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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:42 pm

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drummergeek wrote:would you bet 14m that gary cahill won't leave on a free?
He'll not leave for free. More likely is we'll accept a silly offer on the final day of the transfer window.

So yeah, I'll take that bet. :)
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by drummergeek » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:46 pm

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drummergeek wrote:if we are giving him a new contract there is no point putting a 12m release clause in.

Course there is. Why would he sign a contract that makes it harder for him to leave Bolton than it already is?

He is more than likely going to walk away on a free to the club of his choice with a couple of million cash in hand, only way he'd sign a contract would be out of pure loyalty to us for getting him to where he is now and he feels he owes us a payday- there is no other logical reason he'd sign a deal. He's made no bones about the fact he wants to play for a top club- although he has done it in a respectful way.

Clubs are put off by our 17m pricetag. If we're saying to Cahill, here's a big wage increase and look we'll stick this release fee in so it's easier for you to get out to a big club then he might (still doubt it) but might agree to it.

If we're offering him a new contract with the same 17m release fee or no release fee then he's fecked up any ambitions of playing at the top level because we're not going to get there and clubs aren't going to pay that sort of money for him.

clubs don't want to pay 17m because he has 1 year left if he had longer on his contract they would pay it. look at how much english players have gone for.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:51 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
drummergeek wrote:would you bet 14m that gary cahill won't leave on a free?
He'll not leave for free. More likely is we'll accept a silly offer on the final day of the transfer window.

So yeah, I'll take that bet. :)
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:04 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
drummergeek wrote:would you bet 14m that gary cahill won't leave on a free?
He'll not leave for free. More likely is we'll accept a silly offer on the final day of the transfer window.

So yeah, I'll take that bet. :)
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:08 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
drummergeek wrote:would you bet 14m that gary cahill won't leave on a free?
He'll not leave for free. More likely is we'll accept a silly offer on the final day of the transfer window.

So yeah, I'll take that bet. :)
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Normally I would but the wire transfer system to Lagos is not working today.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:22 pm

drummergeek wrote:would you bet 14m that gary cahill won't leave on a free?
I bet you £17m he won't leave on a free.

This way, you take the bet, I buy Cahill for Arsenal for £17m, you then owe me £17 million, and we have got our price for GC, all at your expense. Mwahahahahahahahahah.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by jimbo_bwfc » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:37 pm

drummergeek wrote:
jimbo_bwfc wrote:
drummergeek wrote:if we are giving him a new contract there is no point putting a 12m release clause in.

Course there is. Why would he sign a contract that makes it harder for him to leave Bolton than it already is?

He is more than likely going to walk away on a free to the club of his choice with a couple of million cash in hand, only way he'd sign a contract would be out of pure loyalty to us for getting him to where he is now and he feels he owes us a payday- there is no other logical reason he'd sign a deal. He's made no bones about the fact he wants to play for a top club- although he has done it in a respectful way.

Clubs are put off by our 17m pricetag. If we're saying to Cahill, here's a big wage increase and look we'll stick this release fee in so it's easier for you to get out to a big club then he might (still doubt it) but might agree to it.

If we're offering him a new contract with the same 17m release fee or no release fee then he's fecked up any ambitions of playing at the top level because we're not going to get there and clubs aren't going to pay that sort of money for him.

clubs don't want to pay 17m because he has 1 year left if he had longer on his contract they would pay it. look at how much english players have gone for.
Perhaps, although I'm not totally convinced they'd pay it either way. Lescott is an anomoly because of City, but why would any of the other clubs pay that much for a 25-year old whose biggest achievements so far are with a team who've never finished in the top ten whilst he's been there?

Perhaps we're just guilty of overpricing him. Phil Jones went for 17M because he's 19 and already there or thereabouts the level of Cahill.

I'm sure Wenger's looking at it and saying, well I can get someone like Juan Mata for 17M why would I pay that for Cahill, whether he has one year left or five years?

Although the original point still stands up, we're not offering him a new contract so we can get big money, we're offering him a new contract so he doesn't leave for free. To do that we're going to have to give him something very special and heavily weighted in his favour, because there isn't much incentive for him to re-sign at the moment with some of the clubs that are tracking him.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:17 pm

Neil Ashton, ex-NoW, was saying on t'radio tonight that GC had a good season but the semi-final, his performance in particular, would have put people off.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:29 pm

Did he get that from hacking Wenger's phone?
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by a1 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:20 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:Neil Ashton, ex-NoW, was saying on t'radio tonight that GC had a good season but the semi-final, his performance in particular, would have put people off.
so if we've been knocked out in the third round, we'd be getting big money ?

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Post by jimbo_bwfc » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:52 pm

Can't work out why Wenger is willing to pay more for Jagielka than it'd take to get Cahill.

Jagielka is a good player don't get me wrong but he's 29 in August, has had a career blighted by injuries, no-more proven at the 'top stage' of football than Cahill. Hardly an outstanding player, good player, but not outstanding. I'm not saying Cahill is any better mind, but he is younger, cheaper and can probably go abit further in the game.

