bloody norah... :-(

[Relentless09]

The leader of the EDL was set to be on some programme tonight but it was canceled....... Are the government scared ?

[thebish]

The leader of the EDL was set to be on some programme tonight but it was canceled....... Are the government scared ?

the government???

[Lord Kangana]

Help For Heroes are also running scared of them apparently, too.

[Relentless09]

The leader of the EDL was set to be on some programme tonight but it was canceled....... Are the government scared ?

the government???

It's a bit strange a regular BBC show has been canceled and it so happens to be the night who ever you call him is meant to be on. Conspiracy ?

[TANGODANCER]

look, Hoboh.. you are clearly well read on the Human Rights Act - and it always sounds like you want to get rid of bits... often I think you want to scrap it altogether - but today you said you are in favour of human rights..

so - genuine question..

which bits of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms would you keep and which would you scrap?

Ok, I will get back to you on this one soon. Right now my priority is a bench near Marks & Sparks for an early brekkie.

nice glass of Strongbow?

Strongbow Will? With Marks and Sparks no more than 75 paces from the cider empire of the north?

What's that? Crazy Horse's garage?

Ye Olde Man and Scythe, Monty. (which you probably knew anyway).

[thebish]

The leader of the EDL was set to be on some programme tonight but it was canceled....... Are the government scared ?

the government???

It's a bit strange a regular BBC show has been canceled and it so happens to be the night who ever you call him is meant to be on. Conspiracy ?

which "show"?

[Relentless09]

BBC Newsnight, my mistake he was canceled not the actual show but he was only told earlier today.

[Hoboh]

Ok to be scrapped

Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

SECTION II EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS

ARTICLE 32 Jurisdiction of the Court
1. The jurisdiction of the Court shall extend to all matters concerning the interpretation and application of the Convention and the Protocols thereto which are referred to it as provided in Articles 33, 34, 46 and 47.
2. In the event of dispute as to whether the Court has jurisdiction, the Court shall decide.

Protocol No. 4 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms securing certain rights and freedoms other than those already included in the Convention and in the First Protocol thereto

ARTICLE 1 Prohibition of imprisonment for debt
No one shall be deprived of his liberty merely on the ground of No one shall be deprived of his liberty merely on the ground of inability to fulfil a contractual obligation.

ARTICLE 4 Prohibition of collective expulsion of aliens
Collective expulsion of aliens is prohibited.

Protocol No. 13 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms concerning the abolition of the death penalty in all circumstances.

Then there is this

Protocol No. 7
to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms

ARTICLE 1 Procedural safeguards relating to expulsion of aliens
1. An alien lawfully resident in the territory of a State shall not be expelled therefrom except in pursuance of a decision reached in accordance with law and shall be allowed:
(a) to submit reasons against his expulsion,
(b) to have his case reviewed, and
(c) to be represented for these purposes before the competent authority or a person or persons designated by that authority

2. An alien may be expelled before the exercise of his rights under paragraph 1.a, b and c of this Article, when such expulsion is necessary in the interests of public order or is grounded on reasons of national security.

So how the hell is Qatada and his ilk getting away with staying here? I have read the dammed thing 4 times and cannot find any justification for him still being in the country!
Well I can half guess that some numb nut somewhere granted him abode here thus he is probably covered by

Protocol No. 4 to the Convention
for the Protection of Human Rights
and Fundamental Freedoms
securing certain rights and freedoms
other than those already included
in the Convention
and in the First Protocol thereto

ARTICLE 3 Prohibition of expulsion of nationals
1. No one shall be expelled, by means either of an individual
or of a collective measure, from the territory of the State of which he is a national.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Ok to be scrapped

Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

SECTION II EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS

ARTICLE 32 Jurisdiction of the Court
1. The jurisdiction of the Court shall extend to all matters concerning the interpretation and application of the Convention and the Protocols thereto which are referred to it as provided in Articles 33, 34, 46 and 47.
2. In the event of dispute as to whether the Court has jurisdiction, the Court shall decide.

