Ambitious Blackburn

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:35 am

Salford Trotter wrote:I wonder how BSA's legal action against Keano and Jackburn is proceeding....it's going to be a tough few months for him but that's nothing new
god didnt think of that he i sgoing to get it worse than last year and people think hodgson is under alot of stress
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by newcarsmell » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:33 pm

Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh says Steve Kean will be sacked if he looses 3 consecutive games and Morten Gamst Pedersen is past it !

Oh wait a minute...

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by bwfcdan94 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:55 pm

great news, the gift keeps giving, they are a joke and keano is staying. theres only one keano.........
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:37 pm

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"If, after three games, we have dropped nine points then we'll only have a 50% chance of getting promoted."
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How the feck have these people become successful in business? :conf:
I'm not sure he was successful in business, Bruce. A former Malaysian international he became a tv commentator, with some unsuccessful stints in coaching. How many English equivalents do we know who followed the same pattern?
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:12 am

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
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Nicko58 wrote:
"If, after three games, we have dropped nine points then we'll only have a 50% chance of getting promoted."
:conf:
How the feck have these people become successful in business? :conf:
I'm not sure he was successful in business, Bruce. A former Malaysian international he became a tv commentator, with some unsuccessful stints in coaching. How many English equivalents do we know who followed the same pattern?
Apologies, Monty. I should've been clearer. By "these people" I was referring to the Venkys. I was actually asking as to how on earth they've become so successful in business when they appoint a mumper such as Shebby Singh to the position of Blackburn's Global Advisor?

Happy to clear it up.

BTW - Is there only me that thinks that there must be something far greater going on here? :?
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by boltonboris » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:00 pm

You mean other reasons that Venky's are still holding onto this club, or that Kean is still the manager? Because there's a particularly interesting conspiracy theory doing the rounds on the latter.. That as far fetched as it may seem initially, does raise some qestions as to why the feck is he still there....
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:13 pm

Why is Kean in a job?

Its simple.

Lets say Venky's sack him. Who are they going to appoint?

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by boltonboris » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:23 pm

Anybody.. Literally, anybody!

They could sack Kean and appoint you and their fans would be over the moon
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:34 pm

boltonboris wrote:Anybody.. Literally, anybody!

They could sack Kean and appoint you and their fans would be over the moon
Lets play this out....

Scenario A) They sack Kean and appoint someone decent (which seems highly unlikely as who with any decent record would go there?). They are then forced into either doing what a decent manager wants (which means not pissing around with dodgy agents, not dragging the squad and manager to India when the feel like it, not promising money, setting up a deal then reneging at the last minute etc......) OR risking that manager blaming them publically and have the fans turn on them even more. Remember they are using Blackburn as an advertising mechanism for their chicken based products back home. Venky's out signs don't look good. Basically with a half decent manager, anything that goes wrong will come back on Venky's from the Rovers fans.

Scenario B) Sack Kean and appoint another unknown (or known average/poor manager). Fans abuse switches from Kean to Venky's.

As it stands Kean is there as a buffer. He takes the major hate and the headlines.

He goes, someone else comes in, and suddenly unless its an absolute roaring success immediately, Venky's are directly in the firing line.

Its win win for them now.

If you were in India and knew nothing about football, would you fancy trying to find a new manager under those circumstances?

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by boltonboris » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:36 pm

Yes.. If only to get the fans back on-side and look as though they are being 'pro-active' (I hate that term)
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:39 pm

boltonboris wrote:Yes.. If only to get the fans back on-side and look as though they are being 'pro-active' (I hate that term)
But like I say they risk shifting the fans ire from the manager to the owners entirely.

Could they even appoint someone who would appease the fans at this stage? Would such a manager want that job? I seriously doubt it.

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by a1 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:17 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
But like I say they risk shifting the fans ire from the manager to the owners entirely.

Could they even appoint someone who would appease the fans at this stage? Would such a manager want that job? I seriously doubt it.
probably.. it shut most of us up even when they appointed a clueless idiot that got us relegated, folk still ate up his dogma up by the bucketfull even to the point of disbelieving what the were (or werent) seeing with their own eyes.

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:54 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:Anybody.. Literally, anybody!

