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Gartside Interview

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 24, 2011 1:39 pm

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... er_season/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Most interesting bit for me is at the bottom about the "big changes expected".

This summer is certainly going to be interesting.

Positively we'll be getting rid of players who haven't contributed a lot this season.

On the downside we have to hope it isn't a repeat of the Sammy Lee summer where too many were brought in too quickly and we ended up in a mess.

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Post by ChrisC » Tue May 24, 2011 2:14 pm

I agree with the Sammy Lee comment, it is a worry, but as a fan it's exciting to hear the club are looking to get busy this summer. Nothing worse than watching everyone else bringing in new blood and then we bring in one maybe two and then have weeks of excitement right to the last day and then nothing happens come deadline day.

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Tue May 24, 2011 2:59 pm

we need at least 8-10 players i can't wait to see who we bring in
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Post by Beefheart » Tue May 24, 2011 3:23 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... er_season/

Most interesting bit for me is at the bottom about the "big changes expected".

This summer is certainly going to be interesting.

Positively we'll be getting rid of players who haven't contributed a lot this season.

On the downside we have to hope it isn't a repeat of the Sammy Lee summer where too many were brought in too quickly and we ended up in a mess.
I don't think it will be. If you look at who's been released, none of them were starters. I think they probably managed 10-15 appearances between them this season? The nucleus of the starting line up is still there, the only worry perhaps being upfront considering Elmander has gone and Sturridge may not return. But hopefully if we have some money to spend from the Cahill sale, the players we bring in this summer will be improvements on those that have left. I hope I'm right anyway...
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Post by Tombwfc » Tue May 24, 2011 6:07 pm

The departing players contributed 107 appearances, 23 goals and 8 assists between them. That doesn't include Cahill, but does include Gardner and Sturridge, who have an outside chance of staying.

It's not an impossible task by any means, but I'd say it's a fairly large one, especially if progress is the aim. The squad was acknowledged by Coyle on many occaisons as being too small, and we went into quite a few games unable to fill a subs bench.

It'll definately be a lively summer.

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Post by Beefheart » Tue May 24, 2011 6:11 pm

Tombwfc wrote:The departing players contributed 107 appearances, 23 goals and 8 assists between them. That doesn't include Cahill, but does include Gardner and Sturridge, who have an outside chance of staying.

It's not an impossible task by any means, but I'd say it's a fairly large one, especially if progress is the aim. The squad was acknowledged by Coyle on many occaisons as being too small, and we went into quite a few games unable to fill a subs bench.

It'll definately be a lively summer.
I meant those being released. Jloyd, Cohen, Gardner, JOB, Blake. Coyle doesn't really have much control of Elmander and Sturridge.

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue May 24, 2011 8:06 pm

Beefheart wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:The departing players contributed 107 appearances, 23 goals and 8 assists between them. That doesn't include Cahill, but does include Gardner and Sturridge, who have an outside chance of staying.

It's not an impossible task by any means, but I'd say it's a fairly large one, especially if progress is the aim. The squad was acknowledged by Coyle on many occaisons as being too small, and we went into quite a few games unable to fill a subs bench.

It'll definately be a lively summer.
I meant those being released. Jloyd, Cohen, Gardner, JOB, Blake. Coyle doesn't really have much control of Elmander and Sturridge.
Blake is staying apparently.
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Post by Prufrock » Tue May 24, 2011 9:08 pm

Tombwfc wrote:The departing players contributed 107 appearances, 23 goals and 8 assists between them. That doesn't include Cahill, but does include Gardner and Sturridge, who have an outside chance of staying.

It's not an impossible task by any means, but I'd say it's a fairly large one, especially if progress is the aim. The squad was acknowledged by Coyle on many occaisons as being too small, and we went into quite a few games unable to fill a subs bench.

It'll definately be a lively summer.
At least a third of that must be Elmander though, shirley? Appearances I mean, more for goals. Him, and should he go Cahill are the big ones. I agree I don't much see the point in replacing one set of deadwood with another set, but that isn't what could lead us to go backwards.

Also for all the Sammy Lee worries, the problem wasn't really, though it probably played a part, that he replaced so many of the squad, it was more that he replaced good players with shite, and also had no concept of width at all. Folk also forget he didn't have SKD for the majority of his time. Would he have gone so different so quickly otherwise? Probably, but we don't know.

We can be fairly sure Colye isn't going to have a stroke and decided Muamba Holden Mavies and Savis all at the same time with no width is a good idea. Honestly, I cannot for the life of me see where anyone gets the idea we will struggle next year from. There are at least 5 teams significantly worse than us. I'll still be nervous, and I also don't think we will enjoy an entire season free from any doubts we may get dragged into it, but we will have enough.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue May 24, 2011 9:58 pm

We have nothing to lose on the squaders. If the gamble fails, they won't play much. If it succeeds we have a better squad.

Take the gamble.
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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Tue May 24, 2011 10:10 pm

Contract extensions tend to mean higher wages. You've also got agents' fees, signing bonuses etc. From a club financial point of view it might make more sense to buy new deadwood... the new lot might even be better.
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Post by Turkish Trotter » Tue May 24, 2011 10:20 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:Contract extensions tend to mean higher wages. You've also got agents' fees, signing bonuses etc. From a club financial point of view it might make more sense to buy new deadwood... the new lot might even be better.
Not always, if club offers less they can accept or not.
If not they move on for free, thats the players choice.
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Post by CrazyHorse » Fri May 27, 2011 12:30 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 496355.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bolton Wanderers chairman Phil Gartside says their performances this season have been better than he expected.
The Trotters spent much of 2010/11 in the top half but finished 14th after losing their last five games in a row.
He told BBC Radio Manchester: "The season hasn't disappointed me because we wanted to improve on last year.
"To get to the position in the league we got playing some decent football and then getting to the semi-final of the FA Cup was beyond what we expected."
Wanderers had an impressive first full season under Owen Coyle and were lying sixth at the start of March after their 3-2 win over Aston Villa.
But Bolton then picked up just six points from their remaining nine games and lost the FA Cup semi-final 5-0 against Stoke.

"Expectations got a little bit heady at one point because we were pushing Liverpool and Everton so people were talking about Europe, but we never did," he added.
"The biggest blow was losing Stuart Holden, the injuries in general [have affected us], but Stuart's in particular.
"If you look at it, we've not had the benefit of Sean Davis, Jlloyd Samuel, Ricardo Gardner and then we lost Stuart and Mark Davies.
"We haven't got a luxury of a squad who can actually stand that. To have survived for as long as we did was a credit to the whole staff and the way they put the team together.
Gartside also spoke about the departure of the club's record signing, striker Johan Elmander.
The Sweden international forward was signed by Gary Megson from Toulouse in a transfer that was reportedly worth £10m.
"You can't look at it as an individual player, you've got to look at it as a squad overall," Gartside continued.
"You've got to add up what you think the value in the squad is and what you're losing.
"Johan has given us three years service and we paid what we paid and that shouldn't be put on Johan's head.
"He's moving on, we've probably not had the best out of him that we wanted, but there are other players that have done better than we have expected.
"You bring Stuart Holden in who we didn't pay a transfer fee for and we've had plenty out of him so you've got to put it in a balance."
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Re: Gartside Interview

Post by jaffka » Fri May 27, 2011 8:35 pm

Sensible words and shows again why we have such an excellent chairman.

We are very lucky at BWFC, a season of what could have been in OC's first full season in charge...bring on next season.

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