Grand my arse, up the Whites! - Brighton (H) 15/3/14

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Re: Grand my arse, up the Whites! - Brighton (H) 15/3/14

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:46 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
DJBlu wrote:Can we get our "What we would be happy with" in so we can all feel ok at full time.
England win, Bolton win, France win, lottery win and a pair of blonde nymphomaniac twins please.


I think it's going to be a disappointing day.
So you wouldn't be watching the games then Worthy or do the nymphos arrive afterwards?
So Bolton and France let me down - said it was going to be disappointing. :D
... & these blonde nympho twins. Was one called Craig and one called Stuart ??
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Re: Grand my arse, up the Whites! - Brighton (H) 15/3/14

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:07 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
DJBlu wrote:Can we get our "What we would be happy with" in so we can all feel ok at full time.
England win, Bolton win, France win, lottery win and a pair of blonde nymphomaniac twins please.


I think it's going to be a disappointing day.
So you wouldn't be watching the games then Worthy or do the nymphos arrive afterwards?
So Bolton and France let me down - said it was going to be disappointing. :D
... & these blonde nympho twins. Was one called Craig and one called Stuart ??
Yes - but their first names were Chantal and Khloe.

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Post by jonnycooper » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:31 pm

On a brighter note!! Stuck a bet on Fleetwood winning 3-1 today;at 14 to 1.So all in all not a totally unpleasant day.!!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:39 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:I don't get what people are banging on at the manager for. He played two up front which I thought was the holy grail? Danns should have been in for Trotter, but Brighton played well. We did too in patches created plenty, just didn't fall for us.

He went with a flat four four two second half when Hall came on and it let Brighton play through us in midfield.We aren't a side who can play with two wingers.

Chungy was terrible though. Not up to it.


His team selection and set-up today was fecking shocking. His only creative outlet in midfield today was Chungy, who, as you say was terrible. Danns must have been sat on the bench, looking at Trotter and thinking what the feck do I have to do to get in the side here?
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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:18 pm

Chungy can feck off for me. Thinks he's above it.

Have we signed that lump trotter?

Thought danns was superb at leeds. Gutted his number wasnt called out by guinevere and set of balls number 4.

Pissed off!

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Re: Grand my arse, up the Whites! - Brighton (H) 15/3/14

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:25 pm

Chungy is a sad sight. Tremendous until his leg break. Never realy regained it since then I still think he has the abilty but he's like a little boy lost at present. It would do both him and the club good to move on.

Trotter is on loan & for me you can see why he was available from a pretty poor Millwall. If DF wastes our money on him I'll be distraught. Danns is another matter ... it'd be very sad if he moves elsewhere.
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Post by Norpig » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:44 pm

It has made my mind up today that Dougie F&%£$"reedman is a clueless manager who would not know a tactic if it came up to him and smacked him in the face (like the tango advert). The decisions he makes from game to game are incomprehensible and the substitutions he makes are likewise. If you set up with 2 up from you need somebody to create behind them to give the front 2 service. Today our reliance to create was with Trotter??? if he is fit them I am Father Christmas he has no pace no skill is unwilling to close down. Young Lee who has done not a lot since his injury and has descended into lethargy. If Davis was not available surely Moritz would have been a better replacement than CYL or Trotter Danns would have been better starting instead of Trotter. When were 1-0 at half time why did Danns not come on for Trotter instead of Hall.

I watched DF on the touchline today and he looked like a man who had run of ideas or who did not know what to do to change the game in our favour. Brighton played well because we let them what happened to the closing down we have seen in the last few games? Probably because Danns was on the bench.

I have had enough of watching this week in week out, I want a manager who knows exactly what the plan is and if Plan A is not working the manager knows how to enforce a Plan B!!

These are my views and I have had a lot to drink which is probably why I am renewing my season ticket!!

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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:47 pm

Oh and beckford isn't fit but trotter is, and we have bouts of infections and conjunctivitis...

Or we have a manager determined to prove us know nowts he was right all along

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Post by jaffka » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:52 pm

I didn't follow the game at all and was only aware of the result after six, which surprised me.

From reading the match report and other posts sounds like Duggie went into his shell.

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Post by danhorwich » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:59 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Chungy can feck off for me. Thinks he's above it.

Have we signed that lump trotter?

Thought danns was superb at leeds. Gutted his number wasnt called out by guinevere and set of balls number 4.

Pissed off!
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Re: Grand my arse, up the Whites! - Brighton (H) 15/3/14

Post by ChrisC » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:39 am

Why the feck can Trotter not jump?? Lead boots me thinks! Reminds me of Michael Ricketts in his stance and the way he runs.

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Post by Jugs » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:33 am

I kinda expected this kind of result after the abject Derby performance amid numerous changes from the Leeds game (despite so many people saying on here that it was a great point). Again he makes numerous changes that were not forced, and we're faced with another disappointing home defeat. Since battering Leeds, Dougie has reverted to type. Maybe he got drunk on success.

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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:54 am

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/11080320._/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

How different could it have been had this been adjudged as onside? Looks blatantly onside to me from the picture and Albion biased paper thinks same.

Other Wanderers fan site saying that Davies, Eagles Lonergan and Joe Mason have all been struggling with a virus all week
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Re: Grand my arse, up the Whites! - Brighton (H) 15/3/14

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:49 am

Our own Tony Coffey was quoted on GMR saying that one of Freedman's problems is that he likes to think he's clever and has a view that he makes decisions that confuse or flabbergast fans almost so when it goes right (IF) he can swagger along saying "see what my greater knowledge does".

