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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Hoboh » Tue May 01, 2012 4:40 pm

thebish wrote:
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bobo the clown wrote:You couldn't ... sort of .... do it on account, could you Hobes ??
Happy to be of service :mrgreen:

now you've gone and done it!!! :shock:
Keep the faith Rev, no one at the club will jump into the abyss having been thrown a safety line, even Jonah Coyle!

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by thebish » Tue May 01, 2012 4:49 pm

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:You couldn't ... sort of .... do it on account, could you Hobes ??
Happy to be of service :mrgreen:

now you've gone and done it!!! :shock:
Keep the faith Rev, no one at the club will jump into the abyss having been thrown a safety line, even Jonah Coyle!
if we go down - it is officially Hoboh what done it!

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Hoboh » Tue May 01, 2012 5:44 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:You couldn't ... sort of .... do it on account, could you Hobes ??
Happy to be of service :mrgreen:

now you've gone and done it!!! :shock:
Keep the faith Rev, no one at the club will jump into the abyss having been thrown a safety line, even Jonah Coyle!
if we go down - it is officially Hoboh what done it!
Try bobo and William bish :mrgreen:

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by bobo the clown » Tue May 01, 2012 5:58 pm

Well. I can't speak for the Bard, but I'm pretty sure I was referring to the size of the thing.
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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue May 01, 2012 6:07 pm

First hoboh was afraid, he was petrified.
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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Hoboh » Tue May 01, 2012 7:02 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:First hoboh was afraid, he was petrified.
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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 02, 2012 1:35 pm

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Jez wrote:I really dont understand why people think we should let ricketts go

hes a premier league competent player with experience who can play across the whole of the defense and in midfield if really needed, hes pretty much the most useful fit player in the squad (bar maybe NRC)
I don't think anyone has said we should. It's just he's out of contract and whether he'll accept a wage cut and championship football if we go down.

There's a couple I'd keep on, but Ricketts is the one I want to keep most.
Aye, Ricketts would be my first extension negotiation, whether we're up or down. Then possibly Steinsson, although I suspect Coyle sees Mears as the present and Riley as the future (with Ricketts as back-up?). After that we're getting into over-paid also-rans, from those who have served the club brilliantly to those whose time has gone to those who have barely featured.

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by officer_dibble » Wed May 02, 2012 1:45 pm

if mears is the present, why boyota? just askin like...

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Post by mullayo » Wed May 02, 2012 2:18 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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Jez wrote:I really dont understand why people think we should let ricketts go

hes a premier league competent player with experience who can play across the whole of the defense and in midfield if really needed, hes pretty much the most useful fit player in the squad (bar maybe NRC)
I don't think anyone has said we should. It's just he's out of contract and whether he'll accept a wage cut and championship football if we go down.

There's a couple I'd keep on, but Ricketts is the one I want to keep most.
Aye, Ricketts would be my first extension negotiation, whether we're up or down. Then possibly Steinsson, although I suspect Coyle sees Mears as the present and Riley as the future (with Ricketts as back-up?). After that we're getting into over-paid also-rans, from those who have served the club brilliantly to those whose time has gone to those who have barely featured.
Sorry, I forgot Ricketts but we have two I'm assuming cheaper RBs. Keep him on the left as CB cover too.
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GK: Bogdan, Lainton, Lynch
RB: Mears, Riley
CB: Ream, Wheater, Connolly, Blakeman
LB: Ricketts, Alonso
DM: Pratley, NRC
CM: Holden, Mavies, Vela
RW: Eagles, Lee
LW: Wylde
ST: N'Gog, Sordell, Eaves, O'Halloran

We might lose one or two but I think the advantage of Holden and Lee being injured is they may stay for a year till people see how good they hopefully still are. Also, Mavies could do with one more year salting in championship he's not quite there as a top half starter. N'Gog no-one will want and NRC is most likely to move on. Bounce back up with this lot and a couple more Coyle bargains and the transformation will be complete. Drop the average age to 23 or so yet with plenty of prem experience.

Losing all the big wage over 30s: Jussi, Petrov, SKD, Knight, Steinsson, Blake, Sean Davis, Ricardo Gardner, Klasnic

If we stay up I think we should do it anyway. Clear the wage bill at least. Fire the physios and trainers and let Coyle trawl the free transfer market, bargain bin etc. Unfortunately we are in a better position to go down than stay up because we have no saleable assets that we want to sell also am I wrong in thinking the parachute payments would service our debts? I'm beginning to think it may be in the club's best interests to go down and try and do a Newcastle. Clean slate. Come back, younger, stronger, hungrier with more fans because we've had a massively successful season behind us. Of course we could stay down...
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 02, 2012 2:20 pm

officer_dibble wrote:if mears is the present, why boyota? just askin like...
If you mean as a loan signing, DB arrived three weeks after TM's injury. (He also offered more cover along the back in case of Cahill departure, etc. Intriguing to speculate which other City paklyer we might have otherwise borrowed - I'd like to see us borrow John Giudetti next term.)

