Freedman out!
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Well his Company charge 10% on the debt. So some fckr has !!BWFC_Insane wrote:Of course we don't know if Eddie has received a penny or not.Hoboh wrote:Not a prayer man, I'd offer him 25 and a 75% payback of the debt that would mean his money back. He's had his cash cow interest payments for long enough and made a killing.TKIZ! wrote:Unless someone stumps up £150m for the club or Eddie were to pass away then he's making the decisions for the foreseeable futureboltonboris wrote:Eddie may not be the one making those decisions once the redevelopment goes ahead
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Aye and Gartside has repeatedly said that (and I quote here) 'The interest payments to Eddie are put through the books for tax reasons but he doesn't receive a penny of them in effect donating them back to the club'.bobo the clown wrote:Well his Company charge 10% on the debt. So some fckr has !!BWFC_Insane wrote:Of course we don't know if Eddie has received a penny or not.Hoboh wrote:Not a prayer man, I'd offer him 25 and a 75% payback of the debt that would mean his money back. He's had his cash cow interest payments for long enough and made a killing.TKIZ! wrote:Unless someone stumps up £150m for the club or Eddie were to pass away then he's making the decisions for the foreseeable futureboltonboris wrote:Eddie may not be the one making those decisions once the redevelopment goes ahead
So we don't know one way or t'other.
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see the BN are running with another story featuring the Dougie line about performance in training mularkey.
Am I the only one who thinks there may be players who don't perform in training but put them in a game situation and they do - in many respects I don't give a monkeys about training performance and after all which is more important.
Am I the only one who thinks there may be players who don't perform in training but put them in a game situation and they do - in many respects I don't give a monkeys about training performance and after all which is more important.
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Nope. It's bllx.StaffsTrotter wrote:see the BN are running with another story featuring the Dougie line about performance in training mularkey.
Am I the only one who thinks there may be players who don't perform in training but put them in a game situation and they do - in many respects I don't give a monkeys about training performance and after all which is more important.
Of course you want them to be fit, to put in the effort, to be team-players, to know "the plays", to work hard etc., etc. But do you think he'd have dropped Alan Hudson, Matt Le Tissier, our very own Frank Worthy et al ?
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Nixon has worded his article carefully, but Freedman wants Zaha on loan.
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So let me see 10% of 100 mill is 10 mill that suddenly just reappears in the clubs bank, strange.BWFC_Insane wrote: Aye and Gartside has repeatedly said that (and I quote here) 'The interest payments to Eddie are put through the books for tax reasons but he doesn't receive a penny of them in effect donating them back to the club'.
So we don't know one way or t'other.
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You think that Coyle had an 'agenda' with regard to Bogdan, so all things considered, I reckon it actually is an international conspiracy.BWFC_Insane wrote:Its a message board about football not a fecking international conspiracy.boltonboris wrote:Course you'd think that. It suits your agenda.
worryingly though, he doesn't seem to trust any of our academy players to come in and make an impact. He said as much, when answering my question at the fans forum
I think it, because it fits with what I've seen and heard, and what has happened.
That doesn't mean it is right. But it is what I think.
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Lord Kangana wrote:You think that Coyle had an 'agenda' with regard to Bogdan, so all things considered, I reckon it actually is an international conspiracy.BWFC_Insane wrote:Its a message board about football not a fecking international conspiracy.boltonboris wrote:Course you'd think that. It suits your agenda.
worryingly though, he doesn't seem to trust any of our academy players to come in and make an impact. He said as much, when answering my question at the fans forum
I think it, because it fits with what I've seen and heard, and what has happened.
That doesn't mean it is right. But it is what I think.
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Perhaps I've misunderstood your post, but if I've understood rightly, you've changed your mind, and are now actually agreeing that Freedman has his own agenda?
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9 points from 12.
I'm finding it hard to describe Freedman without insulting the real useless nice people out there.
I'm finding it hard to describe Freedman without insulting the real useless nice people out there.
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I wish! 6 from 12 more like it.Wandering Willy wrote:9 points from 12.
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malcd1 wrote:I wish! 6 from 12 more like it.Wandering Willy wrote:9 points from 12.
I'm finding it hard to describe Freedman without insulting the real useless tw*ts out there.
He means 9 points from 12 games, not 9 points from last 12 points.
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Would you like Boothroyd instead WW .Wandering Willy wrote:9 points from 12.
