The Politics Thread

[Worthy4England]

One really bad side effect of coalition government, is that CAPS seems to be talking in record sleeves and huge graphics for his sig, ever since it was announced.

How this ties in with the joint pledge on making everything greener, given the additional network chug to pull the graphics over the network is beyond me.

CAPS used to be just very efficient at saying.

Fcuk off.

Come back Gordon - all is forgiven.

[thebish]

http://carlmaxim.wordpress.com/2010/05/ ... portfolio/

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has said that he is ‘honoured’ by his new appointment as personal fag to David Cameron.

Under the arrangement, Mr Clegg will perform household chores for the Prime Minister including pressing his trousers, brushing his jacket and polishing his shoes. In return, Mr Cameron will protect Clegg from being bullied by other members of Cabinet.

‘Of course Clegg is not a full boarder,’ said Cameron, ‘he’s a day boy. But rest assured, we will treat him with the respect that he deserves.’

‘This is a unique opportunity,’ said Clegg, ‘For some people, running around and opening doors for your fagmaster might seem demeaning. But for me, this is a price that I have to pay. That, and my lunch money.’

David Cameron denied allegations that some Liberal Democrats were already being bullied after Danny Alexander was found with his head down the lavatory and Chris Huhne had to visit matron after being given a wedgie. ‘This is all part of the rough and tumble of government,’ said Cameron, ‘I am sure that the new boys will soon get used to this horseplay and find their rightful place in the pecking order, at the bottom.’

Meanwhile, it is understood that Vince Cable will be expected to wear a pinny and serve tea to Chancellor, George Osborne. ‘This isn’t exactly what I had signed up for,’ said Mr Cable, ‘and it may take a little while getting used to my new ministerial title as ‘Scullion’.’

When asked whether he had sold out to the Prime Minister, Clegg replied, ‘I have made his bed, and I will lie in it.’

[thebish]

Theresa May as Home Secretary...

and I was just thinking this cabinet was shaking out as very dominantly "male" - which doesn't look like "new politics" to me...

Chris Grayling put out to pasture - not before time!

he resigned cos he couldn't live with the idea of Nick and Dave sharing a room...

[CAPSLOCK]

Milibands are dodgy looking fcukers

And Labour women

Get some make up

[bobo the clown]

Milibands are dodgy looking fcukers

And Labour women

Get some make up

Their father, Ralph, was my Politics tutor for 3 years. Nice guym but unrefined leftie who felt that the Soviet ideal was a winner & that the press gave the Soviet Bloc a bad rap.

I must have met these 2 as 10 or so year-olds.

[Relentless09]

i don't follow british politics but i found this amusing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... 663681.stm

BNP man fights with group of asians

[William the White]

Milibands are dodgy looking fcukers

And Labour women

Get some make up

Their father, Ralph, was my Politics tutor for 3 years. Nice guym but unrefined leftie who felt that the Soviet ideal was a winner & that the press gave the Soviet Bloc a bad rap.

I must have met these 2 as 10 or so year-olds.

It's unfair to give the impression that Ralph M was an uncritical supporter of the Soviet Union - he was a committed opponent of Stalinism and the Soviet model... his books are available as testimony to that... He was with other important British Marxists, like E P Thomson, in founding New Left Review whose whole project was breaking away from Russia-worship...

I imagine he would be firm in his criticism of a propagandist press attacking the Soviet Union but I don't see any evidence that he found that bureaucratic, undemocratic state an ideal...

Was this at Leeds, bobo?

[Hoboh]

[thebish]

From NewsBiscuit

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/05/12/b ... ction-win/

Brighton still under cloud of smugness six days after Green election win

Airspace over the south of England remains closed today due to an impenetrable low-lying sulphurous cloud of smugness hanging over the Brighton area. The cloud follows a major eruption of self-satisfaction in the early hours of last Friday morning, after the election of Britain’s first Green MP Caroline Lucas in the Brighton Pavilion constituency.

Holidaymakers planning to visit Brighton are being told to reconsider, as the cloud is said to represent a serious health hazard. ‘Travelling through Brighton has always been nightmarish,’ explains Ken Warbiton, environmental health expert. ‘The concentration of jugglers and micro-scooters often exceeds eight parts per 1,000 in the town centre. But this latest eruption outstrips anything we have seen for years; to find comparable levels of smugness you would have to go back to the premiere of Fahrenheit 9/11 in Islington, or that Banksy retrospective in Bristol.’

