The Politics Thread

[Hoboh]

Our biggest concern has to be that for centuries the British people have been able to rub along with people from other cultures. We have been able to offer a home to Jews from Russia in the 19th century, the Irish, the Hugenots, and Afro-Caribbeans, Indian-Asians from Uganda. We had a golden opportunity to build a tolerant multi-racial society then the Left shut down any talk or rational discussion about immigration from the Indian sub continent - eg Pakistan and Bangladesh. They called Enoch Powell a racist and Nazi, which was a grotesque insult to a noble patriot with wartimne experience of India. His dire warnings of the perils that would come from increased immigration from the New Commonwealth were ignored and New Labour capitalised grabbing the immigrant vote by opening the flood gates. Anyone with two brain cells who travels around Britain could see the looming problem. This country does not belong to the British people any more. To change this you have to vote UKIP.
- Mike , Kirkbymoorside, United Kingdom, 06/5/2013 02:51
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that will be that nice mr powell proven right once again then. the whites are leaving because of the failure to integrate immigrants properly. they don't want to be british, they just want to live here.
- crazydave , gloucester, 06/5/2013 02:51
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What does it matter, the only difference between people of different colours is exactly that, they just have different levels of pigmentation, get over it! This study tells us nothing about how assimilated these people are...
- Social Democrat , Stockport, United Kingdom, 06/5/2013 02:50
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Well done, DM, for growing a spine to publish this uncomfortable truth. Meanwhile, our hopelessly incompetent Tory leader has moved the country further Left than many Labour governments would have been delighted with.
- David - Thailand , Chonburi, 06/5/2013 02:50
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Imagine how the people in Africa felt when the British enslaved and tortured them in their own country...
- moneyflipper , Uptown, 06/5/2013 02:48
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I would never want to live near Bolton.It looks really rough in some of those areas.No wonder some people are running.
- Tony , Wigan, 06/5/2013 02:48
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I wouldn't normally post things like this because I don't want a few of you lot having a coronary! But the last one made even me fume
That coming from a fat Pie eater really takes the rusk.

[Worthy4England]

[William the White]

Ken Clarke is ace, btw. So lets leave him out of this.

But seriously, The Tories will now be shitting it and will lurch to the right/anti-Europe in attempt to head off the fruitcakes of the UKIP. Genuinely, the world scares me. Its so self evident that UKIP are a bunch of time wasters that we shouldn't even be discussing them. I mean, really, what the f*ck?

^ this..

Farage is now strutting about saying he would work with the tories, but couldn't work with cameron... who the feck does he think he is???

He thinks he is The Saviour...

Don't know if you are familiar with this concept...

[as]

Farage is up against David Cameron, Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg - you could put Orville the Duck against them and he'd won votes (Keith Harris for PM!).

It's not Nigel's fault that we've got 3 cardboard toffs running the major parties, if they had their own houses in order there wouldn't be a UKIP.

Not strictly politics but everytime I see Nick Robinson I hope one day that he gets hit by lightning while he's live (literally) on air.....

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

What's wrong with Nick Robinson?

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Not the average commute home this evening... most of the journey I was sitting next to Ed Balls and his adviser. I put it to the Shadow Chancellor that when he 'famously' tweeted his name by mistake, what he must have been doing is trying to search for his own name. He denied it. Nice enough bloke though, disappointingly. They got off at Forest Hill - I wonder what takes him there.

[thebish]

Not the average commute home this evening... most of the journey I was sitting next to Ed Balls and his adviser. I put it to the Shadow Chancellor that when he 'famously' tweeted his name by mistake, what he must have been doing is trying to search for his own name. He denied it. Nice enough bloke though, disappointingly. They got off at Forest Hill - I wonder what takes him there.

why are you disappointed that he is a nice bloke?

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Not the average commute home this evening... most of the journey I was sitting next to Ed Balls and his adviser. I put it to the Shadow Chancellor that when he 'famously' tweeted his name by mistake, what he must have been doing is trying to search for his own name. He denied it. Nice enough bloke though, disappointingly. They got off at Forest Hill - I wonder what takes him there.

why are you disappointed that he is a nice bloke?

Because it makes for a less interesting story than if he'd behaved like the nice person he often comes across as on TV...

[thebish]

Not the average commute home this evening... most of the journey I was sitting next to Ed Balls and his adviser. I put it to the Shadow Chancellor that when he 'famously' tweeted his name by mistake, what he must have been doing is trying to search for his own name. He denied it. Nice enough bloke though, disappointingly. They got off at Forest Hill - I wonder what takes him there.

why are you disappointed that he is a nice bloke?

