The Great Art Debate

[thebish]

is she called Nina? or Angelina?

I'm at a loss on that question, thebish. I don't know from where it's coming...

Lincoln County Road or Armageddon?

Enlighten?

Nina - pretty ballerina - Abba song (1973) - a "pop song" I believe they call it

Angelina Ballerina - a fictional mouse-ballerina from a set of children's books in the early 1980s - later a set of comics and a tv show, I believe..

you really should expand your cultural horizons!!

[thebish]

the missus left some washing out in the rain - cos it was already wet...

anyway - just glanced out of the window to see that a gust of wind has recreated a very passable impression of Miro's ballerina in my back garden...

[William the White]

the missus left some washing out in the rain - cos it was already wet...

anyway - just glanced out of the window to see that a gust of wind has recreated a very passable impression of Miro's ballerina in my back garden...

Miro leads and it takes 90 years for nature to (fail to) catch up...

Another victory for art...

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

We have an exhibition on in London at the moment that I haven't yet had chance to visit.

The great Brian is not a fan: http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/exhi ... 87142.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Personally I think there is a kinship with Bruegel and I am not much exercised by whether Lowry was actually influenced by seeing pictures by Bruegel or came up with his cinematic viewpoint all on his own.

Sure, he's possibly over-venerated in some quarters, but I don't feel the need to push back against that as hard as Sewell does.

Though I do understand the charge that Lowry pictures are repetitive. I feel the same in a room full of Canalettos - that distinctive light it so consistent and unchanging that I quickly lose interest. I think the story of British and European art of the 20th century needs at least one pciture by Lowry... but I wouldn't be rushing to include many more.

[William the White]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

I'm a fan.

He shows a world that needed showing, with truth, heart and humour.

[TANGODANCER]

Lowry is sort of a historian artist who recorded the industrial and local every-day life aspects of his own era. Minute detail wasn't his thing in the strict sense, recording what he saw was, in a simple impressionist sort of way. In what he did he was good, a lthough I imagine local stuff - as in "Going to the match" - was a factor in his fan appeal.

[thebish]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

i've always liked lowry - but then i've always liked grim-looking industrial landscapes in art...

i think you're right that several rooms full would soon lead to a drop-off in impact... but I've never viewed several rooms full - so that's a guess - i'd be interested to hear if that turns out to be the case..

after a while - he looks a bit like the grim-up-north version of where's wally!

[bobo the clown]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

i've always liked lowry - but then i've always liked grim-looking industrial landscapes in art...

i think you're right that several rooms full would soon lead to a drop-off in impact... but I've never viewed several rooms full - so that's a guess - i'd be interested to hear if that turns out to be the case..

after a while - he looks a bit like the grim-up-north version of where's wally!

The permanent exhibition in Salford shows a greater variety than the usual 'matchstalk men' we always see. Also, as is often the case, they are far better in real time than photo images allow for.

That said, I do tend to the 'Where's Wally' view more than the English Bruegel .... then again I'm a massive fan of Flemish art. Not lazy, you see ... fill in all the corners.

[Bruce Rioja]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

I think his stuff is absolutely dreadful. No idea of perspective, linear or otherwise, and shows little vestige of painting talent anywhere. Went to an exhibition of his some years ago at Salford Uni and discovered that he actually got worse with age.

Take a look at the roofless Lever End on Going To The Match. It's laughable.

[thebish]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

I think his stuff is absolutely dreadful. No idea of perspective, linear or otherwise whatsoever. Went to an exhibition of his some years ago at Salford Uni and discovered that he actually got worse with age.

Take a look at the roofless Lever End on Going To The Match. It's laughable.

are you sure it's not a disgrace!!

[Bruce Rioja]

So where do we all stand on Lowry?

I think his stuff is absolutely dreadful. No idea of perspective, linear or otherwise whatsoever. Went to an exhibition of his some years ago at Salford Uni and discovered that he actually got worse with age.

Take a look at the roofless Lever End on Going To The Match. It's laughable.

are you sure it's not a disgrace!!

It's that too

[thebish]

I think he knew what he was doing... I have always liked his self-portrait..

[bobo the clown]

I think he knew what he was doing... I have always liked his self-portrait..

That looks nothing like him !



See ... he's miles older than that !!

[thebish]

^ that's clearly you Bobo - nice try!

[Bruce Rioja]

I think he knew what he was doing... I have always liked his self-portrait..

Michael Vaughn's?

[William the White]

^ that's clearly you Bobo - nice try!

You know, that is the spitting image of bobo. That's his happy face on a sunny day.

[TANGODANCER]

Mr Darcy in Hyde Park.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23225149" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[William the White]

Mr Darcy in Hyde Park.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23225149" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well the artist certainly hit bulls eye with that one...

[Prufrock]

Looks like it'd be as good at acting.

[TANGODANCER]

Looks like it'd be as good at acting.

You mean as Firth? I like him. Great in the King's Speech and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Did Darrcy very well too, for me. The whole lake scene was a BBC thing and never happened in the book. Try telling that to half-a-million women though.