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Re: General Chit Chat

Post by Athers » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:46 am

Definitely one of the weirder feminist campaigns to demand that at least one of four people on a banknote is a woman. I hardly think a 10 year old girl will be inspired by whoever is on the tenner... More interested in having a tenner I'll bet.

If I were Mark Carney I'd say that probably some 95% of traditionally 'great' Britons were men, so you won't have a chick on all the time, sorry :D
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Post by thebish » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:01 am

Prufrock wrote:Not enough wimmin on the banknotes. Just, bear with me, imagine seeing a banknote with a Dorris' face on it!
there's a woman on every single banknote - and coin and stamp, for that matter!!

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:02 am

Is the queens face on every note not enough for bitchez these dayz?
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:07 am

[quote="boltonboris"]Is the queens face on every note not enough for bitchez these dayz?[/quote]


Building up for the abdication. Continuity and all that.

Couldn't give a toss who's on the banknote. Very much concerned as to it's value relative to other currencies. Fin

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Post by Prufrock » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:16 am

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Not enough wimmin on the banknotes. Just, bear with me, imagine seeing a banknote with a Dorris' face on it!
there's a woman on every single banknote - and coin and stamp, for that matter!!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:26 am

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Not enough wimmin on the banknotes. Just, bear with me, imagine seeing a banknote with a Dorris' face on it!
there's a woman on every single banknote - and coin and stamp, for that matter!!
Is she an actual woman though? I mean has anyone checked? For sure and verified?

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:14 am

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Prufrock wrote:Not enough wimmin on the banknotes. Just, bear with me, imagine seeing a banknote with a Dorris' face on it!
there's a woman on every single banknote - and coin and stamp, for that matter!!
Is she an actual woman though? I mean has anyone checked? For sure and verified?
Well she gave birth, and nobody, I mean nobody, would claim Charles as their own unless they actually had given birth to it.
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thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Not enough wimmin on the banknotes. Just, bear with me, imagine seeing a banknote with a Dorris' face on it!
there's a woman on every single banknote - and coin and stamp, for that matter!!
Is she an actual woman though? I mean has anyone checked? For sure and verified?
Well she gave birth, and nobody, I mean nobody, would claim Charles as their own unless they actually had given birth to it.
Supposedly. Though I've seen pictures of "her" ankles. I think babies were sourced elsewhere and smuggled through the backdoor of the hospital. Fake pregnancy suit and all.

I mean in those days it would have been even easier.

I still think nobody can be sure. It's like Thatcher was a supposed woman. I'm less than convinced.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:21 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Not enough wimmin on the banknotes. Just, bear with me, imagine seeing a banknote with a Dorris' face on it!
there's a woman on every single banknote - and coin and stamp, for that matter!!
Is she an actual woman though? I mean has anyone checked? For sure and verified?
Well she gave birth, and nobody, I mean nobody, would claim Charles as their own unless they actually had given birth to it.
Supposedly. Though I've seen pictures of "her" ankles. I think babies were sourced elsewhere and smuggled through the backdoor of the hospital. Fake pregnancy suit and all.

I mean in those days it would have been even easier.

I still think nobody can be sure. It's like Thatcher was a supposed woman. I'm less than convinced.
I'm with you on the later point. I have said before that Thatcher made me think David Icke might have been on to something, but the Queen was observed and everything; she doesn't even put on her own jammies, she has three chambermaids to do it for her. If it was a conspiracy someone woulda blabbed by now.
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Post by Athers » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:22 am

They've done it before! Who was it who was the WARMING PAN baby? One of the James' if memories of history GCSE are roughly right
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:25 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
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Prufrock wrote:F*ck you Darwin. We don't want any more of your sort.
Yeah !!!
Let's put some bint who wrote 6 books in her whole life on there ... especially as they were all more or less identical.
And two hundred years after she wrote them they're still all best sellers. King George the third asked for one of them to be dedicated to him and Jane Austen is still considered one of England's greatest lierary talents today. I'd say that's not bad going. :wink:
Most likely the same artsy people that try to tell us paintings like this are deep and meaningful or some other shite, when they are quite patently just shit.

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'Experts' in the arts are almost always full of shit. Same as the football experts tell us the latest flavour of the month is the greatest ever after the ball hit their arse and went in the net.
I find this an odd place to make this point.