If you mean why DB rather than TM played at Sunderland – I've no idea, Dibs...

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Whookam » Wed May 02, 2012 3:30 pm

All this talk of keeping Lee and Holden if we go down neglects one small thing:

Both are out of contract in 2013

Even injured they represent our most saleable assets. If we go down we may well have to sell them to fund rebuilding the squad.

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 02, 2012 3:37 pm

Whookam wrote:All this talk of keeping Lee and Holden if we go down neglects one small thing:

Both are out of contract in 2013

Even injured they represent our most saleable assets. If we go down we may well have to sell them to fund rebuilding the squad.
I doubt anyone would buy them. Certainly not for worthwhile money.....

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Whookam » Wed May 02, 2012 3:47 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Whookam wrote:All this talk of keeping Lee and Holden if we go down neglects one small thing:

Both are out of contract in 2013

Even injured they represent our most saleable assets. If we go down we may well have to sell them to fund rebuilding the squad.
I doubt anyone would buy them. Certainly not for worthwhile money.....
Someone would spunk a good few million on Lee, maybe a promoted team or the like.

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 02, 2012 3:52 pm

Whookam wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Whookam wrote:All this talk of keeping Lee and Holden if we go down neglects one small thing:

Both are out of contract in 2013

Even injured they represent our most saleable assets. If we go down we may well have to sell them to fund rebuilding the squad.
I doubt anyone would buy them. Certainly not for worthwhile money.....
Someone would spunk a good few million on Lee, maybe a promoted team or the like.
Doubt that with him getting some games under his belt.
Gartside has said we wouldn't need to sell if we went down as Eddie Davies would help out and we'd already be losing 12 players from the wage bill.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 02, 2012 3:56 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Gartside has said we wouldn't need to sell if we went down as Eddie Davies would help out and we'd already be losing 12 players from the wage bill.
Exactly. Which is a grand chance to rebuild in the necessary fashion, dependent on division.

I just hope OC has a better hit rate than he's shown so far.

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by Whookam » Wed May 02, 2012 3:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Whookam wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Whookam wrote:All this talk of keeping Lee and Holden if we go down neglects one small thing:

Both are out of contract in 2013

Even injured they represent our most saleable assets. If we go down we may well have to sell them to fund rebuilding the squad.
I doubt anyone would buy them. Certainly not for worthwhile money.....
Someone would spunk a good few million on Lee, maybe a promoted team or the like.
Doubt that with him getting some games under his belt.
Gartside has said we wouldn't need to sell if we went down as Eddie Davies would help out and we'd already be losing 12 players from the wage bill.
Losing players from the wage bill doesn't fee up funds for transfer fees!

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by EverSoYouri » Wed May 02, 2012 4:42 pm

officer_dibble wrote:if mears is the present, why boyota? just askin like...

Er...cos Mears copied CYL and got his leg broke? :roll:

I suspect 'present' in this context means 'opening game next season'.

Btw if, with luck, that opening game is a Prem game, we'd better pray that CYL and Holden (and maybe even Muamba) make full recoveries. If not, this season's miseries could just be a taster of what's to come...

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Re: Biggest Week of Our Lives???

Post by officer_dibble » Wed May 02, 2012 5:11 pm

no, barnetto knew what i meant

if mears (and riley) is fit why does coyle shoehorn boyota in at right back? cos mears couldnt tackle a fish supper thats why.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 02, 2012 5:26 pm

officer_dibble wrote:if mears (and riley) is fit why does coyle shoehorn boyota in at right back? cos mears couldnt tackle a fish supper thats why.
Mears is (like Alonso) the type of full-back Coyle seems to have wanted: predominantly attacking, even at the risk of defensive liability. Maybe he's recognised that (particularly in 4-4-2) we need more solidity? If so, polite applause...

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Post by Wandering Willy » Wed May 02, 2012 5:29 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:if mears (and riley) is fit why does coyle shoehorn boyota in at right back? cos mears couldnt tackle a fish supper thats why.
Mears is (like Alonso) the type of full-back Coyle seems to have wanted: predominantly attacking, even at the risk of defensive liability. Maybe he's recognised that (particularly in 4-4-2) we need more solidity? If so, polite applause...
I haven't seen enough of Mears to make such a judgement. Have you?
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