Coyle - Time to go? [post-Everton]

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Should he stay or should he go?

He should be given more time (indefinite)
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He should be given until Christmas
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He should be given a couple more games
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He should be sacked immediately
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Re: Coyle - Time to go? [post-Everton]

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:22 pm

Come the January transfer window we could be all but down.

I don't know the answer but I wonder what the lowest points total a club has had at Christmas is and still survived?

I'm thinking around the 14-15 point mark??? No guarantees we'll be anywhere near there come Christmas....

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:29 pm

Whookam wrote:
dasher wrote: he hasn't managed to unearth another Wilshire / Sturridge yet,
Unearth? They were already well know as exception talents. As has also been noted we only went for Sturridge after Vela decided to go to West Brom.
Indeed. I wouldn't expect him to unearth another Wilshere/Sturrige like talent, although would be delighted if he did.

The point is, if such a talent was integral to us staying up, maybe he should have put all his eggs in one particular basket and spent heavily on one or maybe two players in those positions.

We were on 30 points before Sturridge kicked a ball and in the event needed 39 + better GD to stay up from 14 games (so 9/10 points). Would we have stayed up without him? I'd like to think so.

Bit more difficult with Wilshere as unlike Sturridge he doesn't put the ball in the net every 5 minutes. We had 22 points from 23 games when he started playing for us in the event, 30 points would have kept us up (so call it 31 for cash) similar to Sturridge's time here 9 points from 16 games. Would we have got them without him, again I'd like to think we would, with games against Wolves, Wigan, West Ham and Portsmouth in that run.

Both great players to have in the team and great players to watch, but we really shouldn't be making forward plans on loanee's that we have no long term commitment with.

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Re: Coyle - Time to go? [post-Everton]

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:33 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Come the January transfer window we could be all but down.

I don't know the answer but I wonder what the lowest points total a club has had at Christmas is and still survived?

I'm thinking around the 14-15 point mark??? No guarantees we'll be anywhere near there come Christmas....
I think Wigan with 13 in 2007.

But there's plenty of seasons where teams have had more than that on the 24th Dec and not made it.

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Post by Jokers in White » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:38 pm

January is a month to forget we are not going to win any of them games, so the pressure really is on this month to pick up has many points has possible. I think the villa game will be coyle's biggest of his management career.
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Post by Salford Trotter » Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:46 am

Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
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Post by William the White » Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:04 pm

Salford Trotter wrote:Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
Good news.

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Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:49 pm

William the White wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
Good news.
For who exactly....?

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:21 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
William the White wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
Good news.
For who exactly....?
For all those who'd like to see him turn it around and be the sort of Bolton manager he can be I'd imagine. Unless you'd rather see him leave as another Bolton manager who failed?
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:06 pm

William the White wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
Good news.
Garty said the same to a mate.

Suppose ultimately it's Eddie Davies's call though
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Post by One Hump Or Two? » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:57 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
William the White wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
Good news.
For who exactly....?
For all those who'd like to see him turn it around and be the sort of Bolton manager he can be I'd imagine. Unless you'd rather see him leave as another Bolton manager who failed?
So long as you are still this sanguine when we get relegated with 14 points.

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Re: Coyle - Time to go? [post-Everton]

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:19 pm

One Hump Or Two? wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
William the White wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:Just been chatting to Brett Warburton and according to him OC is definitely staying!
Good news.
For who exactly....?
For all those who'd like to see him turn it around and be the sort of Bolton manager he can be I'd imagine. Unless you'd rather see him leave as another Bolton manager who failed?
So long as you are still this sanguine when we get relegated with 14 points.

Where are we going to get another 5 points from ??
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Post by adamworthy2002 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:59 pm

Where are we going to get another 5 points from ??
Wigan at home and two draws with Blackburn.
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Re: Coyle - Time to go? [post-Everton]

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:04 pm

We won't sack Coyle cos that would mean going and getting a proper grown up manager who knows you need to scrap and kick lumps to get safe when you're down the bottom.