The Green victory is being attributed by pundits to the work of the grassroots Dinner Party Movement. But the election win has been deeply controversial, and is being roundly condemned by mainstream ‘Dinnerpartistas’ – many of whom are claiming that the movement has been infiltrated by members of the far-right-on.

‘This win is a huge embarrassment to us,’ claimed Sara Cleese, de-facto non-head of the Dinnerpartistas. “The whole point of the Dinner Party Movement is to declare to your friends over crema catalana that you are heartily sick of all the main parties and jolly well plan to vote Green this time, not to actually do it, yah?’

[a1]

From NewsBiscuit

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/05/12/b ... ction-win/

Brighton still under cloud of smugness six days after Green election win

Airspace over the south of England remains closed today due to an impenetrable low-lying sulphurous cloud of smugness hanging over the Brighton area. The cloud follows a major eruption of self-satisfaction in the early hours of last Friday morning, after the election of Britain’s first Green MP Caroline Lucas in the Brighton Pavilion constituency.

Holidaymakers planning to visit Brighton are being told to reconsider, as the cloud is said to represent a serious health hazard. ‘Travelling through Brighton has always been nightmarish,’ explains Ken Warbiton, environmental health expert. ‘The concentration of jugglers and micro-scooters often exceeds eight parts per 1,000 in the town centre. But this latest eruption outstrips anything we have seen for years; to find comparable levels of smugness you would have to go back to the premiere of Fahrenheit 9/11 in Islington, or that Banksy retrospective in Bristol.’

The Green victory is being attributed by pundits to the work of the grassroots Dinner Party Movement. But the election win has been deeply controversial, and is being roundly condemned by mainstream ‘Dinnerpartistas’ – many of whom are claiming that the movement has been infiltrated by members of the far-right-on.

‘This win is a huge embarrassment to us,’ claimed Sara Cleese, de-facto non-head of the Dinnerpartistas. “The whole point of the Dinner Party Movement is to declare to your friends over crema catalana that you are heartily sick of all the main parties and jolly well plan to vote Green this time, not to actually do it, yah?’

before'd

http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/sp_vid_104282/

[thebish]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8689187.stm

shhh... nobody tell Chris Grayling!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

was much more likeable than your average New Labour type (not difficult, admittedly..).

Despise as i do most New Labour types, they are infinitely more likeable than any member of margaret thatcher's cabinet... or the current one... imvho, of course...

Think I'd struggle to name more than half a dozen cabinet ministers from Thatcher's entire time in office, because it's.. er... history!

Can't find anyone you like amongst Ken Clarke, William Hague, Nick Clegg, Chris Huhne, Vince Cable, David Laws..?

Well, I was just dealing with the last Tories and their current allies... Last ones are, indeed, as you say, history... It's surprising for the person who claims great pride in traditions which must not be thrown away by anything as daring as a majority of the british people, who is lost in admiration for the british constitution created piece by piece over many centuries, who has posted here of his affection for the 'mother of parliaments' etc to suddenly claim no interest in 'history' - but let that pass, since I'm feeling too generous to over-mock... and, in any case, i know you merely posted that for polemical reasons...

Of the current list you offer Clarke is a never was but ever so good at the unctuous, Hague a has-been who you presumably love for his forging of alliances between Tories and far right xenophobes and homophobics, Clegg is nature's public school fag, Huhne a former believer in human rights now preparing to swallow his own vomit, Cable a man recognising a mistake yet still prepared to make it and, remind me, who is david laws...

Which do you like best? Tell us, do...

I'm not claiming a lack of interest in history - quite the opposite is true - I'm just saying that 'history' is not the same as 'current affairs' and shouldn't be treated as such.

Many thanks for your generosity, however.

Whatever their various political stances, I think those are all quite likeable blokes aren't they, unless you are just revulsed by all politicians of a different stripe to your own?

[William the White]

was much more likeable than your average New Labour type (not difficult, admittedly..).

Despise as i do most New Labour types, they are infinitely more likeable than any member of margaret thatcher's cabinet... or the current one... imvho, of course...

Think I'd struggle to name more than half a dozen cabinet ministers from Thatcher's entire time in office, because it's.. er... history!

Can't find anyone you like amongst Ken Clarke, William Hague, Nick Clegg, Chris Huhne, Vince Cable, David Laws..?

