Sordell ... what's the point ?

[50sQuiff]

Another blank for N'Gog and yet another sitter missed. Afobe touched the ball twice from what I could see: a flick on that found no-one and a lazy foul. "What's the point" indeed.

[Jakerbeef]

Unrest or not we can't afford to loan Sordell out. Davies is getting on a bit, Ngog can't score and Afobe looks out of form.

Eagles making up for it though.

[bobo the clown]

Remember, my original question was -

If you were Marvin Sordell, right now, would you be thinking it waas time to prepare to exit ?

I sure would.

I would be amazed if he isn't regretting being here.

[Martin_Cruise]

I hope he gives 100% effort to impress in training and in the reserve matches he plays rather than sulk.He won't get on in life if he sulks.He is certain to get his chance at Bolton if he works hard, it's down to his attitude and ultimately talent whether he takes it.

[midlands exile]

I hope he gives 100% effort to impress in training and in the reserve matches he plays rather than sulk.He won't get on in life if he sulks.He is certain to get his chance at Bolton if he works hard, it's down to his attitude and ultimately talent whether he takes it.

The track record of OC's man management of "challenging" situations with players (elmander, tuncay, steinsson, klasnic, Jussi, reocoker, muamba, sordell, now maybe petrov too it seems) means it doesn't look too good...

[CAPSLOCK]

He is certain to get his chance at Bolton if he works hard, it's down to his attitude and ultimately talent whether he takes it.

What charming naivity

[bobo the clown]

He is certain to get his chance at Bolton if he works hard, it's down to his attitude and ultimately talent whether he takes it.

What charming naivity

Awwww. Bless.

[officer_dibble]

He'll be out for ages now given we won

was his last match forest when he scored?

its odd...he should be on the bech

[SmokinFrazier]

Has Sordell ever had a good game for us? I think he should be given a chance too, but if he's not performed in games, why should we persist? Davies has been better than Sordell this season and N'Gog has just returned from injury. I don't see him being a better choice than those two, based on form. As for Afobe, I suppose it depends on what both are doing in training. We can't comment there, obviously.

Four strikers on the bench is too many. I have no issues with Davies and N'Gog being picked ahead of Sordell, and maybe instead of us moaning at Coyle for not picking him, we should be hoping Sordell forces his way into the team based on his form in training?

It's hardly like Sordell has been our stand out striker so far. Sure, we all want him to do well but there's no point in playing him solely because of the fee we paid if he's not good or suitable enough yet.

[CarlosHernandez]

Sordell has barely taken the field for us, let alone had a good game. A young player, who has scored goals in this division. We can't afford to spend money on players only for them to be frozen out.

I'd rather see him get the last half hour of each match for his development, instead of Afobe who has looked about as useful as tits on a bull (and isn't ours anyway).

[CAPSLOCK]

why should we persist?

Giving the lad half a dozen starts would hardly be persisting

When we sold Gary Cahill, Clueless spent the proceeds on Ream and young Sordell

Deary, deary me

[Prufrock]

We sacrifice solidity in midfield by his persisting in 4-4-2. This sacrifice allows us to play two strikers, neither of whom ever look like scoring! They've got a goal record of somewhere around one goal every three games COMBINED! So that's two games in three where our midfielders (already shorn of an extra body) have got to get forward and score goals. Given our defence is so shit they have to score at least one for us to even get a point. I've liked what I've seen of Sordell. He's had chances in every game he has played, his movement is good. Despite being quick he doesn't seem to run in behind too often though, he drops deep, gets involve and then drifts into the box later on. If we must play two up top it has to be him and Wash for me. Kev has been one of our better players this season, but given we are now playing with no width at all aside from our shite full backs, we need mobility up top and Wash runs in behind. Got to hope and pray he someone morphs into someone who scores goals!

It is odd that the manager who described his entire view on how football should be played as being about wingers should finally stumble on a system that involves none.

[BWFC_Insane]

why should we persist?

Giving the lad half a dozen starts would hardly be persisting

When we sold Gary Cahill, Clueless spent the proceeds on Ream and young Sordell

Deary, deary me

This.

He's chucked millions on players that can't get in the side regularly. And some he seems to be determined to piss off.

If you spend 3M on a striker I suggest you give them a proper chance before writing him off.

If he ultimately is rubbish then you need to examine why you bought him in the first place.

It's worrying weve spent millions on players when we were a premiership club that no cant get in a championship side that hasnt exactly been impressing.....

