The Politics Thread

[Lord Kangana]

I don't think two gay cousins really need to worry too much about their progeny.

[Hoboh]

What happened to the politics thread?

I don't understand why low-to-medium paid people vote Tory, but many of them must do it, especially in the south-east.

There's nothing short of electricity on the bollocks that would make me vote Tory... but I look at, listen to, think of Ed Milliband and wonder about a party that can be stupid enough to elect him as leader... Actually, wonder about the trade union leadership that shouldered him in... piss up, brewery, party comes to mind... Labour's Ian Duncan Smith... lamentable and everyone knows it, but you're stuck with the error, so bad he makes lightweights like Cameron (surely the least convincing Tory PM since John Major) look credible...

Puppet and Paymasters springs to mind William.

BTW I am far removed from being a "Tory" voter as a matter of course but after watching the crass stupidity of the last lot and the way the far left (commies in disguise) manipulate the manifesto and direction of Labour policy I find it not appealing to vote Labour. I know it's peoples apathy that allows the formulation and growth of these minority groups but the sheer size and clout they wield is frightening. Who really honestly thinks that my pet hate Harriet and her policies would be were they are but for this? Ever been to a union branch meeting were one man, his dog and the caretaker have been all thats needed to vote through backing for a very active vocal Labour candidate or for support to get votes for cabinet (or shadow) posts? Or been at one of the local Labour club meetings with descions virtually endorsed but for the window dressing? I have in the past and can only liken it to the way Sadam and others operated without the guns!
Nice learning curve for a wannabe planet leader

[Worthy4England]

What happened to the politics thread?

I don't understand why low-to-medium paid people vote Tory, but many of them must do it, especially in the south-east.

There's nothing short of electricity on the bollocks that would make me vote Tory... but I look at, listen to, think of Ed Milliband and wonder about a party that can be stupid enough to elect him as leader... Actually, wonder about the trade union leadership that shouldered him in... piss up, brewery, party comes to mind... Labour's Ian Duncan Smith... lamentable and everyone knows it, but you're stuck with the error, so bad he makes lightweights like Cameron (surely the least convincing Tory PM since John Major) look credible...

Puppet and Paymasters springs to mind William.

BTW I am far removed from being a "Tory" voter as a matter of course but after watching the crass stupidity of the last lot and the way the far left (commies in disguise) manipulate the manifesto and direction of Labour policy I find it not appealing to vote Labour. I know it's peoples apathy that allows the formulation and growth of these minority groups but the sheer size and clout they wield is frightening. Who really honestly thinks that my pet hate Harriet and her policies would be were they are but for this? Ever been to a union branch meeting were one man, his dog and the caretaker have been all thats needed to vote through backing for a very active vocal Labour candidate or for support to get votes for cabinet (or shadow) posts? Or been at one of the local Labour club meetings with descions virtually endorsed but for the window dressing? I have in the past and can only liken it to the way Sadam and others operated without the guns!
Nice learning curve for a wannabe planet leader

And this differs from Tory circles how approximately?

The unions are controlled in what they do by Tory legislation.

Just remind me, because I'm getting old, what legislation controls the interests that Liam Fox's mate is representing? Who's interests precisely are they? These shady folk that pay him retainers? What broad cross section of our society are they representing?

What? No idea? And not controlled by any legislation?

How bizarre - more out of control that Labour, I'd say.

[ratbert]

Fox has quit:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15300751" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apparently he resigned a week ago, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin to pass on...

[thebish]

Apparently he resigned a week ago, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin to pass on...

[Worthy4England]

Apparently he resigned a week ago, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin to pass on...

Fox gone. Binman next? PULL!!!!

[thebish]

Apparently he resigned a week ago, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin to pass on...

Fox gone. Binman next? PULL!!!!

how crassly stupid is it to stuff your constituents' letters in a park bin?????

[Worthy4England]

Apparently he resigned a week ago, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin to pass on...

Fox gone. Binman next? PULL!!!!

how crassly stupid is it to stuff your constituents' letters in a park bin?????

Probably on about a par with calling constituents bigoted women...

[William the White]

Apparently he resigned a week ago, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin to pass on...

Fox gone. Binman next? PULL!!!!

how crassly stupid is it to stuff your constituents' letters in a park bin?????

Probably on about a par with calling constituents bigoted women...

You know, Worthy, about how you very occasionally get a tad pedantic about other people's posts? I'm resisting, because it's Friday, the temptation to say she wasn't Gordon's constituent, and she wasn't plural. Ooops slipped out...

[Worthy4England]

Given it's Friday, I won't mention then, that I didn't suggest she was Gordon's constituent, I suggested that binning constituents letters was on about the same par as the act of calling constituents bigoted women. As ever IMHO.

Enjoy your sardines.

Oh happy to acknowledge I should fall foul of the apostrophe police

[thebish]

I'll wager it is more crassly stupid to stuff constituents letters in a park bin in full view of the public in broad daylight.

if one was to compare it to (say) Gordon Brown's comments about a constituent - then a closer comparison would have been for him to stuff them in an office bin where he was confident he might not have been seen.

had Brown displayed the same level of crass stupidity he'd have made the comments into a live public mic on stage before waiting to get into the car and (with some justification) thinking he could now make the comments safely.

[thebish]

Liam Fox has resigned in order to spend more time with his adviser...

[William the White]

Liam Fox has resigned in order to spend more time with his adviser...

[bobo the clown]

Liam Fox has resigned in order to spend more time with his adviser...

he apparently wrote his resignation last week, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin & it went missing.



OK, I'm off this thread now.

[William the White]

Liam Fox has resigned in order to spend more time with his adviser...

he apparently wrote his resignation last week, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin & it went missing.



OK, I'm off this thread now.

Do stay...

[thebish]

Liam Fox has resigned in order to spend more time with his adviser...

he apparently wrote his resignation last week, but gave the letter to Oliver Letwin & it went missing.



OK, I'm off this thread now.

I've heard that before!!!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Charlie Brooker... generally quite like him but sometimes I just don't get it...

http://gu.com/p/32jjp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BWFC_Insane]

Charlie Brooker... generally quite like him but sometimes I just don't get it...

http://gu.com/p/32jjp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's really quite simple, and not complex at all.

Just an article explaining that David Cameron is in actual fact a lizard! Can't see any confusion there!

[Bruce Rioja]

Charlie Brooker... generally quite like him but sometimes I just don't get it...

http://gu.com/p/32jjp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's really quite simple, and not complex at all.

Just an article explaining that David Cameron is in actual fact a lizard! Can't see any confusion there!

[thebish]