Today I'm angry about.....

[Il Pirate]

Yesterday I came across the term l'espirit de l'escalier for the first time. For those that don't know, its the French expression for when you think of the perfect retort, albeit in the car on the way home or literally on the stair case after you've stormed off. Today I experienced it first hand.

Today 2 colleagues on another floor came to ask me for some advice on a work problem they were having with their boss. In mid chat in a private room, their large over bearing bully of a boss, came in, gave them and me a right mouthful and marched off. One of the lasses burst into tears and us two just stood there mouths agape. I spent the drive home thinking what my best response would have been but most of them involved me smacking him in the mouth

Slowly, slowly, catch yer monkey, Harry ........................

[Hoboh]

A pox on the feckin' bitch!!!!

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hardly the worst of the worst... they are both working. working tax credits were designed to help people back to work - which (it seems) is what they did - and they are using the money on a back-payment to go on holiday... it doesn't seem particularly evil to me...

I'll bet the £38,000 is a little bit cheaper than bringing all those kids up through the care-home system...
and, just a thought - I'd be reluctant to call someone a fecking bitch and wish the pox on her without having met her...

A couple of packets of condoms would have been a hell of a sight cheaper or even a female snip!
I stand by the pox too the silly bitch even admits she may decide to sprog more into her brood.

[Hoboh]

A pox on the feckin' bitch!!!!

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Now then. Genuine question, Hoboh. Who/what's more at fault here - her or a system that allows it? (just so you know, it truly boils my piss that anyone can draw state benefits as a lifestyle choice).

The system that allows people to play it. Woman like her do the poor disabled no good whatsoever when they get dragged into being labelled benefit cheats.

[malcd1]

Child tax benefits / credits should only apply to the first two kids. If you want more, PAY FOR THEM YOURSELF YOU SELFISH BASTARDS.

[Bruce Rioja]

Child tax benefits / credits should only apply to the first two kids. If you want more, PAY FOR THEM YOURSELF YOU SELFISH BASTARDS.

Why should it apply to the first two? You breed them - you fecking feed them. Why should I be paying for other folk's children?

[thebish]

good point! I am writing to the government to demand that the taxes I pay are only spent on the roads I drive on.

[Bruce Rioja]

good point! I am writing to the government to demand that the taxes I pay are only spent on the roads I drive on.

So you think that I should contribute to the upbringing of the children that you've chosen to have do you? Care to justify that?

[thebish]

good point! I am writing to the government to demand that the taxes I pay are only spent on the roads I drive on.

So you think that I should contribute to the upbringing of the children that you've chosen to have do you? Care to justify that?

no, what I said was that I only want to pay for the roads I am driving on.

[Bruce Rioja]

good point! I am writing to the government to demand that the taxes I pay are only spent on the roads I drive on.

So you think that I should contribute to the upbringing of the children that you've chosen to have do you? Care to justify that?

no, what I said was that I only want to pay for the roads I am driving on.

Good luck with that then.

[thebish]

ditto with the idea of not paying for other peoples' children.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I reckon we should have a Chinese style One Child policy, retrospectively backdated. That'll sort it. We'll have room to drive on all the roads we want then (those of us left).

[Athers]

They are certainly playing it to their advantage it by both working part time rather than one full time, one not. Presumably both working full time is impossible with a houseful like that.

Part of me thinks at least they are working, it's the system here. I didn't realise the benefits cap could be blown out of the water so spectacularly by working part time for minimum wage.

Child benefit & a child tax credit. Might be worth it having a kid after all!

[thebish]

They are certainly playing it to their advantage it by both working part time rather than one full time, one not. Presumably both working full time is impossible with a houseful like that.

Part of me thinks at least they are working, it's the system here. I didn't realise the benefits cap could be blown out of the water so spectacularly by working part time for minimum wage.

Child benefit & a child tax credit. Might be worth it having a kid after all!

if he worked full time and she didn't work at all - then she'd be lambasted for being a work-shy layabout... clearly she isn't - being a care-assistant is no joke job and is very poorly paid...

[Bruce Rioja]

if he worked full time and she didn't work at all - then she'd be lambasted for being a work-shy layabout... clearly she isn't - being a care-assistant is no joke job and is very poorly paid...

