The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

[PC1978]

Dawson was at Radcliffe Borough? How did this escape my attention before?

Sign him up now Dougie!! Sell the West Stand if you have to!

Sell the North stand instead. It's worth more now with all them Xboxes in it!

All 4 of them!! And don't forget the popeye video too!

[LeverEnd]

Bloody well hope so...

MATT Mills and Tyrone Mears look like being the next two big names allowed to leave the Reebok.

Dougie Freedman is determined to do more business but may have to wait and see if Leeds United and Millwall firm up their interest in the two defenders before the transfer window shuts on September 2.

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[Bruce Rioja]

I'm far from convinced that letting Mears go is a good thing to do.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

That BN report isn't really saying owt new. Even the "sources close to the player" are basically saying "Phew, Leeds didn't sign Greer".

Bruce, letting Mears go must show desperation at our wage bill, or confidence in Hayden White as back-up... as noted, DF gave Mears a fair crack last season and Tyrone seemed to be getting better all the time, but you sense things have turned for him: fans baiting him, manager playing him at right-wing then pimping him out...

Like I say, I think we're past the days of two senior professionals for each position – but it's interesting that we might end up with only two recognised full-backs (both brand new).

[ChrisC]

I'm far from convinced that letting Mears go is a good thing to do.

Word on the street is that Dougie is after a defender who can play right across the back line

If that fails that he has a full back in his sights.

[freeindeed]

I'm far from convinced that letting Mears go is a good thing to do.

Word on the street is that Dougie is after a defender who can play right across the back line

If that fails that he has a full back in his sights.

[Prufrock]

If we could shift Ream Mills and Mears for Dawson and a cheapo one who could cover both full back spots we'd be laughing. Not sure it's doable though.

[boltonboris]

I'd be worried Bout shipping Mears. Personally. I'd start him at RB with Baptiste in the middle.

[boltonboris]

So many times there was gaping space in the right flank in the first 2 games, just begging for a full back to get into. But he seems hesitant to get forward. For me, he's (baptiste) a centre back playing at full back. It doesn't really work, unless you have exceptional wingers. It's killing our width. That's been evident in the first 2 games.

[BWFC_Insane]

So many times there was gaping space in the right flank in the first 2 games, just begging for a full back to get into. But he seems hesitant to get forward. For me, he's (baptiste) a centre back playing at full back. It doesn't really work, unless you have exceptional wingers. It's killing our width. That's been evident in the first 2 games.

Its true that. He's used to playing at full back with excellent wingers in front of him though. The one thing that would make me hesitate moving him is that he does seem to have stemmed the flow of crosses from that side. Which was a huge problem last season when Ricketts and Mears played there.

On a related note, how pissed off with Lee must Tierney be by now? Not only has Lee left him exposed in the two games several times with two players to mark. But also Tierney has on many occassions bust a gut to make the overlap, does so very well, then Lee does his usual thing of fart arseing around with the ball coming back inside then giving it away. Needs work does that.

[Bruce Rioja]

Indeed, positively encouraged too I'd say. Tierney showed on Saturday that he's certainly no slouch when it comes to putting a cross in. His ball in for Pratley's goal was one of the best that I've seen in a long while.

[plymouth wanderer]

50% of the praise goes to Pratters for busting a gut to get in the box

[PC1978]

So many times there was gaping space in the right flank in the first 2 games, just begging for a full back to get into. But he seems hesitant to get forward. For me, he's (baptiste) a centre back playing at full back. It doesn't really work, unless you have exceptional wingers. It's killing our width. That's been evident in the first 2 games.

Its true that. He's used to playing at full back with excellent wingers in front of him though. The one thing that would make me hesitate moving him is that he does seem to have stemmed the flow of crosses from that side. Which was a huge problem last season when Ricketts and Mears played there.

On a related note, how pissed off with Lee must Tierney be by now? Not only has Lee left him exposed in the two games several times with two players to mark. But also Tierney has on many occassions bust a gut to make the overlap, does so very well, then Lee does his usual thing of fart arseing around with the ball coming back inside then giving it away. Needs work does that.

If by work you mean dropping Lee then I agree!

