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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by bobo the clown » Mon May 12, 2014 11:38 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:They say 'Freeview 229' if that helps?

Apologies about the picture!
Regrettably FreeView Ch.229 says it's a data channel. I guess it needs something uploading.

I guess it'll find its way to YouTube.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon May 12, 2014 11:39 am

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:They say 'Freeview 229' if that helps?

Apologies about the picture!
Regrettably FreeView Ch.229 says it's a data channel. I guess it needs something uploading.

I guess it'll find its way to YouTube.
Yes - my folks have never had it working.

It needs to be connected to the internet or updated.... or something else I'm not sure about.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 12, 2014 11:42 am

I have a 42" television. Will the show fit onto it?
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Mon May 12, 2014 11:49 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:I have a 42" television. Will the show fit onto it?

If he's talking about the Venus De Milo you'll be fine. 8)

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon May 12, 2014 6:27 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:I have a 42" television. Will the show fit onto it?

If he's talking about the Venus De Milo you'll be fine. 8)
Matisse sculpted the Venus de Milo? Good heavens!
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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon May 12, 2014 7:15 pm

It's a snail. I'm sure I'll see it eventually, but.....

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Mon May 12, 2014 10:34 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:I have a 42" television. Will the show fit onto it?

If he's talking about the Venus De Milo you'll be fine. 8)
Matisse sculpted the Venus de Milo? Good heavens!
Of course not. The joke was he wouldn't see the whole screen so it wouldn't matter if he was talking about the armless miss de milo.

But you knew that of course.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue May 13, 2014 2:25 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:It's a snail. I'm sure I'll see it eventually, but.....

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue May 13, 2014 11:05 pm

Did anyone catch it? I'll have an online link in about a week, I suppose. Otherwise it's going to be reshown at different times in the schedule several times over the next fortnight, so if you search for 'Matisse' on Sky you will be able to record.

I'm quite proud of it - a definite improvement on the Pop Art show.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri May 16, 2014 11:28 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5STEoqVwRg#t=51" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This looks magnificent - the recreation of the Fighting Temeraire and the sunset is epic.

I presume the plummy guy waxing lyrical about Turner's works to him is Ruskin. In which case, I hope the film shows Turner saying of Ruskin: 'He sees more in my pictures than I ever painted.' It's a line all theorising art historians should remember...
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Post by bobo the clown » Fri May 16, 2014 11:43 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5STEoqVwRg#t=51

This looks magnificent - the recreation of the Fighting Temeraire and the sunset is epic.

I presume the plummy guy waxing lyrical about Turner's works to him is Ruskin. In which case, I hope the film shows Turner saying of Ruskin: 'He sees more in my pictures than I ever painted.' It's a line all theorising art historians should remember...
Which, when I say it, you roll your eyes and call me a heathen.

I mean .... Matisse's snail. C'mon !!
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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri May 16, 2014 12:01 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5STEoqVwRg#t=51

This looks magnificent - the recreation of the Fighting Temeraire and the sunset is epic.

I presume the plummy guy waxing lyrical about Turner's works to him is Ruskin. In which case, I hope the film shows Turner saying of Ruskin: 'He sees more in my pictures than I ever painted.' It's a line all theorising art historians should remember...
Looking forward to that one with gusto. Timothy Spall is actually one hell of a good actor, but I'd see it whoever played Turner.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri May 16, 2014 12:02 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5STEoqVwRg#t=51

This looks magnificent - the recreation of the Fighting Temeraire and the sunset is epic.

I presume the plummy guy waxing lyrical about Turner's works to him is Ruskin. In which case, I hope the film shows Turner saying of Ruskin: 'He sees more in my pictures than I ever painted.' It's a line all theorising art historians should remember...
Which, when I say it, you roll your eyes and call me a heathen.

I mean .... Matisse's snail. C'mon !!

I'm saying we should bear it in mind as an encouragement to humility, not stop theorising altogether!

I might have a YouTube link of my Snail theorising this PM.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon May 19, 2014 3:56 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Did anyone catch it? I'll have an online link in about a week, I suppose. Otherwise it's going to be reshown at different times in the schedule several times over the next fortnight, so if you search for 'Matisse' on Sky you will be able to record.

