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Re: Dougie

Post by mrkint » Fri May 17, 2013 10:03 am

Young Douglas has won last month's manager of the month award. Hopefully the award's curse has already been taken care of in the shape of the Blackpool result.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri May 17, 2013 10:16 am

mrkint wrote:Young Douglas has won last month's manager of the month award. Hopefully the award's curse has already been taken care of in the shape of the Blackpool result.
What? Ahead of Mick McCarthy, Christian Gross and Billy the Fish? It's a fecking outrage!
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Post by mrkint » Fri May 17, 2013 10:24 am

Apparently Mike Bassett was a close second.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 17, 2013 10:34 am

Manager of the month for April. Awarded on the 17th of May.

Yeah right......

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 17, 2013 5:35 pm

Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........

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Post by bobo the clown » Fri May 17, 2013 5:53 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
Which made me take a look at this .... there are some unusual options on here. Maybe a day out, but worth a peep.

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Post by malcd1 » Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
Yes but 21/1 on Betyfair.

The favourite is still Poyet and I think there is a good chance he will be the next manager. Certainly out of the favourites he would be my choice.
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Post by jaffka » Fri May 17, 2013 6:41 pm

Martinez is being bandied about.

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Post by Wandering Willy » Fri May 17, 2013 9:23 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
I'll start the car.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri May 17, 2013 9:33 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
Mick McCarthy must be evens then?! :shock:
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Post by gizmothevoomer » Fri May 17, 2013 9:44 pm

Next manager betting markets, are not huge for bookmakers and relatively small amounts of money ( A couple of hundred pounds will dramatically alter odds ). Given events of past 24 hours Gus Poyet has shortened massively today, suspect no announcement will be made at Everton till early June.

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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat May 18, 2013 1:25 pm

gizmothevoomer wrote:Next manager betting markets, are not huge for bookmakers and relatively small amounts of money ( A couple of hundred pounds will dramatically alter odds ). Given events of past 24 hours Gus Poyet has shortened massively today, suspect no announcement will be made at Everton till early June.
i think its almost certain that poyet will head for everton and it would make no sense for freedman to leave bolton at this point.He needs to achieve things here to prove what happened at palace was not a one off and when he does no doubt there will be times when he gets linked with other jobs.

I havent bothered posting for a while but I've followed things on here. It feels to me that Freedman is taking the club in the right direction. After the black comedy farce of coyles last year its refreshing to see some sense of professionalism return to the club. Course he will make mistakes. He's tried to change things tactically but maybe hasnt had the personel to make it work. At least it shows a willingness to approach games with flexibility and a bit of thought. When it's not worked he's changed it sharpish.

Laughed my tits off when BeLend3 returned to have a bleat after we missed out on playoffs on goal difference.His stance has always been pure WuM. I doubt very much that he is really a Bolton fan at all.

Anyway have a great summer everybody and personally I'm glad we have a season to put together a stronger team and be challenging at the top end of the championship to look forward to. Had we scraped through in the playoffs it would have been too early to get this squad to the standard needed to make a fist of things in the premiership. Another year of professional management and good signings should mean that this time next year we could be in the premiership and in with a chance of staying there.

Prfemier league is one of the dullest leagues in the world now though. Far more interesting yoyoing between the prem and the championship as we are likely to do than to be an established non runner like those out of the "big" 5 will always be from here on

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Re: Dougie

Post by officer_dibble » Sat May 18, 2013 2:31 pm

In fairness to bl3 he has posted none wum comments in the past which said to me he is very much a bwfc fan.

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Post by ChrisC » Sat May 18, 2013 2:35 pm

officer_dibble wrote:In fairness to bl3 he has posted none wum comments in the past which said to me he is very much a bwfc fan.
In that case, who needs away fans when we have fans like that!?