Because it makes for a less interesting story than if he'd behaved like the tw*t he often comes across as on TV...

never mind! I think it is more interesting when someone finds someone they might consider to be a political opponent actually to be a nice bloke rather than the more predictable story of meeting someone you might disagree with and predictably reporting that they are a tw*t....

[Montreal Wanderer]

Not the average commute home this evening... most of the journey I was sitting next to Ed Balls and his adviser. I put it to the Shadow Chancellor that when he 'famously' tweeted his name by mistake, what he must have been doing is trying to search for his own name. He denied it. Nice enough bloke though, disappointingly. They got off at Forest Hill - I wonder what takes him there.

why are you disappointed that he is a nice bloke?

Because it makes for a less interesting story than if he'd behaved like the tw*t he often comes across as on TV...

never mind! I think it is more interesting when someone finds someone they might consider to be a political opponent actually to be a nice bloke rather than the more predictable story of meeting someone you might disagree with and predictably reporting that they are a tw*t....

There were two people I did dislike on the basis of their political views and public personae - Lucien Bouchard, then premier of Quebec whose agenda was separation and independence, and Pierre Bourque, then mayor of Montreal. I ended up in conversation with both of them - the former at a champagne graduation party for his wife and the latter at a rubber chicken B'Nai Brith human rights dinner. I found them both intelligent and charismatic - which I suppose politicians generally are or their career is short. These people were painted as demagogues but, even if I disagreed fundamentally with their agenda, they struck me as democrats and willing to discuss hot button topics in a civil manner. Ultimately I rather liked them. I suppose it is possible I could like our current independentiste premier, Pauline Marois, if I had dinner with her - but I consider it unlikely.

[William the White]

Just taken out a 'supporters sub' to Freedom, the Anarchist paper that is the longest-living in the world - 125 years of publication.

They (Freedom Press - they publish Anarchist books and pamphlets as well as the paper) were the victims of a firebomb that was intended to put them out of business two months ago - friends of the EDL I guess... And I really don't like that...

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production. And, in any case, I don't want to see a libertarian socialist publication die.

So - I'll be back on the MI5 subversive list... Or they'll just add this one to the file they already have...

[thebish]

michael Gove = Rick Moranis from ghostbusters...

Moranis from Ghostbusters:



Michael Gove:

[Lord Kangana]

"We should get out of Europe.

Well maybe, you know at a later date.

In fact, I'm hoping we stay in Europe. Possibly. You know, in but out, out but in.

F*ck me, this briefing paper is difficult, what happens if anyone asks any questions?"

"Don't worry Michael, they'll be be as confused as you, just as long as we sound like UKIPLITE, that'll do the trick to bring all the red-faced/shaky-fisty/permanently enraged Mail readers back ."

[bobo the clown]

Just taken out a 'supporters sub' to Freedom, the Anarchist paper that is the longest-living in the world - 125 years of publication.

They (Freedom Press - they publish Anarchist books and pamphlets as well as the paper) were the victims of a firebomb that was intended to put them out of business two months ago - friends of the EDL I guess... And I really don't like that...

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production. And, in any case, I don't want to see a libertarian socialist publication die.

So - I'll be back on the MI5 subversive list... Or they'll just add this one to the file they already have...

You won't be the only closet Tory on there Billy.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production.

So what is it that you used to believe in but now don't?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production.

So what is it that you used to believe in but now don't?

Anarchy at a guess...

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production.

So what is it that you used to believe in but now don't?

Anarchy at a guess...

It seems to me that that term has a lot of connotations but is hard to pin down and define... which is why I was hoping William might explain what it is he used to believe in that made him and anarchist, but now doesn't.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production.

So what is it that you used to believe in but now don't?

Anarchy at a guess...

It seems to me that that term has a lot of connotations but is hard to pin down and define... which is why I was hoping William might explain what it is he used to believe in that made him and anarchist, but now doesn't.

The trouble with anarchy is there are no rules so you cannot impose your version of what you think anarchy is on anybody else's anarchist ideals.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

The trouble with anarchy is there are no rules

so you cannot impose your version of what you think anarchy is on anybody else's anarchist ideals.

No problem - I was just interested in William's version.

[mrkint]

I am not an anarchist (though i once was), but remain very attracted to ideas of freedom, equality and collective ownership and management of production.

So what is it that you used to believe in but now don't?

Anarchy at a guess...

It seems to me that that term has a lot of connotations but is hard to pin down and define... which is why I was hoping William might explain what it is he used to believe in that made him and anarchist, but now doesn't.

The trouble with anarchy is there are no rules so you cannot impose your version of what you think anarchy is on anybody else's anarchist ideals.

I've always wondered if anarchist organisations are actually a contradiction of themselves.