Its not happening cos idiots like the fact that Coyle praises our numb braindead fans and they think that means he is well nice in it lolz.

Sick that we are getting relegated without any sort of fight that half the games we as season ticket holders have paid for will be pointless as effectively we will be down by Christmas and sick that despite a list of failings longer than the fooking electoral roll, Coyle gets away with it.

Month after month of failure and despair. Sick to the back teeth of it. The myth we play good football is also just that. We havent played any good football since November 2010.

Can't stand listening to Coyle bang on about how things will turn round yet watch us produce the same shite week after week, make the same mistakes and use the same excuses!

If he had any sort of passion for BWFC he'd do the honourable thing and walk away. But of course he won't cos he just wants the pay cheques. Might as well I guess his careers in tatters now anyhow!

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:11 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:We won't sack Coyle cos that would mean going and getting a proper grown up manager who knows you need to scrap and kick lumps to get safe when you're down the bottom.

Its not happening cos idiots like the fact that Coyle praises our numb braindead fans and they think that means he is well nice in it lolz.

Sick that we are getting relegated without any sort of fight that half the games we as season ticket holders have paid for will be pointless as effectively we will be down by Christmas and sick that despite a list of failings longer than the fooking electoral roll, Coyle gets away with it.

Month after month of failure and despair. Sick to the back teeth of it. The myth we play good football is also just that. We havent played any good football since November 2010.

Can't stand listening to Coyle bang on about how things will turn round yet watch us produce the same shite week after week, make the same mistakes and use the same excuses!

If he had any sort of passion for BWFC he'd do the honourable thing and walk away. But of course he won't cos he just wants the pay cheques. Might as well I guess his careers in tatters now anyhow!


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Post by Jokers in White » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:19 pm

Has long as k.davies is in that team we will never play good football, everytime we get it in defence we go loooooooong to him and it bounces of his head then we lose the ball. Why are the majority of the players never fit huffin and puffin after 20mins its like watching a pub team, got to start working these legs instead of the wrists. Spurs have had 2 games this week yet were still at full pelt in injury time, m. davies was the only one today that looked fit and carried the ball well but was just surrounded by shit. I think steve bruce could get us out of this shit and sort that defence out.
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:24 pm

Jokers in White wrote:Has long as k.davies is in that team we will never play good football, everytime we get it in defence we go loooooooong to him and it bounces of his head then we lose the ball. Why are the majority of the players never fit huffin and puffin after 20mins its like watching a pub team, got to start working these legs instead of the wrists. Spurs have had 2 games this week yet were still at full pelt in injury time, m. davies was the only one today that looked fit and carried the ball well but was just surrounded by shit. I think steve bruce could get us out of this shit and sort that defence out.


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Post by ChrisC » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:27 pm

Jokers in White wrote:Has long as k.davies is in that team we will never play good football, everytime we get it in defence we go loooooooong to him and it bounces of his head then we lose the ball. Why are the majority of the players never fit huffin and puffin after 20mins its like watching a pub team, got to start working these legs instead of the wrists. Spurs have had 2 games this week yet were still at full pelt in injury time, m. davies was the only one today that looked fit and carried the ball well but was just surrounded by shit. I think steve bruce could get us out of this shit and sort that defence out.
The same Bruce that had a worse record than Coyles current run of losses? having also spent ridiculous amounts of money...

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Post by Whookam » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:56 pm

Jokers in White wrote: I think steve bruce could get us out of this shit and sort that defence out.
No chance! Apparently has the same problem as Coyle, he's a motivator who doesn't do tactics.

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:58 pm

Whookam wrote:
Jokers in White wrote: I think steve bruce could get us out of this shit and sort that defence out.
No chance! Apparently has the same problem as Coyle, he's a motivator who doesn't do tactics.

What wiv a face and personality like his

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Post by Whookam » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:58 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
Whookam wrote:
Jokers in White wrote: I think steve bruce could get us out of this shit and sort that defence out.
No chance! Apparently has the same problem as Coyle, he's a motivator who doesn't do tactics.

What wiv a face and personality like that

who ever said that needs shooting
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