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Re: Dougie

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat May 18, 2013 2:39 pm

Not my impression but I'll take your word for it! Always felt to me like he was just desperate to try and create an arguement and only interested in being negative. Hard to understand for me as a lifelong fan. Used to hoping for the best and trying to believe in whoever comes in and we've had some duffers in our time. Part of being a fan for me is backing the team and manager until they prove not up to it. That's not what was going on. Anyway it's all good. Itg's good to read the forum, someone usually comes along and says what I'd say anyway so ne need for me to get drawn in. I'm optimistic about the way things are going now :)

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Re: Dougie

Post by Worthy4England » Sat May 18, 2013 6:18 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
I'll start the car.
I'm not convinced yet that he's the messiah or owt, but he's not done anything at the moment that would suggest to me, we should shunt him?

Or do you just need someone else contoversial to bleat on about now Davo's left?

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Worthy4England wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
I'll start the car.
I'm not convinced yet that he's the messiah or owt, but he's not done anything at the moment that would suggest to me, we should shunt him?

Or do you just need someone else contoversial to bleat on about now Davo's left?
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun May 19, 2013 10:44 am

Wandering Willy wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie down to 5/1 on ladbrokes to be the next Everton manager........
I'll start the car.
I'm not convinced yet that he's the messiah or owt, but he's not done anything at the moment that would suggest to me, we should shunt him?

Or do you just need someone else contoversial to bleat on about now Davo's left?
That's a keeper. :mrgreen:
Seriously though, you'd get rid? :D

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Re: Dougie

Post by Wandering Willy » Mon May 20, 2013 7:29 am

Probably in the same boat as you Worthy.

Not convinced but no reason to get rid yet.
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Re: Dougie

Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon May 20, 2013 3:38 pm

I still have a few doubts about Freedman and I'm not as high on him as a lot of fans on ehre are. I think a lot of last seasons good run was fortunate. How many games were we fully in control of? How many could we have easily lost? How many did we genuinely deserve to win?

Looking at our very good run, Brighton were better than us. We got a very late goal against Blackburn. Were we really much better than Huddersfield or Peterborough? Had things not gone our way against Boro, would we have won? I don't know. I don't like to use the word "luck" because I think it's oversimplifies it, but I think a lot of the opposition fans would say that they were unlucky not to get a draw or even a win against us. I think Wolves and Hull's fans would have come away saying that they were beaten by a better side but how many other fans would say the same thing?

I also think there's an issue with our away form which Freedman didn't address. Freedman was in charge for 16 away games and in that time, we only got 13 points. That's 2 wins, 7 draws and 7 losses, with those two wins coming against Bristol City, who finished bottom of the league, and Barnsley, who escaped relegation by a point. That's a major issue and it's enough to make me worried about Freedman's managerial ability.

On the plus side, our defence has improved and we look a lot sturdier and harder to break down at the back. I don't like buying into buzzwords too much, but I'm optimistic about bringing back a scientific approach to fitness and there's part of me which does believe the club is on the right road. I just think a lot of our fans exaggerate our run of results. It's brilliant to win x amount of games in a row but it's going to be hard to reproduce that next season, unless we improve as a team because I think we were very fortunate at times last year.

In the transfer window, Freedman has been hit and miss. Dawson and Medo were both very good signings but De Ridder was dreadful, Butterfield was so bad he was booed and Hall was poor in the only game he played too. Davies is alright and we've not seen Gregus or Bolger yet. I think it's fair to say it's a 50/50. Freedman might have an eye for talent, as we saw with Dawson, but bringing in Butterfield and De Ridder would argue against that. For me, he still needs to prove himself in this area and at the moment, I certainly wouldn't put a lot of trust into his signings.

I'm not pessimistic about Freedman but if a big club came in for him, which they won't do, then I wouldn't be too bothered if he left. My biggest concern wouldn't be losing Freedman, it'd be finding a replacement because I don't think there's much quality out there. Our fans would roll their eyes at McCarthy, despite him doing a better job than Freedman did with us with a far inferior squad. Maybe someone like David Flitcroft? I don't suppose it's worth thinking about because, like I said, no Premier League club will come in for Freedman.

As always, I'm a Wanderer and I'm optimistic. I hope I'm wrong to suggest we relied on luck at times, and I hope that this season, we improve our away form. I'd like nothing more than to be shitting myself at the prospect of Freedman leaving us next year, so lets hope that with a full transfer window, money to spend, new training regimes and a better sense of team spirit, we can build on the progress we've already made and push for promotion next year.

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