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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Prufrock » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:06 pm

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Prufrock wrote:Because he is clearly deemed good enough for a spot on the bench? So losing him would be stupid unless it meant we got somebody better in. Especially if it meant selling to a rival.

Sure, if he was deemed no longer good enough at all, then fair enough, but there is no evidence of that.
Again devils advocate, if Wolves want to pay money for him to sit on their bench and contribute the same he is for us, then shouldn't we let them?
Again, the same answer, not if it isn't the difference for us getting someone better in. Might as well sell our whole bench for a tenner to get the cash.
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by thebish » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:11 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Sure, if he was deemed no longer good enough at all, then fair enough, but there is no evidence of that.

but wouldn't selling him be the kind of evidence you are seeking?

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:22 pm

Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Because he is clearly deemed good enough for a spot on the bench? So losing him would be stupid unless it meant we got somebody better in. Especially if it meant selling to a rival.

Sure, if he was deemed no longer good enough at all, then fair enough, but there is no evidence of that.
Again devils advocate, if Wolves want to pay money for him to sit on their bench and contribute the same he is for us, then shouldn't we let them?
Again, the same answer, not if it isn't the difference for us getting someone better in. Might as well sell our whole bench for a tenner to get the cash.
Aye well obviously depends on an acceptable price...

I'd keep him, but it depends if the rumours of him being an unsettling influence are true or not.

If he's unhappy on the bench and destabilising the dressing room...

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Prufrock » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:42 pm

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Prufrock wrote:
Sure, if he was deemed no longer good enough at all, then fair enough, but there is no evidence of that.

but wouldn't selling him be the kind of evidence you are seeking?
Which we haven't done.

But yes, it would point that way, though it wouldn't be conclusive. My point is if Coyle sells him because he'd rather get some money than nothing, but still thinks he could have an impact from the bench if he stayed, and that the money he would get wouldn't make any difference in improving the team, then he is a fool. If by selling Davies he thinks he can improve the team (or his worth is so little that he wouldn't worsen it at all) then I can see the logic. As he is still on the bench, and has appeared from it several times, it seems he at least values Davies being around. As such it would be daft to sell him, unless any money we could get would be the difference between signing a player who would improve us, and not.
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:01 pm

why would wolves want him when they have doyle?

someone like wigan or qpr where he would offer something they dont have i woukd ger? but wolves? not having that.

He stays for me cos what we woukd get wouldnt buy us much.

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:05 pm

officer_dibble wrote:why would wolves want him when they have doyle?

someone like wigan or qpr where he would offer something they dont have i woukd ger? but wolves? not having that.

He stays for me cos what we woukd get wouldnt buy us much.
Agreed, he may not be much cop but he's ours and you wouldn't want him going to a relegation rival
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by thebish » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:20 pm

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thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Sure, if he was deemed no longer good enough at all, then fair enough, but there is no evidence of that.

but wouldn't selling him be the kind of evidence you are seeking?
Which we haven't done.

But yes, it would point that way, though it wouldn't be conclusive. My point is if Coyle sells him because he'd rather get some money than nothing, but still thinks he could have an impact from the bench if he stayed, and that the money he would get wouldn't make any difference in improving the team, then he is a fool. If by selling Davies he thinks he can improve the team (or his worth is so little that he wouldn't worsen it at all) then I can see the logic. As he is still on the bench, and has appeared from it several times, it seems he at least values Davies being around. As such it would be daft to sell him, unless any money we could get would be the difference between signing a player who would improve us, and not.
or maybe coyle has the balls to drop KD from the starting lineup - but not the balls to drop his captain entirely... the fact he is on the bench does not automatically mean that coyle thinks KD can have a positive impact on the game... having KD on the bench might be an awkward compromise...

we don't know either way - but the idea that coyle still thinks KD can make an appreciable contribution isn't the only possibility...

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by thebish » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:21 pm

officer_dibble wrote:why would wolves want him when they have doyle?

someone like wigan or qpr where he would offer something they dont have i woukd ger? but wolves? not having that.

He stays for me cos what we woukd get wouldnt buy us much.

he's an england player and a club captain - he's worth squillions!!! :wink:

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Prufrock » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:28 pm

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Sure, if he was deemed no longer good enough at all, then fair enough, but there is no evidence of that.

but wouldn't selling him be the kind of evidence you are seeking?
Which we haven't done.