Jane Austen is 'popular', whatever the significance of that is, and has been for some time. Her reputation is not based on the critical response of a small literary elite.
Athers wrote:Definitely one of the weirder feminist campaigns to demand that at least one of four people on a banknote is a woman. I hardly think a 10 year old girl will be inspired by whoever is on the tenner... More interested in having a tenner I'll bet.

If I were Mark Carney I'd say that probably some 95% of traditionally 'great' Britons were men, so you won't have a chick on all the time, sorry :D
I actually disagree with you for a change. I too doubt there is much potential for a banknote to do anything as grand as 'inspiring' a 10 year old girl in itself, but a culture in which the visibility of women being celebrated for achieving things is very low only goes to perpetuate the (unhelpful) imbalance that makes your 95% a conservative estimate.
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Post by Beefheart » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:22 am

There are just a lot more women in British history more deserving of being on a tenner than one who wrote a few books. In fact, on that criteria alone J K Rowling is more deserving.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:43 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote: Most likely the same artsy people that try to tell us paintings like this are deep and meaningful or some other shite, when they are quite patently just shit.

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'Experts' in the arts are almost always full of shit. Same as the football experts tell us the latest flavour of the month is the greatest ever after the ball hit their arse and went in the net.
Not the best comparison A.T. I like Jane Austen's works from a historical point of view. Not equally, I'll admit and Pride and Prejudice is way ahead of the rest. She filled in a historical chapter in literature. Dickens did Victorian grit and poverty as did Catherine Cookson a little later, the Brontes a sort of dark halfway world and Jane Austen the privelleged upper/middle class, but her views poked fun at a lot of it whilst highlighting some serious issues like property entailment and class snobbery . Whilst she used romance as a background theme, she was no pink nonesense author. Austen was pure black and white. To be fair, you can only censure her if you've read her stuff thoroughly. I have. I confess no shame in having a copy of Pride and Prejudice never far away. Takes all sorts. :wink:
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:24 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: I find this an odd place to make this point.

Jane Austen is 'popular', whatever the significance of that is, and has been for some time. Her reputation is not based on the critical response of a small literary elite.
I was responding to TD's assertion that Austen is considered one of the literary greats. Who put her on that pedestal other than the literary elite?

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:25 pm

Jade Goody for the fiver!
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:40 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote: Most likely the same artsy people that try to tell us paintings like this are deep and meaningful or some other shite, when they are quite patently just shit.

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'Experts' in the arts are almost always full of shit. Same as the football experts tell us the latest flavour of the month is the greatest ever after the ball hit their arse and went in the net.
Not the best comparison A.T. I like Jane Austen's works from a historical point of view. Not equally, I'll admit and Pride and Prejudice is way ahead of the rest. She filled in a historical chapter in literature. Dickens did Victorian grit and poverty as did Catherine Cookson a little later, the Brontes a sort of dark halfway world and Jane Austen the privelleged upper/middle class, but her views poked fun at a lot of it whilst highlighting some serious issues like property entailment and class snobbery . Whilst she used romance as a background theme, she was no pink nonesense author. Austen was pure black and white. To be fair, you can only censure her if you've read her stuff thoroughly. I have. I confess no shame in having a copy of Pride and Prejudice never far away. Takes all sorts. :wink:
Each to their own Tango. I can respect the fact people like her books, but I don't think her a literary great and certainly way down the list of women from history that deserve recognition. I find the arts being more about bandwagon jumping than owt else when it comes to the elite. The real greats are the ones change the way we think, view or do things. I don't believe Austen has done that.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:40 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: I find this an odd place to make this point.

Jane Austen is 'popular', whatever the significance of that is, and has been for some time. Her reputation is not based on the critical response of a small literary elite.
I was responding to TD's assertion that Austen is considered one of the literary greats. Who put her on that pedestal other than the literary elite?
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:41 pm

boltonboris wrote:Jade Goody for the fiver!
She'd be on the Pound Note - lower class, and defunct.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:43 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: I find this an odd place to make this point.

Jane Austen is 'popular', whatever the significance of that is, and has been for some time. Her reputation is not based on the critical response of a small literary elite.
I was responding to TD's assertion that Austen is considered one of the literary greats. Who put her on that pedestal other than the literary elite?
Popular opinion!
Who though? Who has pronounced this popularity? Was there a survey? Did I miss it?

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Post by thebish » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:50 pm

in 2012, Jane Austen didn't appear in the top 50 most borrowed authors from UK libraries - nor did any of her books appear in the top 250 most-borrowed books from UK libraries...

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