Today I'm angry about.....

[Lofthouse Lower]

I couldn't care less about the meanings or the location or anything like that

It's a nice day out for the relatives, a good party afterwards and a nice thing to remember.

Vicar seems happy to accept our bribes to get the one we want on the day we want, so hey, all is well

[thebish]

The other issue is about whether christenings are actually biblical or not and i don't believe they are but i think its best to not pull at that string

pull it all you like. if I lived my life by the narrow (and fairly meaningless slogan) "is it biblical" - then I'd be a nutter.

[Gooner Girl]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

[Lord Kangana]

Who has the biggest communion wafers?

[Hoboh]

Actually lopping off some poor kids foreskin for non medical reasons can be far more serious than parents deciding a kid should be baptised/christened/whatever into a particular church. lets have a sense of the grand scheme here, surely the physical aspect is abuse when the kid cannot decide for himself?

[thebish]

Who has the biggest communion wafers?

I think GG has already displayed her wafers for the lads...

[thebish]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

not in the way you do them they aren't...

[Lofthouse Lower]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

you're a glutton for punishment bandying words with that witless worm

[Hoboh]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

you're a glutton for punishment bandying words with that witless worm

Touch unfair there Lofty!!! some think bish is a snake

[Gooner Girl]

Actually lopping off some poor kids foreskin for non medical reasons can be far more serious than parents deciding a kid should be baptised/christened/whatever into a particular church. lets have a sense of the grand scheme here, surely the physical aspect is abuse when the kid cannot decide for himself?

Agreed. that happens a lot in America doesn't it? Obviously i'm not male but i should imagine - ouch?!

[Gooner Girl]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

not in the way you do them they aren't...

How do you know?! You've never been to my church.

[Gooner Girl]

Who has the biggest communion wafers?

I think GG has already displayed her wafers for the lads...

Wafers?! Charming! I think i liked 'bongos' better.

[Gooner Girl]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

you're a glutton for punishment bandying words with that witless worm

Touch unfair there Lofty!!! some think bish is a snake

he's not a worm or a snake, he's quite lovely underneath it all i promise! But i agree, bandying words with thebish is probably pointless. He's the most stubborn man i have ever met.

[Wandering Willy]

This would be best settled by a 1500m race at a mutually agreed venue.

The Bish vs Double G - I know who my money's on.

[Lofthouse Lower]

stubborn is a nice word for it

sure many could think up worse

[Gooner Girl]

This would be best settled by a 1500m race at a mutually agreed venue.

The Bish vs Double G - I know who my money's on.

I'm game! (Double G?!)

[Lofthouse Lower]

your wafers, dear

[bobo the clown]

Who has the biggest communion wafers?

I think GG has already displayed her wafers for the lads...

Wafers?! Charming! I think i liked 'bongos' better.

Everone to their own, GG.

I think you'll find the majority said "baps" anyway.

[thebish]

I agree, not everything in the bible should be take literally but given the ideas of dedication and BELIEVERS baptism are in the bible why do you need an alternative that isn't?

not in the way you do them they aren't...

How do you know?! You've never been to my church.

fair enough - but I have seen the photos...

here's the new testament biblical model..

the man is the head of the household - if he decides to convert to christianity, then he will and all his household with them (whether they like it or not - that's irrelevant because their view doesn't count.) He and his wife and his children and babies were then all baptised - some say also his servants. The ceremony was conducted by a man - it would have been unthinkable for a woman to do it.

if your dedication ceremony was anything like that - then do enlighten me... (not that infant dedication appears anywhere in the bible in its own right.)

(you have posted photos - and it looks suspiciously like a woman conducted the ceremony - which isn't "biblical" - and IIRC - you said MrGG wasn't bothered either way and it was your choice. neither do I see any water being used - and I don't believe there is any "biblical" ceremony that doesn't include water symbolism...)

given the "biblical" model described above - I am very happy indeed to operate in a 21st century way and not lose that much sleep over whether something fits into a neat box called "biblical" or not.

[CrazyHorse]

And to think I used to really like this thread too.