Oh right, so those of us that do take the trouble to work 50+ hours a week should supplement her income so she can spit out babies at a rate of knotts then?!

[thebish]

if he worked full time and she didn't work at all - then she'd be lambasted for being a work-shy layabout... clearly she isn't - being a care-assistant is no joke job and is very poorly paid...

Oh right, so those of us that do take the trouble to work 50+ hours a week should supplement her income so she can spit out babies at a rate of knotts then?!

just pointing out that she is being criticised for working - as if working - having a job is her way of beating the system - and if she wasn't working - she'd be criticised for not working and playing the system... seems like she's on a hiding either way - whether she works or whether she doesn't...

as for subsidising other people's kids - you're entitled to be cross about your hard-earned paying for stuff you don't want... i guess we all have different priorities in life..

I don't want to subsidise your roads
you don't want to subsidise GG's lovely, gorgeous twins

(though - my parents subsidised you and you brother when you were born - so did GG's, probably!)

thing is - about the society we live in... we need to constantly breed and recruit the next generation of tax payers so that when you and I retire, the roads and the health service and the police and the ambulances and all the other gubbins that we elect governments to make choices about can still be afforded.

so - it seems to me - it's a small investment that massively pays off - helping parents bring potential new taxpayers into the world so that they in turn can pay back far more than was ever paid in on their behalf - and the UK hamster wheel - keeps turning.. it's basic economics...

[Il Pirate]

so those of us that do take the trouble to work 50+ hours a week

You don't have to.........................

[Athers]

They are certainly playing it to their advantage it by both working part time rather than one full time, one not. Presumably both working full time is impossible with a houseful like that.

Part of me thinks at least they are working, it's the system here. I didn't realise the benefits cap could be blown out of the water so spectacularly by working part time for minimum wage.

Child benefit & a child tax credit. Might be worth it having a kid after all!

if he worked full time and she didn't work at all - then she'd be lambasted for being a work-shy layabout... clearly she isn't - being a care-assistant is no joke job and is very poorly paid...

Not by me as she'd have to be a stay-at-home due to the impossible cost of childcare. I am just observing a 'choice to work' decision which is probably reflected upwards through the salary bands but is quite prominent in the thinking when it results in benefits being paid rather than reduced taxation.

Certainly three 'unplanned' pregnancies in a row is daft (I'm told that immediately after giving birth is one of the most fertile times for getting re-pregnant and that fact is startlingly unknown), and then the new bloke in her life wants his own kids, it has created a bit of a crazy household.

I guess you could argue that child benefits for the 'nth child' be reduced because of the ability to re-use clothes, cots, prams and so on, but then again I suppose these things get battered around when used? I don't know from experience thankfully!

[Bruce Rioja]

so those of us that do take the trouble to work 50+ hours a week

You don't have to.........................

I have a copy of my contract somewhere that blathers on about the working time directive and how I'm required to put in as many hours as it takes.

[Lord Kangana]

I think working tax credits and the like are a ridiculous, vote-chasing subsidy for both businesses (who should be paying more) and those who receive them who don't need them.

I find it rather infuriating that, in the current vicious war being waged against our magnificent, civilised (civilising?) Welfare State, that the key principles of the system have been forgotten. Its to help the most needy, to keep the wolf from the door, not to pay for young Clarissa's or Tarquin's piano lessons - as noble an idea as that is.

Its also to his shame that The Chancellor decided to focus on those who couldn't get a job when identifying the problem, instead of those who have a job, or more precisely, those who have a job but are under-payed. Government should stop subsidising business by the back door. We sold off our national assets because we were told of their inefficiency, yet nothing has changed, just the method by which the subsidy is given out.

[thebish]

Certainly three 'unplanned' pregnancies in a row is daft (I'm told that immediately after giving birth is one of the most fertile times for getting re-pregnant and that fact is startlingly unknown),

my sister is a trained healthcare professional - a physiotherapist... her first husband was a Granada TV rental debt collector.

he convinced her that you couldn't get pregnant while you were breast feeding.

result: she was preggers within 2 months of having her first...