The Politics Thread

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Is Farage a near-racist? Is there such a thing? I had people near-lambasting me when I said that di Canio was a fascist, hence why I'm querying this.
That and the fact I'm thinking of voting for the scumbag's party, so I need to know what I'm letting myself in for.

I think so, but he's careful to avoid being entirely open, while offering nods and winks. In the dispiriting debate on QT about the coming 'floods' of Bulgarian and Romanian migrants he made icertain that we all knew that many of them were 'Roma' and that in recent times there had been a surge of crimes in London committed by Romanians... he didn't go as far as saying 'thieving gypsies' - but he gave us what passes for subtle guidance in his hands.

Fair enough. There'll be even more irony in the fact that I'm one eighth Gypsy then when I vote for UKIP. I think my lot saw how the wind was blowing and snuck over just after the second world war. The fact that we are now house-owners in this generation demonstrates that multi-culturalism doesn't work, that or I'm just not very good with horses.

[BWFC_Insane]

Is Farage a near-racist? Is there such a thing? I had people near-lambasting me when I said that di Canio was a fascist, hence why I'm querying this.
That and the fact I'm thinking of voting for the scumbag's party, so I need to know what I'm letting myself in for.

I think so, but he's careful to avoid being entirely open, while offering nods and winks. In the dispiriting debate on QT about the coming 'floods' of Bulgarian and Romanian migrants he made icertain that we all knew that many of them were 'Roma' and that in recent times there had been a surge of crimes in London committed by Romanians... he didn't go as far as saying 'thieving gypsies' - but he gave us what passes for subtle guidance in his hands.

Fair enough. There'll be even more irony in the fact that I'm one eighth Gypsy then when I vote for UKIP. I think my lot saw how the wind was blowing and snuck over just after the second world war. The fact that we are now house-owners in this generation demonstrates that multi-culturalism doesn't work, that or I'm just not very good with horses.

If they really knew the wind direction, they'd have come before for sure!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Is Farage a near-racist? Is there such a thing? I had people near-lambasting me when I said that di Canio was a fascist, hence why I'm querying this.
That and the fact I'm thinking of voting for the scumbag's party, so I need to know what I'm letting myself in for.

I think so, but he's careful to avoid being entirely open, while offering nods and winks. In the dispiriting debate on QT about the coming 'floods' of Bulgarian and Romanian migrants he made icertain that we all knew that many of them were 'Roma' and that in recent times there had been a surge of crimes in London committed by Romanians... he didn't go as far as saying 'thieving gypsies' - but he gave us what passes for subtle guidance in his hands.

Fair enough. There'll be even more irony in the fact that I'm one eighth Gypsy then when I vote for UKIP. I think my lot saw how the wind was blowing and snuck over just after the second world war. The fact that we are now house-owners in this generation demonstrates that multi-culturalism doesn't work, that or I'm just not very good with horses.

If they really knew the wind direction, they'd have come before for sure!

There was absolutely no need, they were Spanish Roma, and as we all know Spain was neutral during that particular bit of fighting. The fact there was an edict issued by the Catholic Monarchs against jews and gypsies back in the fifteenth century is neither here nor there, as they snuck into Spain from Morocco after the Almoravids had persecuted them, and then snuck back over the straight when the christians started up. It just shows what a sneaky bunch of bast*rds we are.

[BWFC_Insane]

Is Farage a near-racist? Is there such a thing? I had people near-lambasting me when I said that di Canio was a fascist, hence why I'm querying this.
That and the fact I'm thinking of voting for the scumbag's party, so I need to know what I'm letting myself in for.

I think so, but he's careful to avoid being entirely open, while offering nods and winks. In the dispiriting debate on QT about the coming 'floods' of Bulgarian and Romanian migrants he made icertain that we all knew that many of them were 'Roma' and that in recent times there had been a surge of crimes in London committed by Romanians... he didn't go as far as saying 'thieving gypsies' - but he gave us what passes for subtle guidance in his hands.

Fair enough. There'll be even more irony in the fact that I'm one eighth Gypsy then when I vote for UKIP. I think my lot saw how the wind was blowing and snuck over just after the second world war. The fact that we are now house-owners in this generation demonstrates that multi-culturalism doesn't work, that or I'm just not very good with horses.

If they really knew the wind direction, they'd have come before for sure!

There was absolutely no need, they were Spanish Roma, and as we all know Spain was neutral during that particular bit of fighting. The fact there was an edict issued by the Catholic Monarchs against jews and gypsies back in the fifteenth century is neither here nor there, as they snuck into Spain from Morocco after the Almoravids had persecuted them, and then snuck back over the straight when the christians started up. It just shows what a sneaky bunch of bast*rds we are.

Ah my mistake, I presumed Eastern European.....

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Ah my mistake, I presumed Eastern European.....

