Stu Holden Recovery Show

[BWFC_Insane]

NRC slapped a transfer request in at West Ham as soon as they survived on the last day at OT.........

[boltonboris]

That's because he was aggrieved that all the players were massively overpaid, work-shy prima-donna's with absolutely no self-respect when it came to earning their coin wasn't it?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

NRC slapped a transfer request in at West Ham as soon as they survived on the last day at OT.........

So you're saying he'll submit a request if we stay up?

[BWFC_Insane]

NRC slapped a transfer request in at West Ham as soon as they survived on the last day at OT.........

So you're saying he'll submit a request if we stay up?

No, just that he has "history".

Hopefully he'll be happy to stay whatever happens, but time will tell!

[TANGODANCER]

NRC slapped a transfer request in at West Ham as soon as they survived on the last day at OT.........

It's our last game BWFCi. Surely you must have just "one" post that doesn't depress the fxck out of me. Surely....?

[thebish]

NRC slapped a transfer request in at West Ham as soon as they survived on the last day at OT.........

It's our last game BWFCi. Surely you must have just "one" post that doesn't depress the fxck out of me. Surely....?

not fair Tangster - BWFCi has posted VERY positively in the OUR CLUB thread about yelling himself hoarse at the game - and that we can do it. he'll be there shouting for the team - which is more than you or I will be...

go over and have a look - it's quite inspiring!!

[Jakerbeef]

I can't see Reo-Coker slapping in a transfer request Defoe style. I'd not be surprised if he left, but I think he'd do it a bit more quietly. Seems to 'get' fans. (Isn't that why he and Bellamy fell out?). Holden. I think he cares, but equally I think he is ambitious. When he was on Football Focus he talked about ambitions of Champions League football. He was diplomatic enough to say he hoped it would be with Bolton, but I don't think he'd sacrifice his career for us, and nor should he. Like Cahill, ambitious, but respectful.

Completely forgot about that Defoe incident. Now that was a scummy move. I also remember his play acting in the game against us thinking 'cheat'. Since then he's been coming across a lot better but those WHU days.

That's probably just the WHam way. He's a Boltoner now.

[Tombwfc]

At the end of the day, it's a short career and Holden has already lost large chunks of his due to injury. While he's been out (not because he's been out), it's all gone to shit. Were we to surrender our place in the league on Sunday, I see no reason why he should feel obligated to stay.

[Hoboh]

At the end of the day, it's a short career and Holden has already lost large chunks of his due to injury. While he's been out (not because he's been out), it's all gone to shit. Were we to surrender our place in the league on Sunday, I see no reason why he should feel obligated to stay.

I don't either, nor chungy

[TANGODANCER]

At the end of the day, it's a short career and Holden has already lost large chunks of his due to injury. While he's been out (not because he's been out), it's all gone to shit. Were we to surrender our place in the league on Sunday, I see no reason why he should feel obligated to stay.

Whoa up there Tom. He unfortunately got injured doing what he's (well) paid to do, and then, presumably carried on drawing chunks for doing nothing, while the club get him back fit. Surely there has to be some sense of obligation there? What have the club had for their money? Not like he's a third choice reserve really, is it? He was very much a key player.

[bobo the clown]

There needs to be no 'sense of obligation' Tango. Sorry. Their contract allowed for payment if injured & that's what has happened.

Now, whether they, as people, have that viewpoint is another matter. I suspect you'd have to know them to see how tht pans out. For me I'd like to think they will & will help get us back up, but they are under zero obligation to do so.

Our strongest hand is that they are under contract so a fee would be due and after such an absence clubs will want a long look to see how they recover, mentally and physically.

[Tombwfc]

At the end of the day, it's a short career and Holden has already lost large chunks of his due to injury. While he's been out (not because he's been out), it's all gone to shit. Were we to surrender our place in the league on Sunday, I see no reason why he should feel obligated to stay.

Whoa up there Tom. He unfortunately got injured doing what he's (well) paid to do, and then, presumably carried on drawing chunks for doing nothing, while the club get him back fit. Surely there has to be some sense of obligation there? What have the club had for their money? Not like he's a third choice reserve really, is it? He was very much a key player.

The club helped to get him back to fitness because we were contractually obliged to, and because he's one of our better players. It wasn't charity. If Zat Knight blew his cruciate tomorrow, would anyone be suggesting we give him a new contract and see him back to health?

As fans, we don't expect the club to show loyalty to anyone, unless we think they can benefit the team on the pitch. Why should players show loyalty to the club, unless they think the club can benefit their careers? (I.e playing in the Premier League)

[TANGODANCER]

At the end of the day, it's a short career and Holden has already lost large chunks of his due to injury. While he's been out (not because he's been out), it's all gone to shit. Were we to surrender our place in the league on Sunday, I see no reason why he should feel obligated to stay.

Whoa up there Tom. He unfortunately got injured doing what he's (well) paid to do, and then, presumably carried on drawing chunks for doing nothing, while the club get him back fit. Surely there has to be some sense of obligation there? What have the club had for their money? Not like he's a third choice reserve really, is it? He was very much a key player.

The club helped to get him back to fitness because we were contractually obliged to, and because he's one of our better players. It wasn't charity. If Zat Knight blew his cruciate tomorrow, would anyone be suggesting we give him a new contract and see him back to health?

As fans, we don't expect the club to show loyalty to anyone, unless we think they can benefit the team on the pitch. Why should players show loyalty to the club, unless they think the club can benefit their careers? (I.e playing in the Premier League)

Possibly for the huge amount of money the club puts in their hands every week? Just a thought.

[Tombwfc]

At the end of the day, it's a short career and Holden has already lost large chunks of his due to injury. While he's been out (not because he's been out), it's all gone to shit. Were we to surrender our place in the league on Sunday, I see no reason why he should feel obligated to stay.

Whoa up there Tom. He unfortunately got injured doing what he's (well) paid to do, and then, presumably carried on drawing chunks for doing nothing, while the club get him back fit. Surely there has to be some sense of obligation there? What have the club had for their money? Not like he's a third choice reserve really, is it? He was very much a key player.

The club helped to get him back to fitness because we were contractually obliged to, and because he's one of our better players. It wasn't charity. If Zat Knight blew his cruciate tomorrow, would anyone be suggesting we give him a new contract and see him back to health?

As fans, we don't expect the club to show loyalty to anyone, unless we think they can benefit the team on the pitch. Why should players show loyalty to the club, unless they think the club can benefit their careers? (I.e playing in the Premier League)

Possibly for the huge amount of money the club puts in their hands every week? Just a thought.

Players under contract have no obligation to want to stay, any more than we have the obligation not to want to sell players who are under contract. You can't have it both ways.

[TKIZ!]

Holden's stated that regardless of which division we're playing in he's staying. His father's parents are season ticketholders and they've asked him to stay