Standing at football - wasn't sure if this goes in GB

[TKIZ!]

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[Annoyed Grunt]

Personally, I'm all for it..

[Prufrock]

I'm not sure. I'm for the principle, and I'd be all for it if it was safe, which would presumably be no problem at grounds like ours. Not sure about how it would work in the older, more decrepit grounds.

[bobo the clown]

The opposition fans stand at away ends throughout games. It MUST be less safe doing that where there are seats in the space than if there were properly designed areas.

[LeverEnd]

The opposition fans stand at away ends throughout games. It MUST be less safe doing that where there are seats in the space than if there were properly designed areas.

Exactly, I sat at barnsley for short periods but at most grounds away tthis season everyone stood. The place I most wanted to sit (with head in hands) was ironically at peterborough, which still has old style terracing.
As for older more decrepit grounds, it won't make any difference, as health and safety will be all over it.

[Relentless09]

A lot of people are for standing but what about those against it ? How would it be regulated ? Surely certain sections of the stadium would have to be just for standing and I doubt health and safety would allow it to be in the upper tiers e.g. St James's Park away section comes to mind.

I'm for it but I can't see how it would be implemented.

[TKIZ!]

Using the same system that the Germans use which is a kind of folding seat thing. I think the Independent used pics of it in the article. Limiting the amount of tickets sold

[bobo the clown]

Interestingly Liverpool fans stand as much as anyone .... yet squeal like stuck pigs if anyone proposes the return to standing areas.

Funny buggers football fans.

[Enoch]

All seater stadium was one way to address a few issues that were in need of addressing, I never felt it was the best answer.

Modern computer modelling and better planning of the areas surrounding stadiums would allow far safer and more efficient ways of moving people around than was available in 1990. Better intelligence and policing has eradicated most of the violent nonsense once associated with English football. The broad brush approach that is all seater just panders to the nanny within the state.

It may be a preference for some, but I don't think I've ever been to a professional football match where those that wished to sit couldn't choose to do so. For me standing is the natural position from which to watch your team play, squirming in your seat is for the stay at home sofa dweller that doesn't have the passion.

This based on little more than a vague notion at the back of my head, but doesn't the Bundesliga have the largest gates in European football? They don't have all seater and I cannot remember ever hearing of it being a problem.

I'm all for a return to common sense and a cracking atmosphere inside football grounds, though I expect to be disappointed.

[Lord Kangana]

Interestingly Liverpool fans stand as much as anyone .... yet squeal like stuck pigs if anyone proposes the return to standing areas.

Funny buggers football fans.

What, all of them?

Because I recall in the wake of Hillsborough that a group of them were against all-seater stadia. precisely because they didn't believe that terracing as such was to blame for the disaster. And that all-seater stadia were simply white-washing the issue.

[bobo the clown]

Interestingly Liverpool fans stand as much as anyone .... yet squeal like stuck pigs if anyone proposes the return to standing areas.

Funny buggers football fans.

What, all of them?

Because I recall in the wake of Hillsborough that a group of them were against all-seater stadia. precisely because they didn't believe that terracing as such was to blame for the disaster. And that all-seater stadia were simply white-washing the issue.

Well, I clearly can't answer for them all. However they are amongst the most vocal if ever the subject is raised.

[Lord Kangana]

A quick look through their forums would suggest that the debate is as healthy as here. Plenty for, some against.

Perhaps you just don't like scousers?

[Enoch]

Who does!

[Lord Kangana]

Thats fine, but lets not confuse issues.

[bobo the clown]

A quick look through their forums would suggest that the debate is as healthy as here. Plenty for, some against.

Perhaps you just don't like scousers?

Damn. I am found out.

No, I don't .... but the relevance in this instance is the scale of the contradiction and the level of the angst when it's so much as mentioned.

There are differing views everywhere, I guess, just that this lot go on like you're planning to repeat Hillsborough whilst at the same time the fans at games then act like nothing ever happened ... yet will be the first with the book of remembrance signings and the memorials and the flower laying and the banner waving.

[Gooner Girl]

I like standing and my friend has a season ticket at the back lower stand at the Emirates so if I go with her on that we quite often stand most of the match but, for us short arses, sometimes the view is a bit limited when everyone stands so i'm in two minds on this one...

[thebish]

I like standing and my friend has a season ticket at the back lower stand at the Emirates so if I go with her on that we quite often stand most of the match but, for us short arses, sometimes the view is a bit limited when everyone stands so i'm in two minds on this one...

next time we go - i'll stand and i'll pop you into my top pocket... should be a good view from there... (or I could sit you on top of my flat cap..)

[Gooner Girl]

I like standing and my friend has a season ticket at the back lower stand at the Emirates so if I go with her on that we quite often stand most of the match but, for us short arses, sometimes the view is a bit limited when everyone stands so i'm in two minds on this one...

next time we go - i'll stand and i'll pop you into my top pocket... should be a good view from there... (or I could sit you on top of my flat cap..)

I'll happily sit on your shoulders hun, but I might be a bit heavy despite my shortness!

Good to know you're prepared to watch Arsenal come and play someone that isn't Bolton anyway.

[NP44]

I'm all for standing, if it was to happen North Stand lower would be okish. Can't quite see it being like the Burnden Paddock though, those under a certain age have missed out.. Paddock was a good crack.

[Worthy4England]

I'm all for standing, if it was to happen North Stand lower would be okish. Can't quite see it being like the Burnden Paddock though, those under a certain age have missed out.. Paddock was a good crack.

I think you'll find a few that can still remember the 58 Cup Final, let alone the Burnden Paddock.

I was in the Paddock for the Everton and Arsenal games about the time you started going - both of which I seem to recall we were over the 50,000 mark.