I can sympathise with Coffey's opinion. That's Freedman's reason for playing Trotter before Danns maybe. And then, once that fails bringing Hall on rather than Danns. An almost Megson-like "I know better".
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Post by LeverEnd » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:56 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Our own Tony Coffey was quoted on GMR saying that one of Freedman's problems is that he likes to think he's clever and has a view that he makes decisions that confuse or flabbergast fans almost so when it goes right (IF) he can swagger along saying "see what my greater knowledge does".

I can sympathise with Coffey's opinion. That's Freedman's reason for playing Trotter before Danns maybe. And then, once that fails bringing Hall on rather than Danns. An almost Megson-like "I know better".
I missed yesterday's game, but generally I agree completely. I think he has a plan, sticks to it and determined to prove it right even when all the signs suggest otherwise. That plan is based on caution and negativity in my view, and always will be.
This excerpt from the BN report summed it up.

Freedman has warned that this could be a game of chess – and his prediction was clearly right from the off. He had altered the shape of his side to mirror that of Brighton, with Joe Mason playing a deeper role, with mixed results.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... 2/?ref=mac
The same Joe mason who had played so brilliantly alongside the equally brilliant Juke. Like Jugs says, he's reverted to type.

I heard someone on the radio talking about Karanka and how he's come in and tried to force a system on the Boro players without taking into account their capabilities. The interviewee (some ex pro, can't remember) said that you have to play to the strengths of your players and work with what you've got, or you'll confuse the hell out of them. Dougie is the same. Sooner we're rid the better, and my view on that didn't waver slightly during recent victories. I'll happily accept I'm wrong if he turns it round but I don't expect to have to.
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Post by officer_dibble » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:09 pm

Its one thing forcing a system on inherited players, its another signing players and forcing a system on them.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:26 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:Our own Tony Coffey was quoted on GMR saying that one of Freedman's problems is that he likes to think he's clever and has a view that he makes decisions that confuse or flabbergast fans almost so when it goes right (IF) he can swagger along saying "see what my greater knowledge does".

I can sympathise with Coffey's opinion. That's Freedman's reason for playing Trotter before Danns maybe. And then, once that fails bringing Hall on rather than Danns. An almost Megson-like "I know better".
I missed yesterday's game, but generally I agree completely. I think he has a plan, sticks to it and determined to prove it right even when all the signs suggest otherwise. That plan is based on caution and negativity in my view, and always will be.
This excerpt from the BN report summed it up.

Freedman has warned that this could be a game of chess – and his prediction was clearly right from the off. He had altered the shape of his side to mirror that of Brighton, with Joe Mason playing a deeper role, with mixed results.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... 2/?ref=mac
The same Joe mason who had played so brilliantly alongside the equally brilliant Juke. Like Jugs says, he's reverted to type.

I heard someone on the radio talking about Karanka and how he's come in and tried to force a system on the Boro players without taking into account their capabilities. The interviewee (some ex pro, can't remember) said that you have to play to the strengths of your players and work with what you've got, or you'll confuse the hell out of them. Dougie is the same. Sooner we're rid the better, and my view on that didn't waver slightly during recent victories. I'll happily accept I'm wrong if he turns it round but I don't expect to have to.
We played a conventional 4-4-2 second half and Brighton dominated midfield.

People wanted 2 up front, he does it, it works everyone says it is because it is playing 2 up front. Then it doesn't work and it is down to some other tactical issue.

Fact is we could easily have won yesterday. Their keeper made some great saves, we had a goal wrongly disallowed and a free kick clipped the bar.

They had 3 chances and scored 2 goals. They are a very well organised side who keep clean sheets a lot.

On another day a different story but he brought a winger in for a central midfield player so if anything it was a more attacking set up than in previous games.

I'm afraid the days when you just pile people into the box and knock balls in from all angles are gone in football. Second half showed that. Brighton were too clever too good in possession and you have to match if not better those sides in the centre of midfield. That means putting players in there who can win the ball and then ideally ones who can use it.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:47 pm

So how do you explain Trotter then? He does nothing. Zat Knight on the right wing is more effective. We needed some guile and craft to better Brighton and the only midfielder with any of that is CYL, and he's displayed hardly in any in 2 seasons now. At least Danns would given them something to worry about.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:So how do you explain Trotter then? He does nothing. Zat Knight on the right wing is more effective. We needed some guile and craft to better Brighton and the only midfielder with any of that is CYL, and he's displayed hardly in any in 2 seasons now. At least Danns would given them something to worry about.
I'd have played Danns instead of Trotter. But I think saying that is the reason we lost is stretching it. We played ok.

If he persists in that decision then it looks poor but for all we know Danns was suffering with the virus that seems to be in the camp at the minute and was a bit under the weather.

Why does Lee get away with drawing a large wage for two seasons yet contributing nothing btw? People are incensed at picking one player over another, but Lee's cowardice and seeming happiness to run his contract down whilst going missing on the pitch seems to go by with hardly any comment. I know which situation irks me more right now.

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Post by a1 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:26 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
I can sympathise with Coffey's opinion. That's Freedman's reason for playing Trotter before Danns maybe. And then, once that fails bringing Hall on rather than Danns. An almost Megson-like "I know better".
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