens game, there is no money because there is a lack of interest from the (largely male dominated) media (think how TV pumps tons of money into the mens game) the lack of interest is because of the relatively low standard of play because women footballers aren't paid to train every day and have to hold down a job.
Womens football is the fastest growing sport in the country, i have played for 2 different ladies team - one which had no lesbians in at all and one which was about half and half - not that it really matters either way (and no, i'm not!) I have coached girls teams, boys teams and mixed and i can tell you up to age 11 at least, girls can more then hold their own playing in a boys team. Often they mature faster at that age and are actually bigger and stronger til boys overtake them in the teenage years.
I don't see any reason why the skill level between men and women should differ. Yes, men may be faster and stronger and the argument for slightly smaller goals and pitches may make womens football more interesting to watch but the lack of good facilities, training time, quality coaching and equipment are really whats holding womens football back here and its all down to money. We lose most of our best female players to America where they DO get paid.
As for coaching. I was the only female on my level 2 FA course of about 30 people - only about 15 qualified - it was a flipping hard course and loads of the men couldn't stand the pace. I don't see any difference between men and womens coaching ability and i would be more then happy for someone like Hope Powell to be given a chance at the Arsenal job once Sir Wenger

How would you boys feel about a coach such as Hope Powell taking over Bolton at some point in the future? If you remember she was linked with a managers job in the football league a few months ago.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha.BWFC_Insane wrote:Some of the comments on here about womens football are similar to what used to be said about womens tennis. Now I reckon the power of some of the top women is equal of SOME of the blokes.




You crack me up.
Even the Williams brothers wouldn't hold a set against any one of the top 100 men. They just wouldn't.
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boltonaremysecondteam wrote: As for coaching. I was the only female on my level 2 FA course of about 30 people - only about 15 qualified - it was a flipping hard course and loads of the men couldn't stand the pace. I don't see any difference between men and womens coaching ability and i would be more then happy for someone like Hope Powell to be given a chance at the Arsenal job once Sir Wengerretires.
How would you boys feel about a coach such as Hope Powell taking over Bolton at some point in the future? If you remember she was linked with a managers job in the football league a few months ago.
and given the reaction on your arsenal board when the very idea that Hope Powell might become Grimsby Manager (I believe I was one of the very very few who didn't think the world would explode if it happened), then despite the fact that Arsenal have the most successful Womens' Football Team of all time (I believe), then the message about womens football has failed to catch on - even there - what chance elsewhere?
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Look at the serve speeds of Venus Williams and Lleyton Hewitt for example. Not a lot in it. Hence the power is actually not far apart.bobo the clown wrote:Ha, ha, ha, ha.BWFC_Insane wrote:Some of the comments on here about womens football are similar to what used to be said about womens tennis. Now I reckon the power of some of the top women is equal of SOME of the blokes.![]()
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You crack me up.
Even the Williams brothers wouldn't hold a set against any one of the top 100 men. They just wouldn't.
At what point did I say they'd hold a set or beat the men?
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There isn't any real reason is there? Probably historical - in the past women were not seen as "fit enough" or capable of playing 5 sets. And probably because they'd need to add a week on the the slams in order to fit all the matches in!thebish wrote:why do women not play five-set matches then, like the men?BWFC_Insane wrote:Some of the comments on here about womens football are similar to what used to be said about womens tennis. Now I reckon the power of some of the top women is equal of SOME of the blokes.
Men play 3 sets the majority of the time anyways! Its only the slams where they play 5 and I imagine the 3 set womens matches are down more to TV scheduling and feasibility now than owt else.
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