The Great Art Debate

[Gary the Enfield]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.

Culture Vulture me.

Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

[TANGODANCER]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.
Culture Vulture me.
Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

Millais, Rosetti, Holman Hunt and all those Ladies of the Lake and stuff. Go for it.

[Gary the Enfield]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.
Culture Vulture me.
Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

Millais, Rosetti, Holman Hunt and all those Ladies of the Lake and stuff. Go for it.

I shall TD, I shall.

I know it's not quite the same school but I do love this:

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.

Culture Vulture me.

Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

Excellent - I look forward to your review.

I hope they have secured Isbella from the Walker Art Gallery in Liverpool for you. It was always a painting I liked but it is only recently when I have became more familiar with Italian Quattrocento paintings that I realised I never understood the references.

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In fact, if you and whoever you are with can be bothered, I think it would be great to combine the exhibit with a trip to the National Gallery to see our Quattrocento paintings by Botticelli and the like, and to see if you agree with the Brotherhood's manifestio that an over conventionalised malaise set in after Raphael, or with Dickens when he said that Millais's 'Christ in the house of his parents' was tantamount to blasphemism in its radical treatment of the holy family. I suppose you might see a kindred spirit with Caravaggio, whose 'Supper At Emmaus' uses a clean shaven, feminine looking gigolo as the model for Christ,

There is also a free exhibit in another room of the Tate Britain at the moment that looks at 'Victorian sentimentalism', which is another interesting comparison.

[Bruce Rioja]

Honestly, when you (and I) have both seen the entirety of Price's work, we can hope to have a proper conversation about it... In fact, it would be great to see it together, and share the response... I'd like that... Fancy? I don't even know where it is, but propose you drive...

I'd love that, Will. You find out where we can get to see it in its entirety, I'll provide the transport, and then later we can compare findings on local licensed premises, which shall remain nameless

[bobo the clown]

Honestly, when you (and I) have both seen the entirety of Price's work, we can hope to have a proper conversation about it... In fact, it would be great to see it together, and share the response... I'd like that... Fancy? I don't even know where it is, but propose you drive...

I'd love that, Will. You find out where we can get to see it in its entirety, I'll provide the transport, and then later we can compare findings on local licensed premises, which shall remain nameless

So he cons you into driving him to look at what will be, without any doubt whatsoever, a load of old shite & you feel privilaged to share a pint with him for your efforts ... which you will be barely able to sample, given that you're driving.

Way to go. One up to the old Marxist !!

I predict you'll be buying the beer to.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Well the answer to 'where' can we see it, assuming it's not on LoveFilm yet, is the Turner Prize exhibition at the Tate Britain on Millbank, which is running until 6 January. Let me know if you make it down!

[Bruce Rioja]

So he cons you into driving him to look at what will be, without any doubt whatsoever, a load of old shite & you feel privilaged to share a pint with him for your efforts ... which you will be barely able to sample, given that you're driving.

Way to go. One up to the old Marxist !!

I predict you'll be buying the beer to.

It's always a privilege to have a pint and a natter with Will, Bobo. The ale in the pub between our houses usually results in the car getting dumped off around the back and being walked back for the day after

Other than for what I get taxed I drive for free, and I'm a shit passenger.

But yes, I'm already entrenched in the Load of old shite camp.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.

Culture Vulture me.

Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

I've just read this properly - it's on at the Tate Britain, so make sure you get the right one!

[Worthy4England]

So he cons you into driving him to look at what will be, without any doubt whatsoever, a load of old shite & you feel privilaged to share a pint with him for your efforts ... which you will be barely able to sample, given that you're driving.

Way to go. One up to the old Marxist !!

I predict you'll be buying the beer to.

It's always a privilege to have a pint and a natter with Will, Bobo. The ale in the pub between our houses usually results in the car getting dumped off around the back and being walked back for the day after

Other than for what I get taxed I drive for free, and I'm a shit passenger.

But yes, I'm already entrenched in the Load of old shite camp.

Thebish will conduct the service if you ask him nicely, and they might get a card and a prezzie from the supportive Big Dave. Whoop whoop. Which one's the plug and which one's the socket?

[Bruce Rioja]

So he cons you into driving him to look at what will be, without any doubt whatsoever, a load of old shite & you feel privilaged to share a pint with him for your efforts ... which you will be barely able to sample, given that you're driving.

Way to go. One up to the old Marxist !!

I predict you'll be buying the beer to.

It's always a privilege to have a pint and a natter with Will, Bobo. The ale in the pub between our houses usually results in the car getting dumped off around the back and being walked back for the day after

Other than for what I get taxed I drive for free, and I'm a shit passenger.

But yes, I'm already entrenched in the Load of old shite camp.

Thebish will conduct the service if you ask him nicely, and they might get a card and a prezzie from the supportive Big Dave. Whoop whoop. Which one's the plug and which one's the socket?

An ex-boss of mine, a heavily accented Geordie, once had to go for a rectal examination. When he came in the day after I asked him how he'd got on. He replied :insert Geordie accent: "Well, I'm glad I'm not a puff, like, if that was just a blerk's 4uckin' fingar".

[thebish]

Honestly, when you (and I) have both seen the entirety of Price's work, we can hope to have a proper conversation about it... In fact, it would be great to see it together, and share the response... I'd like that... Fancy? I don't even know where it is, but propose you drive...