Yeh, they've had a harder time than my lot in recent decades. I think after Adolf Hitler and Stalin they'll find Nigel Farage a piece of piss to deal with.

[CrazyHorse]

That's a picture of Robbie Savage isn't it?

[Prufrock]

I'm protesting about a lot of things.
One of the things I'm protesting about is the irony of UKIP standing in local elections. It's not quite as good as voting for them in the European elections, mind. The sheer irony of UKIP having a MEP is utterly fabulous.
Secondly, I'm not going to hurt the goddam Tories (or even their feckless harlot tailcoaters, the Libdems) by voting for Labour - which is my natural instinct - because all that'll happen is that the Tory mob will get in again and we'll get the same old same old once again. But, it just might be that there are enough tories and libdems out there who are thinking of voting UKIP and therefore me (a Labour supporter) adding another vote to that particular pile might, just might lead to a bloody nose for the central government (even though delivered through the local government system).
The third thing I'm protesting about is Wallace. I just can't bring myself to vote for a member of the Labour party (any member, no matter if otherwise they are the political equivalent of Albert Einstein, which none of the fxckers are anyway) who has as their leader that ineffectual joke. The Labour party should be ripping this particular government to shreds, but Milliband's about as worrisome as a very small boil. A very small boil on someone else's neck.
And fourthly, although I hadn't realised it until now, I'm going to protest vote to annoy all those people who think that protest voting is a waste of time.

Well, you could at least learn what a protest vote was then . What you're considering sounds like a tactical vote to me.

I can't be too harsh though, as, as you may have noticed, I'm no pedant.

Also, check the rules coz I'm not actually sure Leopards are allowed to vote.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

You are so right. Tactical. It even sounds better. What I'm about to do is a tactical nuclear strike, not a protest nuclear strike. You sir, are a TRUE pedant.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

As for the leopards shit. Don't worry: I'm actually a cheater. We are allowed to vote, and cannot be deported.

[Lord Kangana]

Is Farage a near-racist? Is there such a thing? I had people near-lambasting me when I said that di Canio was a fascist, hence why I'm querying this.
That and the fact I'm thinking of voting for the scumbag's party, so I need to know what I'm letting myself in for.

I think so, but he's careful to avoid being entirely open, while offering nods and winks. In the dispiriting debate on QT about the coming 'floods' of Bulgarian and Romanian migrants he made icertain that we all knew that many of them were 'Roma' and that in recent times there had been a surge of crimes in London committed by Romanians... he didn't go as far as saying 'thieving gypsies' - but he gave us what passes for subtle guidance in his hands.

Far be it for me to defend the man, and I won't, but the most worrying aspect of Farage's background is not the right-wing/immigration shit he spouts to rabble rouse (and illicit a few votes from the brain-dead one doesn't wonder) its his banking background. He would, in short, f*ck the majority of this country for a few wealthy mates and backers.

Plus, and I personally find this quite important, he comes across as a right arrogant cuntface when he's on the telly. Like a walking Daily Mail headline. Like the bastard son of Richard Littlejohn and Melanie Phillips. Possibly with a bit of genes spliced from Peter Hitchen.

Christ alone knows what drugs you must be on to nod along sagely to him. Or put an X.

LLS?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Is Farage a near-racist? Is there such a thing? I had people near-lambasting me when I said that di Canio was a fascist, hence why I'm querying this.
That and the fact I'm thinking of voting for the scumbag's party, so I need to know what I'm letting myself in for.

I think so, but he's careful to avoid being entirely open, while offering nods and winks. In the dispiriting debate on QT about the coming 'floods' of Bulgarian and Romanian migrants he made icertain that we all knew that many of them were 'Roma' and that in recent times there had been a surge of crimes in London committed by Romanians... he didn't go as far as saying 'thieving gypsies' - but he gave us what passes for subtle guidance in his hands.

Far be it for me to defend the man, and I won't, but the most worrying aspect of Farage's background is not the right-wing/immigration shit he spouts to rabble rouse (and illicit a few votes from the brain-dead one doesn't wonder) its his banking background. He would, in short, f*ck the majority of this country for a few wealthy mates and backers.

Plus, and I personally find this quite important, he comes across as a right arrogant cuntface when he's on the telly. Like a walking Daily Mail headline. Like the bastard son of Richard Littlejohn and Melanie Phillips. Possibly with a bit of genes spliced from Peter Hitchen.

Christ alone knows what drugs you must be on to nod along sagely to him. Or put an X.

LLS?

Because I am absolutely flabbergasted by the other parties. Don't get me wrong, I cannot stand most shoite that UKIP spout, but as I've said my natural inclination is to vote Labour, but what's the point when they consistently come third in the constituency I live in. This way is a chance of cat among pigeons time. Is that not vaguely understandable? Or am I in fact losing the few marbles I had (sociopathically). I dunno anymore, but I really have begun to doubt this democracy shit - it strikes me more and more as propaganda to keep the plebs in place. I have no real world working alternative to democracy by the way. But...