[plymouth wanderer]

So many times there was gaping space in the right flank in the first 2 games, just begging for a full back to get into. But he seems hesitant to get forward. For me, he's (baptiste) a centre back playing at full back. It doesn't really work, unless you have exceptional wingers. It's killing our width. That's been evident in the first 2 games.

Its true that. He's used to playing at full back with excellent wingers in front of him though. The one thing that would make me hesitate moving him is that he does seem to have stemmed the flow of crosses from that side. Which was a huge problem last season when Ricketts and Mears played there.

On a related note, how pissed off with Lee must Tierney be by now? Not only has Lee left him exposed in the two games several times with two players to mark. But also Tierney has on many occassions bust a gut to make the overlap, does so very well, then Lee does his usual thing of fart arseing around with the ball coming back inside then giving it away. Needs work does that.

If by work you mean dropping Lee then I agree!

Same here! Wasn't that impressed with him last year ( think he needs the Eagles treatment) also he is playing on the left which I ain't sure he's comfortable with( cuts in cus he's right footed)

[BWFC_Insane]

So many times there was gaping space in the right flank in the first 2 games, just begging for a full back to get into. But he seems hesitant to get forward. For me, he's (baptiste) a centre back playing at full back. It doesn't really work, unless you have exceptional wingers. It's killing our width. That's been evident in the first 2 games.

Its true that. He's used to playing at full back with excellent wingers in front of him though. The one thing that would make me hesitate moving him is that he does seem to have stemmed the flow of crosses from that side. Which was a huge problem last season when Ricketts and Mears played there.

On a related note, how pissed off with Lee must Tierney be by now? Not only has Lee left him exposed in the two games several times with two players to mark. But also Tierney has on many occassions bust a gut to make the overlap, does so very well, then Lee does his usual thing of fart arseing around with the ball coming back inside then giving it away. Needs work does that.

If by work you mean dropping Lee then I agree!

Same here! Wasn't that impressed with him last year ( think he needs the Eagles treatment) also he is playing on the left which I ain't sure he's comfortable with( cuts in cus he's right footed)

He cuts in on the bloody right as well. Said last season he was being carried.

Even more so this season.

First half against Reading, when we had the ball he offered some decent movement, and the odd nice touch. But he's not doing anywhere near enough and hasn't for the majority of last season either, IMO.

What I will say is that the system we look to be trying to play this season with a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 or whatever you call it, will suit him more than the 4-4-2 we played a lot last season. For me he's never been a winger in the traditional sense and never will be. He's not going to take the full back on much and bang crosses in. He needs to move across the front line and the system allows him to do that more. But I'd like to see more from him in general. He's a long long way short of offering what Eagles does to the team.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

So he's not a get-to-the-byline winger but he annoys you when he cuts in? Bit confused there, BWFCi. However, I will say again that DF has options.

Interesting to hear Boris's thoughts on Baptiste etc. Would be surprised if DF changes his back four by that much, although I would be surprised and saddened if he doesn't soon see that the Knight-Wheater combo is a mistake generator. (And I was surprised he was so adamant that Bap is "just" a right-back.)

[plymouth wanderer]

So many times there was gaping space in the right flank in the first 2 games, just begging for a full back to get into. But he seems hesitant to get forward. For me, he's (baptiste) a centre back playing at full back. It doesn't really work, unless you have exceptional wingers. It's killing our width. That's been evident in the first 2 games.

Its true that. He's used to playing at full back with excellent wingers in front of him though. The one thing that would make me hesitate moving him is that he does seem to have stemmed the flow of crosses from that side. Which was a huge problem last season when Ricketts and Mears played there.

On a related note, how pissed off with Lee must Tierney be by now? Not only has Lee left him exposed in the two games several times with two players to mark. But also Tierney has on many occassions bust a gut to make the overlap, does so very well, then Lee does his usual thing of fart arseing around with the ball coming back inside then giving it away. Needs work does that.

If by work you mean dropping Lee then I agree!

Same here! Wasn't that impressed with him last year ( think he needs the Eagles treatment) also he is playing on the left which I ain't sure he's comfortable with( cuts in cus he's right footed)

He cuts in on the bloody right as well. Said last season he was being carried.