Protocol No. 4 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms securing certain rights and freedoms other than those already included in the Convention and in the First Protocol thereto

ARTICLE 1 Prohibition of imprisonment for debt
No one shall be deprived of his liberty merely on the ground of No one shall be deprived of his liberty merely on the ground of inability to fulfil a contractual obligation.

ARTICLE 4 Prohibition of collective expulsion of aliens
Collective expulsion of aliens is prohibited.

Protocol No. 13 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms concerning the abolition of the death penalty in all circumstances.

Then there is this

Protocol No. 7
to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms

ARTICLE 1 Procedural safeguards relating to expulsion of aliens
1. An alien lawfully resident in the territory of a State shall not be expelled therefrom except in pursuance of a decision reached in accordance with law and shall be allowed:
(a) to submit reasons against his expulsion,
(b) to have his case reviewed, and
(c) to be represented for these purposes before the competent authority or a person or persons designated by that authority

2. An alien may be expelled before the exercise of his rights under paragraph 1.a, b and c of this Article, when such expulsion is necessary in the interests of public order or is grounded on reasons of national security.

So how the hell is Qatada and his ilk getting away with staying here? I have read the dammed thing 4 times and cannot find any justification for him still being in the country!
Well I can half guess that some numb nut somewhere granted him abode here thus he is probably covered by

Protocol No. 4 to the Convention
for the Protection of Human Rights
and Fundamental Freedoms
securing certain rights and freedoms
other than those already included
in the Convention
and in the First Protocol thereto

ARTICLE 3 Prohibition of expulsion of nationals
1. No one shall be expelled, by means either of an individual
or of a collective measure, from the territory of the State of which he is a national.

He's not a National. He never has been and never will be.

(Ooops...

I'm leaving again. Wandered on here by mistake).

[Hoboh]

Labour leader Ed Miliband on Saturday joined celebrities and thousands of others in signing a letter to a newspaper in protest at far-right groups using the death of Drummer Rigby for their own agenda. The letter was signed by stars including Eddie Izzard, union bosses including TUC general secretary Frances O'Grady, politicians and leaders of Islamic, Jewish and Christian organisations

Later Mr Miliband confessed that he was "Slightly disappointed", a letter condemning the court allowing Abu Qatada to remain in the UK" which was also signed by the Biscuit Union general secretary Frances O'Grady along with a couple of politicians including 'Gorgeous George Galloway' and several 'D' list celebrity's, appeared to have got "lost in the post".

I must point out that I unreservedly condemn any attacks, threats or abuse upon any building or person of any nationality, colour or religion in this country, if you don't get that then don't come to planet hoboh

[seanworth]

I like how you put buildings before people.

[thebish]

[Hoboh]

I like how you put buildings before people.

Bloody Norah, I'm outa this thread!

[davroduk]

I like how you put buildings before people.

Bloody Norah, I'm outa this thread!

I went days ago.

[Bruce Rioja]

The Westboro Baptist Church, Ladies and Gentlemen.......

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[Montreal Wanderer]

The Westboro Baptist Church, Ladies and Gentlemen.......

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/11/west ... puNKcRdWSq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They are not too fond of Canada either... but I doubt one in fifty people could even tell you what state Westboro is in (Kansas to stop any competition). So I think it best to ignore these loonies.

[Hoboh]

Lordy, lordy!

[malcd1]

GOD HATES FAGS!!!.

So do I. You smokers ought to be ashamed of yourselves for causing this accident.

[thebish]

westboro have been getting on the tits of ordinary christians for many years... back in the day they had a website that celebrated the deaths of people killed in gay-bashing incidents and published pictures of them surrounded by flames suggesting that they were now burning in hell... it has fuelled an industry of westboro-mocking, my favourite example of which is this:



laughing at jerks is (I think) the best way of dealing with them...

[Bruce Rioja]

^ Brilliant.