But yes, it would point that way, though it wouldn't be conclusive. My point is if Coyle sells him because he'd rather get some money than nothing, but still thinks he could have an impact from the bench if he stayed, and that the money he would get wouldn't make any difference in improving the team, then he is a fool. If by selling Davies he thinks he can improve the team (or his worth is so little that he wouldn't worsen it at all) then I can see the logic. As he is still on the bench, and has appeared from it several times, it seems he at least values Davies being around. As such it would be daft to sell him, unless any money we could get would be the difference between signing a player who would improve us, and not.
or maybe coyle has the balls to drop KD from the starting lineup - but not the balls to drop his captain entirely... the fact he is on the bench does not automatically mean that coyle thinks KD can have a positive impact on the game... having KD on the bench might be an awkward compromise...

we don't know either way - but the idea that coyle still thinks KD can make an appreciable contribution isn't the only possibility...
With neither or us being Coyle, or course we cannot narrow it down to one possibility, but that is not to say all possibilities are equally likely. Coyle comments about valuing SKD, that he started against Macclesfield (and say, Tuncay, didn't) that he came on against Everton recently suggest he is seen to be having an appreciable contribution, and that certainly seems more likely to me than Coyle having decided over night that a player who has been a mainstay of his side is suddenly not even worthy of a place on the bench, or at the club, but he picks him anyway because he is scared.
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:09 pm

TKIZ! wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:why would wolves want him when they have doyle?

someone like wigan or qpr where he would offer something they dont have i woukd ger? but wolves? not having that.

He stays for me cos what we woukd get wouldnt buy us much.
Agreed, he may not be much cop but he's ours and you wouldn't want him going to a relegation rival
not what i said!
If we were playing wolves and he was up against knight it would be an interesting battle!

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Jakerbeef » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:45 am

Gail Platz wrote:You've got to be fecking joking right? He's contributed jack shit to the team all season (in my opinion he hasn't for the past four years but I won't stray off topic),
Including the season he scored 11 goals then. :D

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by boltonboris » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:53 am

officer_dibble wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:why would wolves want him when they have doyle?

someone like wigan or qpr where he would offer something they dont have i woukd ger? but wolves? not having that.

He stays for me cos what we woukd get wouldnt buy us much.
Agreed, he may not be much cop but he's ours and you wouldn't want him going to a relegation rival
not what i said!
If we were playing wolves and he was up against knight it would be an interesting battle!
It wouldn't be a battle.. It'd be a feckin' mauling!

Knight wouldn't come out for the second half!
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Tombwfc » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:57 pm

boltonboris wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:why would wolves want him when they have doyle?

someone like wigan or qpr where he would offer something they dont have i woukd ger? but wolves? not having that.

He stays for me cos what we woukd get wouldnt buy us much.
Agreed, he may not be much cop but he's ours and you wouldn't want him going to a relegation rival
not what i said!
If we were playing wolves and he was up against knight it would be an interesting battle!
It wouldn't be a battle.. It'd be a feckin' mauling!

Knight wouldn't come out for the second half!
And Kev still wouldn't be able to score.

I don't think he'll go. He'd need replacing, and I think Coyle is still of the opinion that he's just going through a bad run of form, as opposed to being completely finished.

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Relentless09 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:21 pm

Just sold him in FIFA for 5 million and brought in 3 young players, champions league here we come

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:54 pm

Take the money Owen and save his salary, he's shot to bits

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by Athers » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:58 pm

Don't think Emma Davo has been particularly wise on some things she's put on but noticed she admitted as much recently on there.

Just frustration but not difficult for a journo to create more of a story that Mr and Mrs Davies are restless, being treated unfairly, after a move, dressing room unrest etc. etc.
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by boltonboris » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:47 am

She's a right, royal cock-end that bint
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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by thebish » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:54 pm

I've just heard R5 reporting that the BeN has an interview with KD where he says he doesn't know if he has a future at the club - and that his form is not good enough for him to be in the team - and that the transfer window is open... etc...

is this true??

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by thebish » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:57 pm

sky is carrying some quotes...
"I have no idea what my future will be," he told the Bolton Evening News.

"Obviously I am disappointed not to be playing. But my performances haven't been good enough to stay in the team.

"I keep training as hard as I can and when these opportunities come along, try and do my best.

"It's January and there is speculation about all players out of contract. I am no different.

"There has been nothing offered here as yet. I understand the position we are in and there are a few players out of contract.

"In the next few weeks and months I am sure the club will make a decision on those players."

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Re: Kevin Davies

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:14 pm

Sensible words..
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