The Politics Thread

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Labour
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41%
Conservatives
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38%
Liberal Democrats
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6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
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Green Party
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9%
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:22 pm

Not seeing much in the article that doesn't make sense?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mrkint » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:36 pm

thebish wrote:
mrkint wrote:
thebish wrote:the world according to Boris...
The super-rich are a "put-upon minority" like homeless people and should be protected from any further "bullying" from the public, Boris Johnson claimed today.

Johnson called for an end to "bashing" the richest people in Britain and suggested they should instead receive "automatic knighthoods" for their contribution to the UK exchequer.

"It is my duty to stick up for every put-upon minority in the city – from the homeless to Irish travellers to ex-gang members to disgraced former MPs," wrote the Conservative mayor of London in the Daily Telegraph.

"But there is one minority that I still behold with a benign bewilderment, and that is the very, very rich."

He said the public should instead extend their "humble and hearty thanks" to the super-rich who "now pay 29.8 per cent of all the income tax and national insurance received by the Treasury."
Hi bish, would you like to link to the actual column in the telegraph rather than pull selected lines out of context?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... -them.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I didn't see it in the telegraph - I saw it here: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/11/ ... e-homeless

I haven't pulled any lines out - it is as it was written where I saw it...

(though - you are right - I should certainly have put the link - I usually do!)

Sorry if I came across as narky...I knew it was from politics.co.uk, but also knew it was ripped from the telegraph. And I just hate it when publications take comment from other publications and fit whatever choice quote they can find to the story they have in mind :D once again, apologies.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:41 pm

^ absolutely no need for apologies - entirely my fault for not checking out that what i quoted was an accurate representation! you did absolutely the right thing!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:14 pm

Primary and secondary diagnoses of malnutrition – caused by lack of food or very poor diet – rose from 3,161 in 2008/09 to 5,499 last year, according to figures released by the health minister Norman Lamb.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:44 pm

thebish wrote:Primary and secondary diagnoses of malnutrition – caused by lack of food or very poor diet – rose from 3,161 in 2008/09 to 5,499 last year, according to figures released by the health minister Norman Lamb.
Didn't Dean Swift have a modest proposal to deal with this issue?

Can't remember quite what it was...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:17 pm

William the White wrote:
thebish wrote:Primary and secondary diagnoses of malnutrition – caused by lack of food or very poor diet – rose from 3,161 in 2008/09 to 5,499 last year, according to figures released by the health minister Norman Lamb.
Didn't Dean Swift have a modest proposal to deal with this issue?

Can't remember quite what it was...
I think it was limited to the Irish, but solved both the hunger and overpopulation problems.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:36 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
William the White wrote:
thebish wrote:Primary and secondary diagnoses of malnutrition – caused by lack of food or very poor diet – rose from 3,161 in 2008/09 to 5,499 last year, according to figures released by the health minister Norman Lamb.
Didn't Dean Swift have a modest proposal to deal with this issue?

Can't remember quite what it was...
I think it was limited to the Irish, but solved both the hunger and overpopulation problems.
Indeed, babies of the poor eaten at the optimum age of 12 months old would give food to the poor and rid them of all responsibilities for feckless children... Perfect... Though I seem to remember the good Dean suggested the high price of ten shillings per baby roast, making them luxury cuts... Understandable - too expensive for the poor, whether in the cradle or the oven...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:45 pm

Amazon.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do these conditions seem obviously worse than those in the mines and factories whose demise we now lament?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:17 pm

Brilliantly twisted there, your honour. That'd be the mines and factories we were happy to see the back of, wouldn't it?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Beefheart » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:24 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Amazon.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do these conditions seem obviously worse than those in the mines and factories whose demise we now lament?
I don't know about anyone else, but that actually sounds like quite a fun job to me. I did picking and packing at a warehouse once and it's pretty much the easiest job ever.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:53 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Brilliantly twisted there, your honour. That'd be the mines and factories we were happy to see the back of, wouldn't it?
No - we lament their demise. Did you not read my post?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:32 pm

Define "we".
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:34 pm

The first person plural pronoun for those of us who are interested in the UK economy.

See also: "we are all in this together".
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:52 pm

So you personally lament the loss of manufacturing and the mining industry?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:06 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:So you personally lament the loss of manufacturing and the mining industry?
The 'demise' - cor, now who's twisting with an agenda?!
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:15 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Amazon.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do these conditions seem obviously worse than those in the mines and factories whose demise we now lament?
Actually they are not good for the UK worker

They are sending johnny foreigner workers bonkers putting more migrant strain on the NHS :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:02 am

I DO share your concerns on migration, declares Cameron days after Mail's explosive poll: PM unveils sweeping new restrictions on access to benefits
PM unveils new restrictions on access to benefits for EU migrants
'EU principle of "free movement" for workers has gone too far' he'll say
Emergency package of measures comes days days after a Daily Mail poll
Revealed four in five people don't want unrestricted access to UK
Sorry Dave but if this worthless piece of dung agrees with you

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Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said: 'These are sensible and reasonable reforms to ensure that the right to work does not automatically mean the right to claim'


It ain't never going to happen!!!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:13 am

Hoboh - I had 5 Live on this morning and they were going to get Nigel Farage on to get his thoughts on Cameron's remarks. Unfortunately I had to leave for work before he came on and was on the phone all the way in. Did you hear what he had to say? I'd be interested to learn if you (or anyone else for that matter) heard it.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:47 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Hoboh - I had 5 Live on this morning and they were going to get Nigel Farage on to get his thoughts on Cameron's remarks. Unfortunately I had to leave for work before he came on and was on the phone all the way in. Did you hear what he had to say? I'd be interested to learn if you (or anyone else for that matter) heard it.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:50 am

Just slightly off topic

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