The Great Art Debate

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:39 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:That's a bit bleak isn't it?

Yes sir - and so are the two first edition Goya 'Disasters of War' etchings I've got too.

War tends to be 'a bit bleak'!

Certainly not the most colourful or cheerful one....

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:56 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Today I am beyond thrilled to have secured the loan of a drawing by George Grosz to the exhibition I am curating at the law firm I work at.

It's image number 8 in this slideshow.

great stuff... in George Grosz, politics and art definitely hold hands! he has a fascinating biography...

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:30 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Today I am beyond thrilled to have secured the loan of a drawing by George Grosz to the exhibition I am curating at the law firm I work at.

It's image number 8 in this slideshow.
And which slideshow might this be then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01hsnm8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tremendous! I love Grosz. (And Goya).

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:08 pm

this is the way to design electricity pylons!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:44 am

Confused? Yes, and not afraid to admit it. This is great art?

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/vide ... ian-searle" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:58 am

Ah, it's that time of year again, where everyone turns into Peter Kay, art critic

.

MODERN? ART? MODERN ART? What's that all about?

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:59 am

Prufrock wrote:Ah, it's that time of year again, where everyone turns into Peter Kay, art critic .

MODERN? ART? MODERN ART? What's that all about?

... & why not ?

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:59 am

Prufrock wrote:Ah, it's that time of year again, where everyone turns into Peter Kay, art critic .

MODERN? ART? MODERN ART? What's that all about?

don't bite, Pru... it never goes well!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:05 pm

Prufrock wrote:Ah, it's that time of year again, where everyone turns into Peter Kay, art critic .

MODERN? ART? MODERN ART? What's that all about?

The emphasis isn't on the "modern" bit, at least not for me. It's today, and people don't walk about in suits of armour any more, or have to be painted that way. There are some truly great modern painters I really admire. It's the "art" bit that's confusing.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:08 pm

I hate to say something so bland, but the Turner Prize is what it is - its remit is to give the oxygen of publicity to that which is 'new' - every year. Anything 'traditional' is excluded by definition.

Actually I rather like George Shaw's paintings. We have one in my collection at work. http://www.simmonscontemporary.com/brow ... w&t=&m=&l=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anwyay, what on earth caused you to dredge up Turner Prize nominees from years ago?!

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:11 pm

William the White wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Today I am beyond thrilled to have secured the loan of a drawing by George Grosz to the exhibition I am curating at the law firm I work at.

It's image number 8 in this slideshow.
And which slideshow might this be then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01hsnm8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tremendous! I love Grosz. (And Goya).

John in John, The Woman Slayer is actually LeverEnd. A startling likeness to our own be-stubbled serial killer.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:17 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I hate to say something so bland, but the Turner Prize is what it is - its remit is to give the oxygen of publicity to that which is 'new' - every year. Anything 'traditional' is excluded by definition.

Actually I rather like George Shaw's paintings. We have one in my collection at work. http://www.simmonscontemporary.com/brow ... w&t=&m=&l=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anwyay, what on earth caused you to dredge up Turner Prize nominees from years ago?!

Nothing more than seeing it as a side clip on the video that Hoss posted.

LeverEnd · Post by **LeverEnd** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:14 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:John in John, The Woman Slayer is actually LeverEnd. A startling likeness to our own be-stubbled serial killer.

Uncanny!

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:38 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:John in John, The Woman Slayer is actually LeverEnd. A startling likeness to our own be-stubbled serial killer.
Uncanny!

Fear not, my friend. We unknowing types are spoonfully fed into the world of the the art expert thusly;

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: War tends to be 'a bit bleak'!

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:44 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:John in John, The Woman Slayer is actually LeverEnd. A startling likeness to our own be-stubbled serial killer.
Uncanny!
Fear not, my friend. We unknowing types are spoonfully fed into the world of the the art expert thusly;

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: War tends to be 'a bit bleak'!

Which reminds me... you know the joyous day you spent at MOMA, such a surprise to you that you sent me two text messages about it across half the world while I was in Istanbul, overwhelmed by islamic architecture and you were blown away by Picasso...

You still haven't shared it with the rest of us... this guilty secret... like the novice at the convent who had a little frolic...

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:59 pm

William the White wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Which reminds me... you know the joyous day you spent at MOMA, such a surprise to you that you sent me two text messages about it across half the world while I was in Istanbul, overwhelmed by islamic architecture and you were blown away by Picasso...

You still haven't shared it with the rest of us... this guilty secret... like the novice at the convent who had a little frolic...

Ooooh yes .... please share.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:18 am

William the White wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:John in John, The Woman Slayer is actually LeverEnd. A startling likeness to our own be-stubbled serial killer.
Uncanny!
Fear not, my friend. We unknowing types are spoonfully fed into the world of the the art expert thusly;

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: War tends to be 'a bit bleak'!

Which reminds me... you know the joyous day you spent at MOMA, such a surprise to you that you sent me two text messages about it across half the world while I was in Istanbul, overwhelmed by islamic architecture and you were blown away by Picasso...

You still haven't shared it with the rest of us... this guilty secret... like the novice at the convent who had a little frolic...

I have to put together a whole New York trip thing, I think, Will. Though I didn't get to take nearly enough photo's of anything. You mention the afternoon I spent at MoMA and I'd liken it to my visit to the Dakota Building. I couldn't care less if I never hear another Beatles song again, but to stand on the spot where John Lennon was murdered almost left me in tears.

Does that make any sense in the way that I mean it?

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:32 am

Bruce Rioja wrote: .... to stand on the spot where John Lennon was murdered almost left me in tears.

Yep. To think ... a man with a loaded gun waited hours outside the Dakota for John and Yoko to return home before he fired 5 or 6 shots and every one missed Yoko.

Terrible, terrible.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:05 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Though I didn't get to take nearly enough photo's of anything.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:41 pm

My show isn't all totally bleak... visually, at any rate.

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