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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Prufrock » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:36 pm

thebish wrote:can't we wake up - just once would be nice - to the news that england have run riot with he bat?
How about the ball?

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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Prufrock » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:03 pm

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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Dujon » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:27 pm

Finally! Not before time, either. Perhaps Piers had a bit of a chat with the lads in private?

The press and commentators here, including Aggers, were stating that 255 was a below par score. I think that the England bowlers showed what that view was worth. You can't remove top order batsmen by duping them into letting balls go, balls which then clatter into the stumps, unless there's a lot of bowling skill being displayed. Unless Haddin this morning manages to farm the strike extraordinarily well I cannot see Australia advancing the score by many runs. If it's not 'all out' within three overs I'll be very, very, surprised.

Day three could be a boring or interesting experience. I'm plumping for the latter.

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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by jaffka » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:31 am

Oz all out for 204. Nathan Lyon still hasn't been dismissed in this series.

A win or draw to prevent a 5-0 will make me smile!

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:57 am

jaffka wrote:Oz all out for 204. Nathan Lyon still hasn't been dismissed in this series.

A win or draw to prevent a 5-0 will make me smile!
One could wish they hadn't put on 40 for the last wicket. Still we've made a good start in the second - 54 for 0, with Cook making 41 and Carberry 5 (and Carberry had more of the strike).
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:05 am

Well, that didn't last - 109 for 4, Bell with a golden duck.
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by jaffka » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:31 am

Wake up and read about another collapse and no lost oz wickets.

A rebuild of this side is required.

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Post by clapton is god » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:49 am

I was up watching for an hour up to tea. I just missed the double wicket over but caught a painfully slow hour where Pieterson and Stokes were patiently rebuilding. Went back to bed thinking we had a shot.... FFS!

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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:33 am

Theoretically, with Oz still to get over 200 on the 4th day and final innings England are still in with a great shout.

I did say "theoretically".
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:35 am

Boycott's loving this, the dour nice person.
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by thebish » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:01 pm

Prufrock wrote:
thebish wrote:can't we wake up - just once would be nice - to the news that england have run riot with he bat?
How about the ball?

A good day for once!

I guess that's a "No" then... :-(

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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by LeverEnd » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:50 pm

On the one hand you can look at this in the context of the last few Ashes series, and say that every good team has a hard time at some point. I can't go with that though when you consider how England were such strong favourites. You don't go from being so much better to so much worse in such a short space of time unless there is something badly wrong with the character and/or leadership of the side.
Sure Australia have improved massively but that shoul have just evened things up.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:55 pm

Our tail enders must be some of the most spineless lot with a bat that we've ever taken over there?
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Our tail enders must be some of the most spineless lot with a bat that we've ever taken over there?
Should we even be thinking tail-enders to get us out of it Harry? Our top and middle order have been pretty abysmal in this series. Our heroes are pretty much on vacation right now.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:08 pm

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Harry Genshaw wrote:Our tail enders must be some of the most spineless lot with a bat that we've ever taken over there?
Should we even be thinking tail-enders to get us out of it Harry? Our top and middle order have been pretty abysmal in this series. Our heroes are pretty much on vacation right now.
Oh aye. Don't get me wrong - they've all been bloody useless :evil: . When Cook, Bell & Pietersen are knocking folk all around the park it's fine but this series has highlighted, that when they're bobbins, we cant rely on one tail ender to even hit double figures
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by thebish » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:16 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Our tail enders must be some of the most spineless lot with a bat that we've ever taken over there?

agreed... today their last batsman hung around to add a further 40run partnership for the last wicket... our last FIVE added a total of 6runs...

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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:31 am

Australia win by 8 wickets very easily. Oh well, at least the Montreal Canadiens won today.
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Dujon » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:32 am

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:31 am

Pathetic.
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Re: Winter ashes...

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:54 am

Absolute shite. As much as I detest Boycott, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to disagree with him.
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