quick pole

[truewhite15]

Can we bollocks. It's not going to happen. We've a bunch of wasters for a team, with only one or two worth keeping. The rest are either shite or don't give a shite. It amounts to the same thing.

Make no mistake, Freedman's got a huge job on his hands. It was right that Coyle went. But what's happened since has opened my eyes to the ineptitude of the players, as well as the previous management. Dougie's got two transfer windows to get it right, or he'll be out on his arse, and we'll be fecked.

[Worthy4England]

We've got a load of strikers who don't know where the back of the net is, a soft midfield and a leaky defence. We're making a lot of individual mistakes and not learning from our errors.

But apart from that, we're in good shape.

[SmokinFrazier]

It's still possible, of course. Plenty of teams have gone on a surprising good run, so there's no reason we couldn't do it either. Look at Ipswich now. A few weeks ago, they were looking like relegation candidates and then they pick up a bunch of points. They aren't an isolated example either. We've been one of the very few consistent sides so far...sadly, we're consistently average but if all these other sides can go on great runs, so can we. Cardiff, Palace, Boro, Ipswich, Blackburn, Blackpool, Forest and more have all had good runs. If we can do the same as they all did, we'd be in and around the play-off places.

The season hasn't been great so far but it is no way over. We're 7 points off the play-off positions and 15 points off the automatic spots with 25 games to go. There's still a long, long way to go.

[mrpiccollo]

quick pole ???

Błaszczykowski?

[Peter Thompson]

Not a chance with this current bunch of losers....we have a squad of mentally weak players.

IMO Freedman is a 'slight' improvement on Coyle but only slight, I'm already getting p*ssed off with his after match interviews - Yes it's still early days with DF but I thought he'd come in as a 'breath of fresh air' tell it as it is and sort these pathetic players out, but after the 1st couple of weeks he's almost gone back to defending the players at all costs (as Coyle did)

The transfer window will be interesting with DF, because we desperately need a striker who can actually score and a solid centre half who can organise the back four - saying that, I think that he'll have to generate his own transfer funds but apart from Mark Davies would any club pay a decent transfer fee for any of our other players at this moment in time, Eagles possibly ?

There's certainly been no revolution under Freedman, and nothing to suggest that he'll put a run of wins together. We are still making the same mistakes week in week out as we did under the other fella.

[bwfcdan94]

Quick pole , i get it now.

[bobo the clown]

I've been unsure up to now, but at last it's clear ... this IS all a big piss take.

Unsure until now?

I know, but I'm an innocent not easily taken to cynicism.

[TANGODANCER]

Not a chance with this current bunch of losers....we have a squad of mentally weak players.

I've said this before. I tend to watch all the Championship games in the football league show. One thing is very clear; there are some pretty decent teams out there and some good football being played. It's certainly no walk in the park for anybody, as the topsy-turvy results show. There's still time to turn it all around and we have most of the players to do it. Keep calling your own players losers really helps boost morale. Being fed up and disappointed is one thing, but keep shitting on your own from a great height helps nothing or nobody. Unless we believe we can do it, why bother? I still do believe we can and I'll keep doing that. I get the feeling you've never played much football.

[Peter Thompson]

I get the feeling you've never played much football.

TD - You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried, but carry on....I'm sure my personal comments do not affect the teams morale !

The players are mentally weak and are used to losing, they lack that winning mentality, which is possibly down to Coyle possibly not, time will tell - but I suspect almost every BWFC fan yesterday knew that Huddersfield would equalize because IMO as a combined group of players they are weak, which is why we can't keep holding on to leads and this is in the championship !

[TANGODANCER]

I get the feeling you've never played much football.

TD - You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried, but carry on....I'm sure my personal comments do not affect the teams morale !

The players are mentally weak and are used to losing, they lack that winning mentality, which is possibly down to Coyle possibly not, time will tell - but I suspect almost every BWFC fan yesterday knew that Huddersfield would equalize because IMO as a combined group of players they are weak, which is why we can't keep holding on to leads and this is in the championship !

Then fair enough, I withdraw the comment, I've played plenty. In that case the first goal was pure bad luck, a clearing header hitting our own player in the face and being deflected in. The two we scored were good football and good goals. The penalty miss was bad, can't argue with that, and the equaliser mainly down to bad play from one defender. Where is the lack of fight or weakness in any of it since we dominated the second half and scored two goals? I was no less disappointed than anybody else to lose the points at the death, but to say they lack winning mentality sounds like we weren't playing away and there was no opposition.

[BWFC_Insane]

I get the feeling you've never played much football.

TD - You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried, but carry on....I'm sure my personal comments do not affect the teams morale !

The players are mentally weak and are used to losing, they lack that winning mentality, which is possibly down to Coyle possibly not, time will tell - but I suspect almost every BWFC fan yesterday knew that Huddersfield would equalize because IMO as a combined group of players they are weak, which is why we can't keep holding on to leads and this is in the championship !