[Worthy4England]

It is odd that the manager who described his entire view on how football should be played as being about wingers should finally stumble on a system that involves none.

It might be odd, it's hardly surprising.

We just need to see if he stumbles off the notion next week now...

[Worthy4England]

Deleted - double post.

[Martin_Cruise]

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If you spend 3M on a striker I suggest you give them a proper chance before writing him off.

If he ultimately is rubbish then you need to examine why you bought him in the first place.

.[/quote]

I don't know what the big deal is about Sordell.He was signed as a rookie from the Championship and will get his chance soon enough when injuries and suspensions take effect if his efforts in training and the reserves don't .
Anyone who thinks £3 million buys a top quality striker needs to realise this is 2012 not 1992.It's a small fee now and for that you get a rookie from Watford.He's not even our most expensive striker and likewise £4 million bought a failure from Liverpool.You are looking at £8 million for a decent striker these days.

[plymouth wanderer]

If you spend 3M on a striker I suggest you give them a proper chance before writing him off.

If he ultimately is rubbish then you need to examine why you bought him in the first place.

.[/quote]

I don't know what the big deal is about Sordell.He was signed as a rookie from the Championship and will get his chance soon enough when injuries and suspensions take effect if his efforts in training and the reserves don't .
Anyone who thinks £3 million buys a top quality striker needs to realise this is 2012 not 1992.It's a small fee now and for that you get a rookie from Watford.He's not even our most expensive striker and likewise £4 million bought a failure from Liverpool.You are looking at £8 million for a decent striker these days.[/quote]

It's alot of money for us

But i agree with what your saying

[Hoboh]

I don't know what the big deal is about Sordell.He was signed as a rookie from the Championship and will get his chance soon enough when injuries and suspensions take effect if his efforts in training and the reserves don't .
Anyone who thinks £3 million buys a top quality striker needs to realise this is 2012 not 1992.It's a small fee now and for that you get a rookie from Watford.He's not even our most expensive striker and likewise £4 million bought a failure from Liverpool.You are looking at £8 million for a decent striker these days.

I'll tell you what 'the big deal' is

Coyle, not me, you or any number of posters on here hyped him up more than the iphone 5 as the must have player and now is treating HIS must have player pretty shitty.
Would you buy the iphone and stick it in a drawer? thought not!
All the evidence so far this season points to us having players and a squad capable of being up the top end of this table if managed correctly oh alongside there ain't half some crappy teams down here as well.
I never want Bolton to lose and if Coyle sticks around and we progress so be it, I'd rather we went for someone with a bit about their past that players have to respect and who has proper ideas not dreams and is hungry for success. If Coyle gets us up top then fair enough but I will never forgive the tw*t as long as he breathes for getting us relegated in the first place, injuries aside we had enough to stay up and he no one else feckin' blew it.

[officer_dibble]

Out of interest and cos I know worthy will deliver the goods, how many centre forwards were signed by their current clubs in the championship for more than Sordell?
Rhodes
Ngog

[Martin_Cruise]

I don't know what the big deal is about Sordell.He was signed as a rookie from the Championship and will get his chance soon enough when injuries and suspensions take effect if his efforts in training and the reserves don't .
Anyone who thinks £3 million buys a top quality striker needs to realise this is 2012 not 1992.It's a small fee now and for that you get a rookie from Watford.He's not even our most expensive striker and likewise £4 million bought a failure from Liverpool.You are looking at £8 million for a decent striker these days.

I'll tell you what 'the big deal' is

Coyle, not me, you or any number of posters on here hyped him up more than the iphone 5 as the must have player and now is treating HIS must have player pretty shitty.
Would you buy the iphone and stick it in a drawer? thought not!
All the evidence so far this season points to us having players and a squad capable of being up the top end of this table if managed correctly oh alongside there ain't half some crappy teams down here as well.
I never want Bolton to lose and if Coyle sticks around and we progress so be it, I'd rather we went for someone with a bit about their past that players have to respect and who has proper ideas not dreams and is hungry for success. If Coyle gets us up top then fair enough but I will never forgive the tw*t as long as he breathes for getting us relegated in the first place, injuries aside we had enough to stay up and he no one else feckin' blew it.

That's another point I disagree with.With Holden, Lee and Muamba all out as they were during the run in I thought Bolton had one of the worst 3 teams on paper.The midfield in particular was a long way short of the standard needed.Which of the teams that stayed up do you think had worse players available to them than Bolton during the run in that got us relegated?