I'd love that, Will. You find out where we can get to see it in its entirety, I'll provide the transport, and then later we can compare findings on local licensed premises, which shall remain nameless

So he cons you into driving him to look at what will be, without any doubt whatsoever, a load of old shite & you feel privilaged to share a pint with him for your efforts ... which you will be barely able to sample, given that you're driving.

Way to go. One up to the old Marxist !!

I predict you'll be buying the beer to.

you see - Bruce has wangled his way into an introductory level of the Discerning Gourmande BWFC Aesthete Club - you're just jealous...

[TANGODANCER]

I hope they have secured Isbella from the Walker Art Gallery in Liverpool for you. It was always a painting I liked but it is only recently when I have became more familiar with Italian Quattrocento paintings that I realised I never understood the references.

Aye, that shadow on the table is some reference.

[Gary the Enfield]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.

Culture Vulture me.

Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

I've just read this properly - it's on at the Tate Britain, so make sure you get the right one!

Tate Britain, yes.

[William the White]

Well the answer to 'where' can we see it, assuming it's not on LoveFilm yet, is the Turner Prize exhibition at the Tate Britain on Millbank, which is running until 6 January. Let me know if you make it down!

That's a bugger - could have combined it with Palace Away, which I am going to, if it was on for another couple of weeks.

Will you be going to see it? it would be good to have a report on the actuality rather than a minute and a half on YouTube, and smelly dump of prejudice from some feckin clown who's already asked me if I'll buy him a pint in the Loftie Lower before next Saturday's match, and organised Bruce to identify me to him!

[Bruce Rioja]

Well the answer to 'where' can we see it, assuming it's not on LoveFilm yet, is the Turner Prize exhibition at the Tate Britain on Millbank, which is running until 6 January. Let me know if you make it down!

That's a bugger - could have combined it with Palace Away, which I am going to, if it was on for another couple of weeks.

Will you be going to see it? it would be good to have a report on the actuality rather than a minute and a half on YouTube, and smelly dump of prejudice from some feckin clown who's already asked me if I'll buy him a pint in the Loftie Lower before next Saturday's match, and organised Bruce to identify me to him!

I didn't know about this! And Millbank? Isn't that where........ egads.............. shudder, shudder?!?!?!

[bobo the clown]

Millbank is 10 minutes up-river from Big Ben.

& Will, I find blind prejudice on such matters merely saves time.

As a strange man one, almost, said "when the Marxists see the trailer then the sardines will come flocking" ... I think it was subtitled.

[Gary the Enfield]

Off to see the Pre-Raphaelite exhibition at the Tate Modern on Sunday.

Culture Vulture me.

Plus that Rossetti fella liked a redhead. As do I.

Excellent - I look forward to your review.

I hope they have secured Isbella from the Walker Art Gallery in Liverpool for you. It was always a painting I liked but it is only recently when I have became more familiar with Italian Quattrocento paintings that I realised I never understood the references.

http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/john-ev ... d-isabella" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In fact, if you and whoever you are with can be bothered, I think it would be great to combine the exhibit with a trip to the National Gallery to see our Quattrocento paintings by Botticelli and the like, and to see if you agree with the Brotherhood's manifestio that an over conventionalised malaise set in after Raphael, or with Dickens when he said that Millais's 'Christ in the house of his parents' was tantamount to blasphemism in its radical treatment of the holy family. I suppose you might see a kindred spirit with Caravaggio, whose 'Supper At Emmaus' uses a clean shaven, feminine looking gigolo as the model for Christ,

There is also a free exhibit in another room of the Tate Britain at the moment that looks at 'Victorian sentimentalism', which is another interesting comparison.

Well I went. I have to admit Mummy that when I read your reply I was a little daunted as to what you were expecting from me by way of review. First of all I have to say if you haven't seen it, then do. I'm going back again because I simply didn't have time to see it all and do it justice.

There are 7 rooms within the exhibition from the origins of the movement (and it's originators and their influences) through to their contemporaries and subsequent followers of the originators.

Highlights (for me) are Lorenzo and Isabella and Ophelia by Millais and The Scapegoat and The Shadow of Death by Holman Hunt. I won't post the images, they don't do the originals justice.

There are simply too many wonderful paintings and sketches to describe here but I was enthralled to see so many famous pieces in such a small area.

Anyone visiting the capital soon should put this on the 'to do' list. Just incredible.

Oh, and 'Christ in the House of His Parents' is a strange one.

The central figure looks like a small girl. Not uncommon for the PRB boys to make their men feminine, I know, but this is very much a girly boy.

Christ has cut his palm on a nail in the workshop. Blood has dripped onto the top of his bare foot giving the impression of stigmata. A young boy carries a bowl of water to bathe Christ's injury. The boy is John the Baptist. So we have an allusion to Christ's Baptism and crucifixion in the same painting. Blasphemous? Perhaps then. Striking? Definitely.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Well I went. I have to admit Mummy that when I read your reply I was a little daunted as to what you were expecting from me by way of review.

Sorry, i didn't mean to do that and have just read back and seen that I did go off on one a bit.

I enjoyed your review anyway - I am more inclined to go now than I was before.

[William the White]

Thanks, Gary. A really interesting report. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm tempted myself, even though, the P-Rs have never really done it for me. I'm interested in the idea that the accumulated effect might reveal something.