42 Million
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42 Million
There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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Hmm, that is obviously a brilliant sum, made even more so by the fact we've spent the square root of f*ck all of that in the last 9 months. Perhaps if we'd carried on at the previous rate, it wouldn't look quite so good now,would it, Gary?
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Re: 42 Million
Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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So Allardyce was shit too then? Okocha and Djorkaeff being luck based on the law of averages to cancel out Ibrahim Ba, Oscar Perez, Djibril Diawara, Ndiwa Lord Kangana, Chris Armstrong, David Holdsworth and Mario Jardel?truewhite15 wrote:Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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That's not what I said. Allardyce was a brilliant man manager and tactician, as shown by the league finishes we achieved. The players you mention cost us nothing in terms of transfer fees, and of the ones that failed, very little in terms of wages (individually, of course). Therein lies the difference. Allardyce can be forgiven the numerous misses in his transfers because they cost the best part of feck all and because of his managerial success rate. Megson cannot claim the same.Tombwfc wrote:So Allardyce was shit too then? Okocha and Djorkaeff being luck based on the law of averages to cancel out Ibrahim Ba, Oscar Perez, Djibril Diawara, Ndiwa Lord Kangana, Chris Armstrong, David Holdsworth and Mario Jardel?truewhite15 wrote:Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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Who is a good player and worth much more than Shittu who cost the same. Imho he does a pretty good job and was good when Cahill was injured last season.Tombwfc wrote:So Allardyce was shit too then? Okocha and Djorkaeff being luck based on the law of averages to cancel out Ibrahim Ba, Oscar Perez, Djibril Diawara, Ndiwa Lord Kangana, Chris Armstrong, David Holdsworth and Mario Jardel?truewhite15 wrote:Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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Definitely agree that he is a valuable asset as he is very versatile but i don't think i'd have him over Steinssonpete101 wrote:Bit harsh mentioning Ricketts in the same category as Riga and Shittu. A backup defender he may be, but he can play any position across the back 4 and on recent showings I'd have him in for Steinsson.
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No, that's pretty much exactly what you said. If you spend enough money on enough players, some will come good due to the law of averages. Also known as simple dumb luck.truewhite15 wrote:That's not what I said. Allardyce was a brilliant man manager and tactician, as shown by the league finishes we achieved. The players you mention cost us nothing in terms of transfer fees, and of the ones that failed, very little in terms of wages (individually, of course). Therein lies the difference. Allardyce can be forgiven the numerous misses in his transfers because they cost the best part of feck all and because of his managerial success rate. Megson cannot claim the same.Tombwfc wrote:So Allardyce was shit too then? Okocha and Djorkaeff being luck based on the law of averages to cancel out Ibrahim Ba, Oscar Perez, Djibril Diawara, Ndiwa Lord Kangana, Chris Armstrong, David Holdsworth and Mario Jardel?truewhite15 wrote:Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
That may be the case, but it's the same for every manager in the history of the game.
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Who's this guy Who?Gaz Tomorrow wrote:Who is a good player and worth much more than Shittu who cost the same. Imho he does a pretty good job and was good when Cahill was injured last season.Tombwfc wrote:So Allardyce was shit too then? Okocha and Djorkaeff being luck based on the law of averages to cancel out Ibrahim Ba, Oscar Perez, Djibril Diawara, Ndiwa Lord Kangana, Chris Armstrong, David Holdsworth and Mario Jardel?truewhite15 wrote:Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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must be Jardel as he was the last one mentioned...fatshaft wrote:Who's this guy Who?Gaz Tomorrow wrote:Who is a good player and worth much more than Shittu who cost the same. Imho he does a pretty good job and was good when Cahill was injured last season.Tombwfc wrote:So Allardyce was shit too then? Okocha and Djorkaeff being luck based on the law of averages to cancel out Ibrahim Ba, Oscar Perez, Djibril Diawara, Ndiwa Lord Kangana, Chris Armstrong, David Holdsworth and Mario Jardel?truewhite15 wrote:Right, fine, great, he spent money on Cahill, Lee and Muamba that (if we choose to sell) we'll be making a huge profit on. Brilliant. But then he spent £2M on Shittu, and pissed astronomical wages up the wall for a back up who never played. And he pissed wages for Riga up the wall. And spent £2M on a backup defender in Sam Ricketts. And blasted £8.2M away on Elmander, a player who despite this season's improved performances, still isnt worth that. It's all well and good that he signed Cahill and his ilk, but when you throw money at as many players as you can, you're bound to get a couple right on the simple law of averages.Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
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Who exactly is moaning about the money we have spent? Meggo bought ok. He managed his squad poorly. Has this not been said before?Sir Nut wrote:There was an article in the sun last week stating how much has been spent on each squad and if i can remember rightly we are 17th with the only teams that have spent less being Blackburn, Blackpool and West Brom (the entire squad). So everyone moaning about how much money we have spent should take a look at the facts. Also having players like Muamba, Cahill and Lee means we wont have to spend anything on these positions for a good 10 years. 42 million is cheap as hell and the squad we have now just after 2 seasons is worth way more than that and it will only increase!
Really? I think his life threatening injury had a little bit to play in him seemingly going backwards. I would say this season though two out three girls conceded have been from Steiner going missing or Knight rather than directly down to Chaill. Just my opinion like, not meaning to pick a fight or owt Caps.CAPSLOCK wrote:I thought the bold text was a giveaway
re Muamba - he was very good under Megson...he's improved under Coyle, but I'd expect that of a young kid
Conversely, it could be argued Cahill has gone backwards
Pfffft.
girls????TKIZ! wrote:Really? I think his life threatening injury had a little bit to play in him seemingly going backwards. I would say this season though two out three girls conceded have been from Steiner going missing or Knight rather than directly down to Chaill. Just my opinion like, not meaning to pick a fight or owt Caps.CAPSLOCK wrote:I thought the bold text was a giveaway
re Muamba - he was very good under Megson...he's improved under Coyle, but I'd expect that of a young kid
Conversely, it could be argued Cahill has gone backwards
But consensus is that Coyle gets more out of his players than Megson didTKIZ! wrote:Really? I think his life threatening injury had a little bit to play in him seemingly going backwards. I would say this season though two out three girls conceded have been from Steiner going missing or Knight rather than directly down to Chaill. Just my opinion like, not meaning to pick a fight or owt Caps.
I read all the time how Knight has improved
Yet plenty reckon Cahills not playing so well, and he really should be over his illness
Can't have it all ways...though some will want to try
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