I'm quite proud of it - a definite improvement on the Pop Art show.
And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MSrVJ ... 82aj8LccEA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still lots of things to be smoothed out, but I was reassured to read this morning that Lord Clark had made over 50 documentaries before he came to film his Civilisation series!
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon May 19, 2014 4:24 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Did anyone catch it? I'll have an online link in about a week, I suppose. Otherwise it's going to be reshown at different times in the schedule several times over the next fortnight, so if you search for 'Matisse' on Sky you will be able to record.

I'm quite proud of it - a definite improvement on the Pop Art show.
And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MSrVJ ... 82aj8LccEA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still lots of things to be smoothed out, but I was reassured to read this morning that Lord Clark had made over 50 documentaries before he came to film his Civilisation series!
You seem much more confident and comfortable this time. The ramrod up your rear has become flexible. Hard to guess it was only your second effort.

However, I must protest the accuracy of some of what you say. For example you tell us Icarus fell to earth when the wings he made melted through flying too close to the sun. But he didn't make the wings - his father Daedalus did. :wink:
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Post by William the White » Mon May 19, 2014 4:28 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Did anyone catch it? I'll have an online link in about a week, I suppose. Otherwise it's going to be reshown at different times in the schedule several times over the next fortnight, so if you search for 'Matisse' on Sky you will be able to record.

I'm quite proud of it - a definite improvement on the Pop Art show.
And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MSrVJ ... 82aj8LccEA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still lots of things to be smoothed out, but I was reassured to read this morning that Lord Clark had made over 50 documentaries before he came to film his Civilisation series!
Hugely enjoyed that. And am looking forward to the exhibition very much - now likely to be early July.

For those who enjoy mummy's presentation but can't make it to London, this is on at cine world, Bolton and all over the country on June 3. :D :D :D

http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/film/ci ... ate-modern" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by KeyserSoze » Mon May 19, 2014 4:31 pm

You'll have a blast at the exhibition, Will. Really enjoyed it. Some of the things on display were breathtaking.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 19, 2014 4:33 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Did anyone catch it? I'll have an online link in about a week, I suppose. Otherwise it's going to be reshown at different times in the schedule several times over the next fortnight, so if you search for 'Matisse' on Sky you will be able to record.

I'm quite proud of it - a definite improvement on the Pop Art show.
And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MSrVJ ... 82aj8LccEA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still lots of things to be smoothed out, but I was reassured to read this morning that Lord Clark had made over 50 documentaries before he came to film his Civilisation series!
You seem much more confident and comfortable this time. The ramrod up your rear has become flexible. Hard to guess it was only your second effort.

However, I must protest the accuracy of some of what you say. For example you tell us Icarus fell to earth when the wings he made melted through flying too close to the sun. But he didn't make the wings - his father Daedalus did. :wink:
But you're happy to believe that he flew too close to the sun though? Oooookaaaaaaaaay?! ;)
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Bruce Rioja wrote:
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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Did anyone catch it? I'll have an online link in about a week, I suppose. Otherwise it's going to be reshown at different times in the schedule several times over the next fortnight, so if you search for 'Matisse' on Sky you will be able to record.

I'm quite proud of it - a definite improvement on the Pop Art show.
And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MSrVJ ... 82aj8LccEA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still lots of things to be smoothed out, but I was reassured to read this morning that Lord Clark had made over 50 documentaries before he came to film his Civilisation series!
You seem much more confident and comfortable this time. The ramrod up your rear has become flexible. Hard to guess it was only your second effort.

However, I must protest the accuracy of some of what you say. For example you tell us Icarus fell to earth when the wings he made melted through flying too close to the sun. But he didn't make the wings - his father Daedalus did. :wink:
But you're happy to believe that he flew too close to the sun though? Oooookaaaaaaaaay?! ;)
Well, PB noted Icarus was mythological - I just insisted on mythological accuracy! I hadn't realized the Snail was so large until I saw it against PB's stature.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon May 19, 2014 4:54 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:The ramrod up your rear has become flexible.
:lol:

Thanks, Monty.
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