Before Stoke scored and Howard Webb

[Prufrock]

He was shit. Doesn't mean the outcome would have been any different, but how a referee can look at that on Davo and say he had anything other than a shocker is beyond me. It was a penalty for at least three reasons.

[hi there, i'm chris]

Of course he was shit. He didn't give a penalty on what was almost an assault on Davies. Jones got away everything Davies didn't.

He wasn't the reason we lost (some could agrue that we would have gone on to win the game had we scored the pen, at least it would have changed the game somewhat.) but he had an absolute shocker. Even the Stoke fans/others who watched the game have said so.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Well, as my gran used to say..."if 'ifs and buts' were squirrels and nuts"

I never thought to ask her what the feck she was talking about.

[adamworthy2002]

Sundays performance had nothing to do with the referee, the thing that lost it is that we conceded FIVE goals.

[Lofthouse Lower]

I hadn't thought of it like that

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Yeah...Stoke were silly really, in that they only needed to score one to beat us cos we scored none, so they're the ones who come out of it looking a bit stupid arent they.

[boltonboris]

Does anybody actually think we'd have scored the penalty? Seeing as our players bottled it, I'm not too confident

[hi there, i'm chris]

I think so. I don't think we bottled it until they scored the first. Having watched the full highlights, we looked up for it. Davies would have stepped up I think.

It was when Stoke scored that it all went to shit.

[Montreal Wanderer]

He was shit. Doesn't mean the outcome would have been any different, but how a referee can look at that on Davo and say he had anything other than a shocker is beyond me. It was a penalty for at least three reasons.

I did see the play and the replay. I had it as a clear penalty for strangulation and for the handball, as did the commentators (I'm not sure what Pru's third was). We were playing well to that point and after they scored we had a meltdown. Momentum can play a big part in sporting contests, especially on a large stage. I have no doubt it would have been a very different game if the penalty had been given and converted. The pressure would have switched to Stoke and they might have had the meltdown, but all this is pure speculation and we'll never know. The penalty should have been given and Webb was in a perfect spot to see the infraction. However, it is all history now - we just lick our wounds and hopefully come back stronger for the experience.

[Worthy4England]

Sundays performance had nothing to do with the referee, the thing that lost it is that we conceded FIVE goals.

Or alternatively, the thing that lost it was that we weren't capable of scoring 6.

I came out of the ground wondering if we tested their goalie once. The "highlights" seemed to suggest that we did have a couple of shots, but in the scheme of things they were fairly uneventful.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Considering today's penalty, it may not have been scored anyway.

Webb may well have made the wrong decision. He wasn't the only bloke in shorts to do so that day.