Seems an odd one.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:01 am

jimbo_bwfc wrote:Can't work out why Wenger is willing to pay more for Jagielka than it'd take to get Cahill.

Jagielka is a good player don't get me wrong but he's 29 in August, has had a career blighted by injuries, no-more proven at the 'top stage' of football than Cahill. Hardly an outstanding player, good player, but not outstanding. I'm not saying Cahill is any better mind, but he is younger, cheaper and can probably go abit further in the game.

Seems an odd one.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:56 am

jimbo_bwfc wrote:Can't work out why Wenger is willing to pay more for Jagielka than it'd take to get Cahill.

Jagielka is a good player don't get me wrong but he's 29 in August, has had a career blighted by injuries, no-more proven at the 'top stage' of football than Cahill. Hardly an outstanding player, good player, but not outstanding. I'm not saying Cahill is any better mind, but he is younger, cheaper and can probably go abit further in the game.

Seems an odd one.
Easy answer "Our Gaz" looks far better to us than maybe he actually is due the the rest of the dross that plays in our so called defence, blind pensioners on a beach with a bell less ball fall into that catagory as well. If we could do a deal for 10 mill + Ngog we 'd do very well out of it.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Tombwfc » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:46 pm

Hoboh wrote:
jimbo_bwfc wrote:Can't work out why Wenger is willing to pay more for Jagielka than it'd take to get Cahill.

Jagielka is a good player don't get me wrong but he's 29 in August, has had a career blighted by injuries, no-more proven at the 'top stage' of football than Cahill. Hardly an outstanding player, good player, but not outstanding. I'm not saying Cahill is any better mind, but he is younger, cheaper and can probably go abit further in the game.

Seems an odd one.
Easy answer "Our Gaz" looks far better to us than maybe he actually is due the the rest of the dross that plays in our so called defence, blind pensioners on a beach with a bell less ball fall into that catagory as well. If we could do a deal for 10 mill + Ngog we 'd do very well out of it.
Alternatively according to some on here we have a past-it 'keeper, the world's worst ever right-back, a pub-standard clogger and a lanky dopey nice person.

If we're able to stay up with that 'shite', Cahill must be a miracle worker.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:06 pm

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Hoboh wrote:
jimbo_bwfc wrote:Can't work out why Wenger is willing to pay more for Jagielka than it'd take to get Cahill.

Jagielka is a good player don't get me wrong but he's 29 in August, has had a career blighted by injuries, no-more proven at the 'top stage' of football than Cahill. Hardly an outstanding player, good player, but not outstanding. I'm not saying Cahill is any better mind, but he is younger, cheaper and can probably go abit further in the game.

Seems an odd one.
Easy answer "Our Gaz" looks far better to us than maybe he actually is due the the rest of the dross that plays in our so called defence, blind pensioners on a beach with a bell less ball fall into that catagory as well. If we could do a deal for 10 mill + Ngog we 'd do very well out of it.
Alternatively according to some on here we have a past-it 'keeper, the world's worst ever right-back, a pub-standard clogger and a lanky dopey tw*t.

If we're able to stay up with that 'shite', Cahill must be a miracle worker.

Not getting into a lip lock but Cahill would have waltzed into a top 4 team according to some on here................................ and feck me our defence WAS REALLY that good with the relegation form shown at the latter end of the season our Gazzer included :conf:

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Post by jimbo_bwfc » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:26 pm

Liverpool are the latest club in the mix.

Apparently Daily Mail going big on the story, their backpage. Story from Dom King, former Liverpool Echo writer, whether that means he has his ear any closer to the wall I've no idea, but I certainly hope someone comes in and bids for him.

Liverpool might be ideal if they throw N'Gog into the deal, saves us having to fork out money for a striker. Wouldn't mind getting Danny Wilson in on the act too, on loan.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Lennon'sEleven » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:07 am

jimbo_bwfc wrote:Liverpool are the latest club in the mix.

Apparently Daily Mail going big on the story, their backpage. Story from Dom King, former Liverpool Echo writer, whether that means he has his ear any closer to the wall I've no idea, but I certainly hope someone comes in and bids for him.

Liverpool might be ideal if they throw N'Gog into the deal, saves us having to fork out money for a striker. Wouldn't mind getting Danny Wilson in on the act too, on loan.
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None of the quotes say anything concrete about GC... but they did seem to be after Jones before he went to Man U, and they have been shipping goals. Plus, like you say, there's the little matter f N'Gog. May have legs this one, I guess.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:12 am

Liverpool seems the most likely/only destination at the moment. Fits their MO. Problem is replacement, because, and I don't think this has been mentioned enough, Knight and Wheater is TERRIFYING. Domed.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:13 am

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:17 am

That seems like a nothing story. No substance about making a concrete bid or owt. Seems more like a journo just saying we must buy a centre half, oh look Gary Cahill might fit the bill. As Pru says IF we do sell Cahill, then Coyle best have a replacement in mind and have done enough of the spadework to be able to move quickly. Though I suspect he has....

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