What are you reading tonight?

[Worthy4England]

Surely it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that being an athiest could be a contributory factor to not wanting to read a book regarding the Holy Grail?

it's possible - but I certainly don't think it is the "given" that you seem to think it is. I see no reason for assuming Fry's atheism is a contributory factor in disliking the DaVinci code at all.

can you not enjoy a book about something that you don't believe in?

Yes you can enjoy a book about something that you don't believe in. But not usually when you've said fairly explicitly that you "loathe" the particular subject matter...

You continue to assume that his athiesm isn't a contributory factor. I'll sit here quite happily in my belief that I think it probably is.

he described his hatred of grail-tosh to be the reason - he loathes grail-tosh - but I see no reason to equate that with his atheism. plenty of non-atheists don't like grail-tosh.

Not sure we got any further here. He loathes, from your quote, Holy Grail and Catholic conspiracies. You can't concieve of any way in which that could be connected to him being an athiest, I can concieve that the two could be connected.

I could be wrong, so could you.

C'est la vie.

[thebish]

Not sure we got any further here. He loathes, from your quote, Holy Grail and Catholic conspiracies. You can't concieve of any way in which that could be connected to him being an athiest, I can concieve that the two could be connected.

I could be wrong, so could you.

C'est la vie.

I don't believe I said i cannot conceive any way there could be a connection - indeed, I started my last post by writing "it's possible".

(to coin a phrase - I'm starting to think you don't read stuff properly!)

I simply see no reason to introduce atheism as a reason for his loathing - when Fry, himself, hasn't.

[Worthy4England]

Not sure we got any further here. He loathes, from your quote, Holy Grail and Catholic conspiracies. You can't concieve of any way in which that could be connected to him being an athiest, I can concieve that the two could be connected.

I could be wrong, so could you.

C'est la vie.

I don't believe I said i cannot conceive any way there could be a connection - indeed, I started my last post by writing "it's possible".

(to coin a phrase - I'm starting to think you don't read stuff properly!)

I simply see no reason to introduce atheism as a reason for his loathing - when Fry, himself, hasn't.

Can we put this to bed? You see no reason for me to connect the two. I'm happy with the connection I've made.

[thebish]

Not sure we got any further here. He loathes, from your quote, Holy Grail and Catholic conspiracies. You can't concieve of any way in which that could be connected to him being an athiest, I can concieve that the two could be connected.

I could be wrong, so could you.

C'est la vie.

I don't believe I said i cannot conceive any way there could be a connection - indeed, I started my last post by writing "it's possible".

(to coin a phrase - I'm starting to think you don't read stuff properly!)

I simply see no reason to introduce atheism as a reason for his loathing - when Fry, himself, hasn't.

Can we put this to bed? You see no reason for me to connect the two. I'm happy with the connection I've made.

of course we can - I was simply correcting your misinterpretation of my words.

[Worthy4England]

Not sure we got any further here. He loathes, from your quote, Holy Grail and Catholic conspiracies. You can't concieve of any way in which that could be connected to him being an athiest, I can concieve that the two could be connected.

I could be wrong, so could you.

C'est la vie.

I don't believe I said i cannot conceive any way there could be a connection - indeed, I started my last post by writing "it's possible".

(to coin a phrase - I'm starting to think you don't read stuff properly!)

I simply see no reason to introduce atheism as a reason for his loathing - when Fry, himself, hasn't.

Can we put this to bed? You see no reason for me to connect the two. I'm happy with the connection I've made.

of course we can - I was simply correcting your misinterpretation of my words.

That's sweet. Maybe you could be more specific in the first place, next time, to save us all the trouble.

[thebish]

That's sweet. Maybe you could be more specific in the first place, next time, to save us all the trouble.

[Worthy4England]

It's not that black and white

[thebish]

It's not that black and white

there's a secret masonic code hidden in the duvet pattern - you'll like that!

[Prufrock]

It's actually in the Rose Linen

[thebish]

It's actually in the Rose Linen

Rose Linen... hmmm - posh words for a pink dressing gown?

[Gary the Enfield]

It's actually in the Rose Linen

Rose Linen... hmmm - posh words for a pink dressing gown?

You wouldn't let it lie!!!!!!

[William the White]

Today I took delivery of the six novels of the current Booker Prize shortlist (£25) and the six of the Orange Prize shortlist (£19). From those excellent folk at The Book People. Bargain, I reckon.

My wife just laughed incredulously... There are still 34 unread novels and two poetry collections on the shelf of shame, that has diminished by only eight this year so far. Now up to 48.

Incorrigible.

[Dujon]

Inflation, WtW, it's a curse isn't it.

When it comes to the cost of books here it's often said that readers are being significantly overcharged by many businesses. Given that it's only a list of six I decided to have a look at one of our local (major) retailers to check out the prices and aggregate cost of the Booker short list. I have taken the cheapest option for each title - there is only one hard back in my pricing list.

The Books

Julian Barnes The Sense of an Ending (Jonathan Cape - Random House)

Carol Birch Jamrach’s Menagerie (Canongate Books)

Patrick deWitt The Sisters Brothers (Granta)

Esi Edugyan Half Blood Blues (Serpent’s Tail)

Stephen Kelman Pigeon English (Bloomsbury)

A.D. Miller Snowdrops (Atlantic)

Prices (in the same order)

21.95 (HB)
15.95 (PB)
23.95 (PB)
19.95 (PB)
29.95 (PB)
15.95 (PB)

In AUD that's 127.70. Using an exchange rate of 0.62 that equates to ~ GBP 79.00 - and that's ignoring freight costs! That's triple your recent purchases. No wonder book shops in this country are declining at a rapid rate.

My price quotations are courtesy of http://www.angusrobertson.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Worthy4England]

Aye but in Oz, having a book is like being at the bleeding edge of computer technology. I wasn't aware that the natives could actually read. As an ex-pat with 6 books, you could probably open a school.

[Dujon]

A 'school'? What's that then?

[P.O.S.]

About to smash back into the "techno-thriller" genre that Ive left alone for years; "Red Storm Rising", "Red Phoenix" and "The Kill Box" all in the post.

Im sure Ive read "Red Phoenix" before, about a second Korean War breaking out, but no matter Im sure it was good, not read the others though! Bit of espionage, bit of politics, a lot of action... looking forward to it.

[Lofthouse Lower]

Back from hols and read

Abraham Lincoln : Vampire Hunter
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

Both ace but no doubt likely to be dismissed by snobbish wankers.

[Annoyed Grunt]

Back from hols and read
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

Sounds shite.....but equally interesting.

[Verbal]

Just read this online. I hate scary things, and being scared, so why i ventured to the end of this is beyond me

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[Prufrock]

nice person.