Today I'm angry about.....

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by bobo the clown » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:43 pm

Terrible Clapton. Especially for the 3 children. It makes friends & family so frustrated as, as you say, people would help ... but by that stage the person often feels they can't inflict themselves upon others.

There is rarely a way to rationalise it.

Truly my sympathy.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by thebish » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:49 pm

clapton is god wrote:A good friend and former colleague of mine hanged himself this morning. I am absolutely gutted, never been so gutted for many years. I am also angry about it, yes. He had three young children and many friends all of whom would have helped in the blink of an eye if only he had told one of us he was hurting. He didn't. He kept whatever it was to himself.
the anger is normal - as is the guilt that anyone feels when someone they know commits suicide... be gentle with yourself wherever your emotions take you in the coming weeks...

we currently have two people who's relatives committed suicide in our bereavement support group (one their mother - and the other their 22yr old son) it compounds grief and messes up so many lives... there are questions that you will never be able to answer - sometimes there is no sense to it all - don't tear yourself apart trying...

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Dujon » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:01 am

My condolences, cig. I've lost a number of friends and family over the years and it's never easy. All of them were, though, of 'natural' causes. Some were far too young. I have no doubt that you will now resort to some sort of soul searching and attempt to analyse why you and his other friends didn't pick up on his state of mind. Try not to. As thebish says, there are questions that are unanswerable. Grieve by all means, that's only natural, but trying to place blame on yourself or anyone else is a fruitless exercise. Remember him as you knew him and not as he died.

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Post by clapton is god » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:03 am

Much obliged for the thoughts, fellas, all appreciated. I've lost many friends over the years and I suppose I average three of four funerals a year - only natural when the years pile up behind you. This one very different though as he was only a young man and it really broke me up yesterday. The gut wrenching thing is the kids. How could you ever get tired of looking at their smiles? My own dad died when I was ten and I've missed him every day since. He has now subjected these kids to the same fate. And anger for his mum who found him! And I'm fcuking angry with the company too! They have expert medical staff and supervisors who are supposed to be man managers, or they were when I was there. I don't blame myself, Dujon, that's not a big part of the equation. I hadn't worked with him for several years and wasn't in daily contact but I still saw him regularly. No sense in it at all. Anyway, apologies for even mentioning it here and thanks again for your thoughts.

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:44 am

Nothing to apologise for mate. Sorry to hear this.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:50 pm

Clapton. My nephew died during an epilepsy attack whilst working in France. He was just 28. I've always been really close to my brother, lifetime mates, but it almost killed him. He felt he'd nothing left to live for and was very low for a considerable time. Time heals eventually and he recovered, but it was a terrible period. Grief's always about the ones left behind and I hope his family manage to see it through. Their sun will shine again in the future as will your own.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Gary the Enfield » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:48 pm

C.I.G.

I'm sorry for your loss. There's nothing worse for a parent than to bury their child. Your friend's parents have a difficult few days ahead.

Having said that my particular sympathy is with the wife and young kids.

Just let them know you're there for when they need you. And don't apologise for venting on here.

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Verbal » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:36 pm

cam home to find someone had covered the door locks in mars bar. spent about quarter of an hour fishing it out.

I just want to hit someone now.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:37 pm

WD40 next time.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Wandering Willy » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:07 pm

Melt out out with a blowtorch.

I same people that caused trouble last time, or was that someone else that was having problems?
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Verbal » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:28 pm

dunno, no proof of any of it to link to someone...all we can do is keep telling the council and keep presenting the evidence...think it's time to invest in some kind of video camera because its gone past being a joke.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Wandering Willy » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:45 pm

This video camera should do it. :mrgreen:


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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:49 pm

Wire all the metal bits on the door up to the mains.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by thebish » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:57 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Wire all the metal bits on the door up to the mains.
nice idea - but, how would Verbal get in? 8)

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:02 am

Faraday's cage. Just wear chain mail to work. Easy peasy.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:09 am

Verbal wrote:cam home to find someone had covered the door locks in mars bar. spent about quarter of an hour fishing it out.

I just want to hit someone now.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Gary the Enfield » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:06 am

Verbal wrote:cam home to find someone had covered the door locks in mars bar. spent about quarter of an hour fishing it out.

I just want to hit someone now.

You should have stuck a peanut in there, it would have come out a treat!

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:07 am

Snicker.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:17 pm

Verbal wrote:cam home to find someone had covered the door locks in mars bar. spent about quarter of an hour fishing it out.

I just want to hit someone now.
It's funny because it isn't me......but what have you done to anger someone that much that they keep doing stuff like that?

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by boltonboris » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:21 pm

In fairness, they sound pretty funny... I'm gonna try that Mars bar trick
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