Well, I was just dealing with the last Tories and their current allies... Last ones are, indeed, as you say, history... It's surprising for the person who claims great pride in traditions which must not be thrown away by anything as daring as a majority of the british people, who is lost in admiration for the british constitution created piece by piece over many centuries, who has posted here of his affection for the 'mother of parliaments' etc to suddenly claim no interest in 'history' - but let that pass, since I'm feeling too generous to over-mock... and, in any case, i know you merely posted that for polemical reasons...

Of the current list you offer Clarke is a never was but ever so good at the unctuous, Hague a has-been who you presumably love for his forging of alliances between Tories and far right xenophobes and homophobics, Clegg is nature's public school fag, Huhne a former believer in human rights now preparing to swallow his own vomit, Cable a man recognising a mistake yet still prepared to make it and, remind me, who is david laws...

Which do you like best? Tell us, do...

I'm not claiming a lack of interest in history - quite the opposite is true - I'm just saying that 'history' is not the same as 'current affairs' and shouldn't be treated as such.

Many thanks for your generosity, however.

Whatever their various political stances, I think those are all quite likeable blokes aren't they, unless you are just revulsed by all politicians of a different stripe to your own?

In what sense are they likeable? I guess they may be able to crack good jokes, have good taste in wine and football club, be kind to their children, commit adultery discreetly, not want to send people to be tortured (so far, but under consideration)... But, since i don't know any of them in that way, I'm not qualified to say...

Should I be?

'Revulsed'? Is this a verb?

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

In what sense are they likeable? I guess they may be able to crack good jokes, have good taste in wine and football club, be kind to their children, commit adultery discreetly, not want to send people to be tortured (so far, but under consideration)... But, since i don't know any of them in that way, I'm not qualified to say...

Should I be?

'Revulsed'? Is this a verb?

I've only met Cable in person, but I don't think it's unreasonable to form a view as to these guys' likeability, separate from a consideration of their actual politics.

My main issue with George Osborne is that nobody looks at him and can even imagine cracking jokes or talking about wine or football with him - I don't think that's true of the people on this list... It used to be a problem (for Conservatives) because Osborne was not an electoral asset; now it's a problem because his lack of 'likeability' means he will find it more difficult to carry people with him when he speaks on difficult issues.

'Revulsed'... erm, past participle acting as an adjective? Am I being graded?

[Hoboh]

In what sense are they likeable? I guess they may be able to crack good jokes, have good taste in wine and football club, be kind to their children, commit adultery discreetly, not want to send people to be tortured (so far, but under consideration)... But, since i don't know any of them in that way, I'm not qualified to say...

Should I be?

'Revulsed'? Is this a verb?

I've only met Cable in person, but I don't think it's unreasonable to form a view as to these guys' likeability, separate from a consideration of their actual politics.

My main issue with George Osborne is that nobody looks at him and can even imagine cracking jokes or talking about wine or football with him - I don't think that's true of the people on this list... It used to be a problem (for Conservatives) because Osborne was not an electoral asset; now it's a problem because his lack of 'likeability' means he will find it more difficult to carry people with him when he speaks on difficult issues.

'Revulsed'... erm, past participle acting as an adjective? Am I being graded?

No it's part of the leftie clonning process, beware!

[William the White]

What is clonning?

[thebish]

The hype surrounding Cleggy's speech today about reforming politics is phenomenal.... apparently the greatest revolution in British representational politics since the 1830s....

of course that's what he will deliver, isn't it, rather than a meaningless hotch-potch of banalities, warm words and a couple of sparkly stunts....

[Hoboh]

The hype surrounding Cleggy's speech today about reforming politics is phenomenal.... apparently the greatest revolution in British representational politics since the 1830s....

of course that's what he will deliver, isn't it, rather than a meaningless hotch-potch of banalities, warm words and a couple of sparkly stunts....

Glad I'm not dys. dys, whatever

[Hoboh]

What is clonning?

sorry Sir!

[thebish]

The hype surrounding Cleggy's speech today about reforming politics is phenomenal.... apparently the greatest revolution in British representational politics since the 1830s....

of course that's what he will deliver, isn't it, rather than a meaningless hotch-potch of banalities, warm words and a couple of sparkly stunts....

Glad I'm not dys. dys, whatever

such a thing never entered my head.....