Even more so this season.

First half against Reading, when we had the ball he offered some decent movement, and the odd nice touch. But he's not doing anywhere near enough and hasn't for the majority of last season either, IMO.

What I will say is that the system we look to be trying to play this season with a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 or whatever you call it, will suit him more than the 4-4-2 we played a lot last season. For me he's never been a winger in the traditional sense and never will be. He's not going to take the full back on much and bang crosses in. He needs to move across the front line and the system allows him to do that more. But I'd like to see more from him in general. He's a long long way short of offering what Eagles does to the team.

What about in the hole? So to speak

[PC1978]

So he's not a get-to-the-byline winger but he annoys you when he cuts in? Bit confused there, BWFCi. However, I will say again that DF has options.

Interesting to hear Boris's thoughts on Baptiste etc. Would be surprised if DF changes his back four by that much, although I would be surprised and saddened if he doesn't soon see that the Knight-Wheater combo is a mistake generator. (And I was surprised he was so adamant that Bap is "just" a right-back.)

Been saying that myself. Wheater is good enough for this level, but he has a lot of mistakes in him. I get very nervous with Knight and Wheater as our two CBs, which is why I'd like to see how Mills pairs up with either but then again the argument can be made that there's no point with him looking to be on the way out. We're caught between a rock and a hard place with our current centre halves, but if we stick with Knight and Wheater I think we'll ship a lot of goals and dangerous set pieces.

I think the problem with our centre halves is that neither Wheater, Knight or Mills have much pace or a Stubbs or Dawson like reading of the game. I would be happy to play any of them three alongside a centre half with pace or greater anticipation but not with each other.

[BWFC_Insane]

So he's not a get-to-the-byline winger but he annoys you when he cuts in? Bit confused there, BWFCi. However, I will say again that DF has options.

Interesting to hear Boris's thoughts on Baptiste etc. Would be surprised if DF changes his back four by that much, although I would be surprised and saddened if he doesn't soon see that the Knight-Wheater combo is a mistake generator. (And I was surprised he was so adamant that Bap is "just" a right-back.)

I meant off the ball he's effective when he makes runs across the defence.

I don't mind him cutting inside either. It is perfectly fine. But then he has to find a cutting pass or drive in and shoot (which he does very rarely) or actually give the ball to the overlapping full back.

All too often he cuts inside and goes backwards or loses it.

Part of it is that his movement is effective but he needs players who can work with that. However, what he needs to sort out is his work on the ball. It needs to carry much more threat, one way or another.

[BWFC_Insane]

So he's not a get-to-the-byline winger but he annoys you when he cuts in? Bit confused there, BWFCi. However, I will say again that DF has options.

Interesting to hear Boris's thoughts on Baptiste etc. Would be surprised if DF changes his back four by that much, although I would be surprised and saddened if he doesn't soon see that the Knight-Wheater combo is a mistake generator. (And I was surprised he was so adamant that Bap is "just" a right-back.)

Been saying that myself. Wheater is good enough for this level, but he has a lot of mistakes in him. I get very nervous with Knight and Wheater as our two CBs, which is why I'd like to see how Mills pairs up with either but then again the argument can be made that there's no point with him looking to be on the way out. We're caught between a rock and a hard place with our current centre halves, but if we stick with Knight and Wheater I think we'll ship a lot of goals and dangerous set pieces.

I think the problem with our centre halves is that neither Wheater, Knight or Mills have much pace or a Stubbs or Dawson like reading of the game. I would be happy to play any of them three alongside a centre half with pace or greater anticipation but not with each other.

Yeah, I agree. They're all too similar which highlights each others problems, causing my anxiety! I really hope Dougie signs a centre half who can have a Dawson like effect, but he really doesn't seem set on signing one. Well, apart from his comments about Dawson's availability last week. Just don't want us panic buying last minute.

He can't sign more until we release someone. And until he knows who he can get rid of he can't prioritise which position needs filling. We have 4 centre halves, who may all be shite, but as we've been trying to get rid of 2 of them, until one goes, I would suggest we can't bring another in.