Bogdan out for five weeks.

[Whookam]

Jussi was top class quite early in his career.

When Jussi was 24 he was getting dropped and replaced by Steve Banks - he was often like a startled rabbit

That's disingenuous. Jussi was our first choice keeper from the age of 23 onwards. Banks made 20 starts for Bolton over four years and that includes the periods when Jussi was injured.

[CAPSLOCK]

No, he was dropped

Cos he was shit

When he was 24

And Banks only made 20 appearances over 4 years cos we signed Matt Clarke when Jussi was injured

Cos banks was shite

But at least the equal of Jussi aged 24

[CAPSLOCK]

Jussi has been the best keeper I have seen, that Bolton have had.

I agree and we've had some good ones

Siddall, McDonagh and Branagan

[jaffka]

No, he was dropped

Cos he was shit

When he was 24

And Banks only made 20 appearances over 4 years cos we signed Matt Clarke when Jussi was injured

Cos banks was shite

But at least the equal of Jussi aged 24

I think it was the Blackburn game what finally made Sam lose patience with Banks.

[jaffka]

Jussi has been the best keeper I have seen, that Bolton have had.

I agree and we've had some good ones

Siddall, McDonagh and Branagan

I never saw Siddall, McDonagh briefly and Branagan was obviously a terrace favourite and for me the second best keeper I have seen Bolton have over a period of time.

[CAPSLOCK]

No, he was dropped

Cos he was shit

When he was 24

And Banks only made 20 appearances over 4 years cos we signed Matt Clarke when Jussi was injured

Cos banks was shite

But at least the equal of Jussi aged 24

I think it was the Blackburn game what finally made Sam lose patience with Banks.

If anybody doubts that Jussi had issues at 24, just consider this

Allardyce played Steve Banks ahead of him for a game against fcuking Challinors throws

[LeverEnd]

Jussi was top class quite early in his career.

When Jussi was 24 he was getting dropped and replaced by Steve Banks - he was often like a startled rabbit

That's disingenuous. Jussi was our first choice keeper from the age of 23 onwards. Banks made 20 starts for Bolton over four years and that includes the periods when Jussi was injured.

I put quite early because I remember he had his moments as a lot of young keepers do. Basically what I'm saying in is that by Bogdan's age he was miles better than Bogdan is and had the reputation to go with that. I'd say claiming Banks and Jussi were equals at that point is boll... I mean disingenuous.

[Bruce Rioja]

Branny by a fecking mile

[LeverEnd]

Branny by a fecking mile

Great keeper. I remember Andy Dibble being brilliant on a loan spell as well, was gutted he had to back.

[Prufrock]

No, he was dropped

Cos he was shit

When he was 24

And Banks only made 20 appearances over 4 years cos we signed Matt Clarke when Jussi was injured

Cos banks was shite

But at least the equal of Jussi aged 24

I think it was the Blackburn game what finally made Sam lose patience with Banks.

If anybody doubts that Jussi had issues at 24, just consider this

Allardyce played Steve Banks ahead of him for a game against fcuking Challinors throws

Jussi did have issues when he was younger, but by the time he was 26 he was first choice (until his knee went pop) as we got promoted and was miles ahead of where Boggers is now. Boggers wouldn't need to get to Jussi's eventual level to be considered decent mind, but he's a long way off for me. Constant little mistakes and occasional big mistakes is not a good combination for a keeper.

[bobo the clown]

I recall Jussi having an absolute 'mare against Crewe on Saturday around 2002. I mean utterly awful.

He was a sound keeper who at his best became v v good. But his kicking failed to improve over all the years he was with us. His insistence on 'distributing' it via the big hoof, albeit to a then very effective SKD, and simply NEVER throwing, rolling or even a shorter kick meant we were predictable.

Maybe is the rose-tinted specs of time but I thought Brannigan and McDonagh were at least his equals.

To Bogdan, meanwhile, I've never been convinced. He's young(ish) still and time to improve, but he has steps to make.

[Enoch]

Bogdan's still young for a keeper and he's pretty sound for me. Technically he's good, issues I think are mostly confidence related.

As has been said, he's never had the luxury of a solid back four. Would be nice to think he'll experience that in the not too distant future.

Lonergan is solid, just that bit older. Would probably shade Bogdan for that reason

[truewhite15]

Bogdan's still young for a keeper and he's pretty sound for me. Technically he's good, issues I think are mostly confidence related.

As has been said, he's never had the luxury of a solid back four. Would be nice to think he'll experience that in the not too distant future.

Lonergan is solid, just that bit older. Would probably shade Bogdan for that reason

In the Championship, experience is king.

[Mar]

Bogdan's still young for a keeper and he's pretty sound for me. Technically he's good, issues I think are mostly confidence related.

As has been said, he's never had the luxury of a solid back four. Would be nice to think he'll experience that in the not too distant future.

Lonergan is solid, just that bit older. Would probably shade Bogdan for that reason

Lets keep deluding ourselves into thinking that Bogdan is technically amazing in order to counter the fact that he's very error prone. He has brilliant games and a lot more bad ones.

Thankfully Lonergan is in the side and we're seeing an experienced goalkeeper being average and doing the job we all expect, nothing more, nothing less. Its what we needed really instead of the constant berating of Bogdan for his mistakes. Now if we can only do the same for the defence.

[Harry Genshaw]

Branagan is my favourite but Jussi's top flight career says he was a better keeper.

I've seen some good uns and one or two shockers and although Bogdan is competent imo, I don't think I've ever seen a goalkeeping performance as bad as his was v Chelsea

[Enoch]

Technically he's good

Lets keep deluding ourselves into thinking that Bogdan is technically amazing

Why did you quote me if you're referencing someone else's post?

[Mar]

Technically he's good

Lets keep deluding ourselves into thinking that Bogdan is technically amazing

Why did you quote me if you're referencing someone else's post?

I was referencing your post, not someone elses. Despite whose post it was or wasn't, the gist of it is people think Bogdan to be technically very good but I honestly think that might just be case of the fans trying to justify his inclusion.

[Enoch]

Technically he's good

Lets keep deluding ourselves into thinking that Bogdan is technically amazing

Why did you quote me if you're referencing someone else's post?

....the gist of it is people think Bogdan to be technically very good....

Well you've knocked it down from amazing to very good, another go and you might get to where I am.

By the way, do you believe he isn't good technically?

[Lord Kangana]

Bogdan is the future of our club, lets not f*ck about. He's a kid that needs guidance. He doesn't seem to have got it, but he's an amazing talent.

[Bruce Rioja]

Bogdan is the future of our club, lets not f*ck about. He's a kid that needs guidance. He doesn't seem to have got it, but he's an amazing talent.

I ask myself would he have pulled off some of the saves that Lonegran has recently and I don't think Bogdan would have even bothered going for half of them. Especially the one from the header on Saturday. Has stood and watched far too many go in for me, has Ginge.