They could sack Kean and appoint you and their fans would be over the moon
Lets play this out....

Scenario A) They sack Kean and appoint someone decent (which seems highly unlikely as who with any decent record would go there?). They are then forced into either doing what a decent manager wants (which means not pissing around with dodgy agents, not dragging the squad and manager to India when the feel like it, not promising money, setting up a deal then reneging at the last minute etc......) OR risking that manager blaming them publically and have the fans turn on them even more. Remember they are using Blackburn as an advertising mechanism for their chicken based products back home. Venky's out signs don't look good. Basically with a half decent manager, anything that goes wrong will come back on Venky's from the Rovers fans.

Scenario B) Sack Kean and appoint another unknown (or known average/poor manager). Fans abuse switches from Kean to Venky's.

As it stands Kean is there as a buffer. He takes the major hate and the headlines.

He goes, someone else comes in, and suddenly unless its an absolute roaring success immediately, Venky's are directly in the firing line.

Its win win for them now.

If you were in India and knew nothing about football, would you fancy trying to find a new manager under those circumstances?
keano is mega cheap that is why he is still there
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:29 am

dont think this has been put on yet but they are after another playerhttp://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... e_Chamakh/
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by truewhite15 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:35 am

Chamakh is vastly overrated. But even if he wasn't, he'd still be out of Rovers reach, IMO.

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:41 am

it depends how much money they throw at him, in bonuses etc i think he is alright but can think of three bolton strikers i would rather have
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:51 am

boltonboris wrote:You mean other reasons that Venky's are still holding onto this club, or that Kean is still the manager? Because there's a particularly interesting conspiracy theory doing the rounds on the latter.. That as far fetched as it may seem initially, does raise some qestions as to why the feck is he still there....
Ah`, I wasn't aware of any particular conspiracy theory, but I've just Googled it. :shock:

Well, like you say, that one does look to be far fetched, but yes, I do have this feeling that there's something else going on that we're not aware of.

At first I thought they'd bought into Blackburn to either (a) Launch and publicise Venky's chicken products in the UK, (b) Promote Blackburn Rovers / sell shirts to their home market (b) Both.

However, and if I'm wrong here then anyone please feel free to correct me - (a) Venky's have no business in the UK other than for BRFC, and (b) I have heard some talk of an emerging football market in India, but I'm yet to see much (if indeed any) evidence. If there was a viable market in India then surely English clubs would already be crawling all over it.

So we have a highly successful company that takes over another company that specialise in a field that that the new owners don't know the first fecking thing about, to no benefit whatsoever for either company.

They put a man in charge despite him having no experience whatsoever in that role, and task him with taking that club onwards and upwards whilst playing like 70's Brazil whilst "supporting" him with a "warchest" of £5m. And we know the rest.

Both the owners and their manager, hated viciously by the company's client base, are happy to sit it out as the whole thing implodes.

Something's just not right here.
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:33 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
boltonboris wrote:You mean other reasons that Venky's are still holding onto this club, or that Kean is still the manager? Because there's a particularly interesting conspiracy theory doing the rounds on the latter.. That as far fetched as it may seem initially, does raise some qestions as to why the feck is he still there....
At first I thought they'd bought into Blackburn to either (a) Launch and publicise Venky's chicken products in the UK, (b) Promote Blackburn Rovers / sell shirts to their home market (b) Both.
Memory and owd age might be playing some tricks, but when they bought the Club, wasn't one of the tenets that a "quota" of Indian players would be shipped over every season? (I guess with the "intent" to form the New York Cosmos type thing in India, with Indian Premier League players?)

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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:44 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Could they even appoint someone who would appease the fans at this stage? Would such a manager want that job? I seriously doubt it.
I am amazed that a player like Danny Murphy wanted to go there so you can be sure an out of work manager would still jump at the chance. Megoo perhaps?
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Re: Ambitious Blackburn

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:52 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Could they even appoint someone who would appease the fans at this stage? Would such a manager want that job? I seriously doubt it.
I am amazed that a player like Danny Murphy wanted to go there so you can be sure an out of work manager would still jump at the chance. Megoo perhaps?
Aye - it's still about as reedhicolooos as suggesting we'd never get anyone to replace Coyle.

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