[Hoboh]

I don't really understand the argument of a protest vote anyhow. "I'm protesting about politicians by voting for another politician".

I also don't buy the "they're all a useless set of self serving tossers" either. It's a massive cop out. Like in all walks of life, politicians will encompass the good, bad and ugly.

You can argue that the system we have that creates "career politicians" is wrong and that the likes of Richard Branson should directly run the country.

I also think in general, people blame politicians for a lot of things that aren't really their fault. There is the argument that most politicians don't have the first clue about the areas they try to politicise over. For example one could make a strong case (and I'd probably agree) that Michael Gove is not qualified to be Secretary of State for Education.

We have the system we've got. I don't think it's perfect and certainly could do with some changes. Proportional representation or a variant of, would be a start. Then the notion of "protest voting" would go. And people would genuinely feel more adequately and fairly represented based on their vote.

For me the majority of the time politicians set the tone for the country. They in effect send the message out but then it's up to civil servants/private industry/us/NHS etc to enact those policies. And often that is with mixed success, even taking the rights and wrongs of the initial decision away.

Reform is definitely needed. But I don't think saying all politicians are corrupt/self serving idiots then voting for a party fronted by Nigel Fecking Farage is anything short of sheer lunacy.

Well you bloody well would, wouldn't you! Seeing you think that anything other than a European led, Socialist Government being bummed by the unions whilst happily Nanning and regulating us all is the only way forward, then why should I be surprised at your opinion?

Its time for a change, Governments are always a bit of a let down but the last two have really took the piss. The labour lot Lied, found every which way they could to tax us, regulated on everything except their new found chums, the business sector, whom when let off the leash, came back to hump their leg. Worse still is they are full of Harriet Harper persons!

This lot are the weakest, most spineless of them all! Times are hard for some it maybe a few years down the line before they are affected, yet a lot of companies and are still turning in huge profits conveniently pushed into set asides for allsorts, so its not hard to understand someone is being ripped off and government intervention should be introduced. Europe should be told we renegotiate now or we will take a vote on leaving within 6 months, troops should all be on their way home from Afghanistan to prepare for our next trip to the desert and we should be hammering abusers of benefits, not the benefits their selves, over time a good few need changing not in two minutes.

Nige.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Far be it for me to defend the man, and I won't, but the most worrying aspect of Farage's background is not the right-wing/immigration shit he spouts to rabble rouse (and illicit a few votes from the brain-dead one doesn't wonder) its his banking background. He would, in short, f*ck the majority of this country for a few wealthy mates and backers.

Why is the fact that he has had a career in banking an automatically bad thing? I'm not a Farage fan, but I don't think I get this objection.

Something I see everyday is that a lot of politicians, especially at the European level where 5 or 6 major chunks of new finance legislation are currently being worked out, is that very few politicians understand the issues well enough to have a useful input on the question of how to put it right.

[Bruce Rioja]

Times are hard for some it maybe a few years down the line before they are affected, yet a lot of companies and are still turning in huge profits conveniently pushed into set asides for allsorts, so its not hard to understand someone is being ripped off and government intervention should be introduced.

Explain this. It sticks out, even by your standards, as absolute twaddle.

[BWFC_Insane]

Times are hard for some it maybe a few years down the line before they are affected, yet a lot of companies and are still turning in huge profits conveniently pushed into set asides for allsorts, so its not hard to understand someone is being ripped off and government intervention should be introduced.

Explain this. It sticks out, even by your standards, as absolute twaddle.

What's funny is that such an idea sounds quite close to a communist ideology.....

[William the White]

whilst happily Nanning and regulating us all ...

... they are full of Harriet Harper persons!

She's back...The Nanny... Hoboh returns to the secret obsession...

[Harry Genshaw]

Any wealthy pensioners on here going to follow IDS's suggestion and hand back their benefits?

[Bruce Rioja]

Any wealthy pensioners on here going to follow IDS's suggestion and hand back their benefits?

Happen wealthy pensioners have paid most in in the first place!

[Worthy4England]

whilst happily Nanning and regulating us all ...

... they are full of Harriet Harper persons!

She's back...The Nanny... Hoboh returns to the secret obsession...

Ella está de vuelta ... La niñera ... Hoboh vuelve a la obsesión secreta

I put some subtitles in there for you, Will.

[William the White]

whilst happily Nanning and regulating us all ...

... they are full of Harriet Harper persons!

She's back...The Nanny... Hoboh returns to the secret obsession...

Ella está de vuelta ... La niñera ... Hoboh vuelve a la obsesión secreta

I put some subtitles in there for you, Will.

Made me laugh out loud...