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Brilliant isn't he?Wandering Willy wrote:9 points from 12.
I'm finding it hard to describe Freedman without insulting the real useless tw*ts out there.
Better than Allardyce some say.
Still to be fair he's only had a full year and two transfer windows. He just needs time.
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I'd like to ask Freedman why creativity is such a dirty word....
I think he'd struggle to manage & motivate a U14's team. I'm almost at the point where Freedman could be our worst ever manager in the past 20 years ? and we've had some bloody bad ones I know.
I don't think he knows the players & I don't think that they know or like him, he's awful - his post match sound bites are as bad as any under Coyle
His latest after today "We started very well and we were playing some fantastic stuff and Jermaine scored a beautiful goal, but once again at home there was a huge piece of misfortune for us with the own goal," he said.
"I thought that we coped very well at the back and probably won the battle in the air at the end against a very good Sheffield Wednesday front four. We are playing very well at the minute and we showed great courage to get in their and try and force a winner and we had four or five really good chances to do that in the end."
I think he'd struggle to manage & motivate a U14's team. I'm almost at the point where Freedman could be our worst ever manager in the past 20 years ? and we've had some bloody bad ones I know.
I don't think he knows the players & I don't think that they know or like him, he's awful - his post match sound bites are as bad as any under Coyle
His latest after today "We started very well and we were playing some fantastic stuff and Jermaine scored a beautiful goal, but once again at home there was a huge piece of misfortune for us with the own goal," he said.
"I thought that we coped very well at the back and probably won the battle in the air at the end against a very good Sheffield Wednesday front four. We are playing very well at the minute and we showed great courage to get in their and try and force a winner and we had four or five really good chances to do that in the end."
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bwfcdan94 wrote:Would you like Boothroyd instead WW .Wandering Willy wrote:9 points from 12.
I'm finding it hard to describe Freedman without insulting the real useless tw*ts out there.
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Bruce Rioja wrote:bwfcdan94 wrote:Would you like Boothroyd instead WW .Wandering Willy wrote:9 points from 12.
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I think we have to face up to the fact that the guy is staying.
Loyalty is generally a positive thing, and it's nice that the club believes in it, put he is pushing his luck now.
We also have to get used to the fact that he thinks he's the new George Graham. He plays at entertainment ... it's not what he does. He could have Moritz, Mavies and Holden in the squad and wouldn't have a clue how to use them ... any of them. He has Hall but now won't use him.
He needs to believe in his team ... he clearly doesn't at present. But he'll be around a while yet I suspect.
Loyalty is generally a positive thing, and it's nice that the club believes in it, put he is pushing his luck now.
We also have to get used to the fact that he thinks he's the new George Graham. He plays at entertainment ... it's not what he does. He could have Moritz, Mavies and Holden in the squad and wouldn't have a clue how to use them ... any of them. He has Hall but now won't use him.
He needs to believe in his team ... he clearly doesn't at present. But he'll be around a while yet I suspect.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Well if we cant beat wednesday at home i cant see us beating anyone. We'll have to win some away games then, otherwise phil may have his hand forced (again).
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I really don't think he will be around much longer because I think the inevitable continuation of this awful form will force Eddie's hand. And I think PG's days are numbered as well.
I genuinely thought we were in a temporary position after 5-6 games (although I went to Forest and that tested my optimism) but now it's clear that we are where we deserve to be and I think we'll be staying there under Dougie. Might be a good manager at some point, but he's been found out now. Players are going backwards under his bullshit regime. That's what it all is, pure bullshit and bravado, and it's going to come crashing down.
I'm embarrassed to say i believed in it, because I think he did and probably still does. It's clear he massively overrates himself.
Look at players he's brought in, Medo and Davies looked like great signings for the money, yet now they are rubbish.
The sooner he's gone the better for me.
I genuinely thought we were in a temporary position after 5-6 games (although I went to Forest and that tested my optimism) but now it's clear that we are where we deserve to be and I think we'll be staying there under Dougie. Might be a good manager at some point, but he's been found out now. Players are going backwards under his bullshit regime. That's what it all is, pure bullshit and bravado, and it's going to come crashing down.
I'm embarrassed to say i believed in it, because I think he did and probably still does. It's clear he massively overrates himself.
Look at players he's brought in, Medo and Davies looked like great signings for the money, yet now they are rubbish.
The sooner he's gone the better for me.
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