The Great Art Debate

[thebish]

Anyway...

Been perusing the works of John Atkinson Grimshaw. His ability to capture various times of day, particularly night time, is quite stunning.

http://tinyurl.com/b79jlbt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

is this the guy that, basically, shone OHP projections of photos onto canvases and traced them?

If so, I've never heard that. He's just a great Victorian painter as far as I know.

Don't worry, TD. The overhead projector was not widely available in Victorian times so I guess his use of it wasn't well known. Come to think of it, photographs weren't too common either.

By projecting a photograph or a lantern slide on to a blank canvas, Grimshaw was able to create an instant composition, the outlines of which he could go over in pencil.

from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/ ... view.html#

[TANGODANCER]

By projecting a photograph or a lantern slide on to a blank canvas, Grimshaw was able to create an instant composition, the outlines of which he could go over in pencil.

from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/ ... view.html#

Interesting indeed. Whatever his methods, his results were spectacular.

[Bruce Rioja]

By projecting a photograph or a lantern slide on to a blank canvas, Grimshaw was able to create an instant composition, the outlines of which he could go over in pencil.

from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/ ... view.html#

Interesting indeed. Whatever his methods, his results were spectacular.

"Spectacular"? I wouldn't go that far. Pleasing, I'd say.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/frederi ... nthe-1880/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe we won't discuss whether this is a Pre-Raphaelite painting or not (and, if it is, whether its 'classical' subject matter is therefore surprising!).

[Athers]

Enjoyed the start to that review - I'd find myself wanting to say that the arm looks weird, or the tiger looks crap, but would fear that I was missing that this oddness was intended and deeply meaningful in a way which I haven't understood.

[Montreal Wanderer]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/frederi ... nthe-1880/

Maybe we won't discuss whether this is a Pre-Raphaelite painting or not (and, if it is, whether its 'classical' subject matter is therefore surprising!).

The caption states: the frothy waves enshroud her legs in the guise of a cotton throw. What's all that about? As far as I can see her legs are nowhere near the waves.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Enjoyed the start to that review - I'd find myself wanting to say that the arm looks weird, or the tiger looks crap, but would fear that I was missing that this oddness was intended and deeply meaningful in a way which I haven't understood.

As Bobo will tell you, the fear of looking like an idiot when commenting on the Emperor's latest outfit is a powerful thing in art that lets a lot of people get away with murder.

One of the sites I borrowed a Seagram Mural image from is written almost completely in nonsense:

http://unurthed.com/2010/07/19/rothko%E ... am-murals/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/frederi ... nthe-1880/

Maybe we won't discuss whether this is a Pre-Raphaelite painting or not (and, if it is, whether its 'classical' subject matter is therefore surprising!).

The caption states: the frothy waves enshroud her legs in the guise of a cotton throw. What's all that about? As far as I can see her legs are nowhere near the waves.

Yes - mainly 'Amy Exton' writes captions that make her look like she has swallowed a thesaurus, but that is an odd thing to say...

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/peter-f ... s-go-1987/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The makers of that Audi advert must have seen this once upon a time.

I think their decision to go with 3 mins of it rather than half an hour was a good one.

[Montreal Wanderer]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/peter-f ... s-go-1987/

The makers of that Audi advert must have seen this once upon a time.

I think their decision to go with 3 mins of it rather than half an hour was a good one.

That's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back... Thanks, Art world.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/peter-f ... s-go-1987/

The makers of that Audi advert must have seen this once upon a time.

I think their decision to go with 3 mins of it rather than half an hour was a good one.

That's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back... Thanks, Art world.

You lasted that long?!

[Montreal Wanderer]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/peter-f ... s-go-1987/

The makers of that Audi advert must have seen this once upon a time.

I think their decision to go with 3 mins of it rather than half an hour was a good one.

That's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back... Thanks, Art world.

You lasted that long?!

Yes, I'm a patient man. 'Amy Exton' is an idiot - 'unbearable tension', bah! Terminal boredom after 15 minutes. It was like my teenage years - waiting for something interesting to happen but...

[thebish]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/peter-f ... s-go-1987/

The makers of that Audi advert must have seen this once upon a time.

I think their decision to go with 3 mins of it rather than half an hour was a good one.

That's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back... Thanks, Art world.

I often use that expression - my eldest son hates it (which is partly why I use it!)

he would say, "what are these periods of your life that you can get back???"

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

https://www.artfinder.com/story/edouard ... rass-1863/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One of my favourites. Thankfully, they seem to have left us in the dark as to what Amy Exton makes of it.

I hate to sound like I'm taking some Polytechnic 'gender studies' course, but regular viewers will notice that I have been quite heavily influenced by a certain radical Socialist commentator. Who'd have thought it...

[bobo the clown]

I hate to sound like I'm taking some Polytechnic 'gender studies' course, but regular viewers will notice that I have been quite heavily influenced by a certain radical Socialist commentator. Who'd have thought it...

Then stop it.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I hate to sound like I'm taking some Polytechnic 'gender studies' course, but regular viewers will notice that I have been quite heavily influenced by a certain radical Socialist commentator. Who'd have thought it...

Then stop it.

What I mean is that I am sorry if I sound repetitive on the subject of the depiction of women in painting, but the point is it really can't be helped.

[bobo the clown]

I hate to sound like I'm taking some Polytechnic 'gender studies' course, but regular viewers will notice that I have been quite heavily influenced by a certain radical Socialist commentator. Who'd have thought it...

Then stop it.

What I mean is that I am sorry if I sound repetitive on the subject of the depiction of women in painting, but the point is it really can't be helped.

What I meant was "give your head a wobble & stop trying to intellectualise things which don't warrant it.

You will, eventually, be embarrassed about this. You will try to deny it and work harder & harder to justify it as it dawns on you & eventually it will become your own, private "wtf period" and you will hope people don't recall the phase.

Save yourself the angst. Just stop it now.

THAT's what I meant. .... & deep down you know I'm right. I'm just trying to save you time.

[Bruce Rioja]

Ah, I thought it looked rather familiar.

[bobo the clown]

That Malcolm McLaren, eh ? .... Never had a new idea in his head ... 7 Annabel Lewin was only 15 when he stating "mentoring" her. Excpect the court cases soon.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I hate to sound like I'm taking some Polytechnic 'gender studies' course, but regular viewers will notice that I have been quite heavily influenced by a certain radical Socialist commentator. Who'd have thought it...

Then stop it.

What I mean is that I am sorry if I sound repetitive on the subject of the depiction of women in painting, but the point is it really can't be helped.

What I meant was "give your head a wobble & stop trying to intellectualise things which don't warrant it.

You will, eventually, be embarrassed about this. You will try to deny it and work harder & harder to justify it as it dawns on you & eventually it will become your own, private "wtf period" and you will hope people don't recall the phase.

Save yourself the angst. Just stop it now.

THAT's what I meant. .... & deep down you know I'm right. I'm just trying to save you time.

The other day I met the guy who has conceived this course, and I am in the process of applying: http://www.christieseducation.com/londo ... s_msc.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Part of the interview process is commenting on a painting they stick in front of you on the day - as such, this Artfinder site is actually a good bit of daily practice.

For some reason, and I know you think this is deviant behaviour, I enjoy looking at pictures and thinking about where they fit into the history of making pictures. Now, are you saying that I am looking for/finding things that aren't there, or that the whole thing is so unworthy as to be inherently embarrassing anyway?