Then fair enough, I withdraw the comment, I've played plenty. In that case the first goal was pure bad luck, a clearing header hitting our own player in the face and being deflected in. The two we scored were good football and good goals. The penalty miss was bad, can't argue with that, and the equaliser mainly down to bad play from one defender. Where is the lack of fight or weakness in any of it since we dominated the second half and scored two goals? I was no less disappointed than anybody else to lose the points at the death, but to say they lack winning mentality sounds like we weren't playing away and there was no opposition.

We do so blatantly lack the winning mentality.

It's why we've given more points away from winning posititions this season than any other team in the division.

Even Dougie says we lack the mentality to see games out.

I do think the squad are mentally weak. We don't have many who to me seem prepared to take responsibility in various ways.

[TANGODANCER]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

[BWFC_Insane]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

Not being particularly negative. Not much point in denying an obvious problem though.

Too many times we are giving away leads.

Either down to ability or mentality or possibly and probably both.

[jaffka]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

Not being particularly negative. Not much point in denying an obvious problem though.

Too many times we are giving away leads.

Either down to ability or mentality or possibly and probably both.

We can all point out the bad and the pathetic, its when some people constantly do that it gets a little tiring.

That by the way is not aimed at you.

[TANGODANCER]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

Not being particularly negative. Not much point in denying an obvious problem though.
Too many times we are giving away leads.
Either down to ability or mentality or possibly and probably both.

Nothing to do with the opposition wanting the points as much as we do then? I've groaned about it as much as you because it's as frustrating as fxck, and I'll bow to your view yesterday because I wasn't there. I will say though, nothing I heard gave me the opinion we weren't trying, gave up at any stage, or the team as a whole lacking ability or mentality. We had a bit of bad luck with the penalty and Ream let it down at the end, that said, they might feel the same after hitting the bar and seeing Bogdan make two wonder saves. Not exactly world's end, that's not till the 21 st.

[SmokinFrazier]

There's a difference between being mentally weak and having no confidence. One can be changed, one can't. If we have a bit of good fortune and manage to put three wins together, the players will grow in confidence and we'll play much better as a result. The problem is, we aren't getting that initial good bit of form which can propel our season.

[Jakerbeef]

The trouble is that we've statistically given up the most points from winning positions this season, out of all the teams in the Championship. (Not pulling that stat out of my arse, though I'll dig he article out if needs be)

If we were able to defend and hold onto a lead we would in fact be doing much better, probably plain-sailing actually.

We can't keep mentioning single incidents and pointing to luck. That's what Coyle did. He expected things to eventually change but they didn't because he never tackled the problem. The absolute number one priority is start keeping clean sheets and not conceding an average of 2 goals a game, which we've done for yonks.

They could conceiveably be a little stronger mentally...

[Bruce Rioja]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

The fact that the players lack a winning mentality is as plain as the noses on our faces, Tango, and has nothing whatsoever to do with what anyone writes on either here or anywhere else. When we first went up to the prem we had the same problem, in fact, I remember someone producing a stat along the lines of that in our first season if the games had only lasted for 85 minutes or so we'd have finished about eighth. Sam Allardyce taught them how to see a game out - to keep it in the corners - to do anything other than give them the ball. Later he allowed our players to give the other side the ball but not to let them through a phalanx of ten men. This was ugly, but it was all effective. Give me some of that ugly stuff again, and the sooner the better.

[BWFC_Insane]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

The fact that the players lack a winning mentality is as plain as the noses on our faces, Tango, and has nothing whatsoever to do with what anyone writes on either here or anywhere else. When we first went up to the prem we had the same problem, in fact, I remember someone producing a stat along the lines of that in our first season if the games had only lasted for 85 minutes or so we'd have finished about eighth. Sam Allardyce taught them how to see a game out - to keep it in the corners - to do anything other than give them the ball. Later he allowed our players to give the other side the ball but not to let them through a phalanx of ten men. This was ugly, but it was all effective. Give me some of that ugly stuff again, and the sooner the better.

I'm not even sure he taught them owt. He just gradually introduced better players.

Ones with knowledge of how to win. And of course the ability to do shit.

[BWFC_Insane]

Nothing new here then, me trying to stay positive and You and PT promoting the negative.

Not being particularly negative. Not much point in denying an obvious problem though.
Too many times we are giving away leads.
Either down to ability or mentality or possibly and probably both.

Nothing to do with the opposition wanting the points as much as we do then? I've groaned about it as much as you because it's as frustrating as fxck, and I'll bow to your view yesterday because I wasn't there. I will say though, nothing I heard gave me the opinion we weren't trying, gave up at any stage, or the team as a whole lacking ability or mentality. We had a bit of bad luck with the penalty and Ream let it down at the end, that said, they might feel the same after hitting the bar and seeing Bogdan make two wonder saves. Not exactly world's end, that's not till the 21 st.

I'm certainly not saying its the world end.

But you know when statistically we are the team to surrender more points from winning positions I think it's important we acknowledge that as a flaw rather than just saying 'ah well the opposition tried a bit harder'. Otherwise no fecker would ever win a game, they'd all be drawn!

It's nothing to do with 'not trying'. It's about the team mentality to see out games. We are not strong enough as a group to do that.