The Politics Thread

[bwfcdan94]

I'm not on about minority turnout. I'm on about minority of the votes cast. I don't know about the individual views of each potential MEP, but when they are announced, the MEPs who are members of parties who favour staying in the EU will outnumber those who favour leaving. I don't need to play the numbers. That's the will of the people.

The rest of that^ is just meaningless epithets. No-one is telling you how to think, no-one is telling you who to be like. You have plenty in common with Europeans. As for the numbers game and picking and choosing. It's a bit rich to accuse me of that and then completely discount London!

You seem to think you speak for the 'will of the people' but yet again the results show that's nonsense.

More people are pissed off with the EU, certainly. More may want to leave it. They're still a minority, and still by some way.

Where are all these people then? where are the votes of this massive majority? Not there, maybe they are just apathetic and don't hold the EU so dear?


Face it the establishment just got a good kick in the nuts and there is more to come, the liberal love all policies from the 60's 70's and 80's are slowly unrapping.

Hoboh, have you seen the percentage share of the vote?

Labour: 31%
Conservative: 29%
UKIP: 17%
Lib Dem: 13%

That is the projected share national share of the vote based on last nights results.

I think what PRU is saying is that 83% of voters didn't vote UKIP. 83% of voters voted for parties that want to stay in the EU. Is 83% not a massive majority?

Yet you are claiming the exact opposite, that a massive majority are voting for UKIP.

I'm confused.....

What about the other 10% did they vote for irrelevant parties like the Green party

Oi you, f*ck off.

1-0, wummery in it's most basic of forms, although we all know that in reality the Green party are very much irrelevant in the same way the BNP is.

[Worthy4England]

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I found this quite funny.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No no no no.
Currently they are irrelevant on the same scale of voter footfall, but are clearly not irrelevant in exactly the same way as the BNP. In fact I'll stick my neck out and suggest they are irrelevant in entirely opposite ways to the BNfeckinP.

[bwfcdan94]

I voted for an even more pointless party mind in the European election. Sadly in my local election I was the only person(probably)who voted Labour, the blues one as per usual

[bwfcdan94]

Out of interest who won in Bolton or hasn't it been announced yet.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I used to believe that socialists were nice but misguided. Now I know that they are not nice at all. They are very vicious and aggresive people who do really horinle things".

Not quite PC there then Mrs-feckin-drool-lips. No condescension evident, no stereotyping at all, oh no siree.

Paraphrased Gove's missus says "All Labour Voters are c*nts".

Nice.

[a1]

# whyimvotingUKIP because i love it when a shitload of smug hipsters hijack a hashtag and i have to counter them , which bizarrely is what the original hashtag was meant to get me to do*

* i didnt vote for them, but it reminded me of all the born again chimp in a suit / that numb he fell off a segway bollocks about george bush 2 .

it misses the point and now these 'funny' types look like dicks now theyve voted them in

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

but they'll probably just remember it as another thing they can blame mrs thatcher for.

[Hoboh]

whats that line about statistics again?

Here's one for you - 7750%.

That's the percentage growth in the number of Ukip council seats.

You normally only see those kind of percentages on payday loans...........

[a1]

I used to believe that socialists were nice but misguided. Now I know that they are not nice at all. They are very vicious and aggresive people who do really horinle things".

Not quite PC there then Mrs-feckin-drool-lips. No condescension evident, no stereotyping at all, oh no siree.

Paraphrased Gove's missus says "All Labour Voters are c*nts".

Nice.

that's seeing what you want in something someone has said , which is not what paraphrasing means .

but maybe she has a point


i'll assume the horinle thing is a typo for horrible , and not some posh word i dont know.

[BWFC_Insane]

whats that line about statistics again?

Here's one for you - 7750%.

That's the percentage growth in the number of Ukip council seats.

You normally only see those kind of percentages on payday loans...........

That's quite some twisting of the numbers.

Struggling that less than a fifth of voters agreed with you eh?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Who said paraphrasing... I said stereotyping.

You can stereotype 'Socialists'

You cannot stereotype Gove... The drool lipped cnut is a one-off. Apart from his missus, obviously. And you, maybe...

[edit: that was in answer to a1, but as usual Insano stuck his oar in first].

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Who said paraphrasing... I said stereotyping.

You can stereotype 'Socialists'

You cannot stereotype Gove... The drool lipped cnut is a one-off. Apart from his missus, obviously. And you, maybe...

[edit: that was in answer to a1, but as usual Insano stuck his oar in first].

Oh, hang on. You're calling me a socialist...

[a1]

Who said paraphrasing... I said stereotyping.

You can stereotype 'Socialists'

You cannot stereotype Gove... The drool lipped cnut is a one-off. Apart from his missus, obviously. And you, maybe...

[edit: that was in answer to a1, but as usual Insano stuck his oar in first].

you 'paraphrased' (your wording) what micheal gove's wife said as ; labour voters = c*nts .

but she didnt say anything like that , i dont know what she's been reading to come up with the conclusion she has, but my guess is smug bastards on twitter. i dont know what she does.

i've not assumed you are a socialist at all , i'd [now] guess youre a teacher who is frightened he'll have to work til he's 65 , possibly all not at the same school like in days past . but thats just a guess and not really relevant .

i did assume you were 'labour' or whatever but that was obivious assumption based on what you typed, following further "correspondence" i'd put more money on the teacher thing.

but i didnt conclude what you did (about the labour voters = c*nts thing ) off what she said there, you'd have to presume a lot of things to surmise that she meant that.

i'd think she'd been seeing her husband get stick on the internet , clicking a few follow on links and finding profile pages with "labour supporter" on the trollers page/site , even though its expected considering what his job is. i might be wrong with that guess.. but it would fit, i suppose.

i at no time thought "she means labour voters are c*nts" off the thirty or so words quoted on here.

[bwfcdan94]

I see Labour won although UKIP did win a mere 2 seats.

[thebish]

UKIP have tried to explain away their 7% vote in London by claiming that they were the victims of "more media-savvy, well-educated population".

darn - those well-educated people!

[Bruce Rioja]

I've been away and only have a basic idea as to what's gone on. Can anyone let me have a link to a thorough breakdown? Much appreciated if so. Cheers.

[Hoboh]

I've been away and only have a basic idea as to what's gone on. Can anyone let me have a link to a thorough breakdown? Much appreciated if so. Cheers.

I'd tell you Bruce but then Pru and BWFCi would put their spin on it and thebish would warp wood

[Hoboh]

I see Labour won although UKIP did win a mere 2 seats.

Lets help you here a little dan.

In most parts of Bolton a dead pig with a red rosette stuck to it's ass would get elected, then one day those nasty liberal types had the cheek to gain control of the council, they in turn imploded over the bins.
The dead pigs then decided take out insurance by inviting waifs and strays from across Europe (not to mention buttering up the local Immans) to join the 'Bolton family' and merely expected a sympathetic vote in return, so for a newish party to gain two seats is a major achievement.
No doubt the dead pigs are setting aside plans for some Ukrainian brothers in case Putin loses patience, to fight off the newcomers, simples!

[Hoboh]

UKIP have tried to explain away their 7% vote in London by claiming that they were the victims of "more media-savvy, well-educated population".

darn - those well-educated people!

No wonder Ukip couldn't succeed in the capital. London is the place that Ukip warns about, the realisation of its worst nightmares. As the 2011 census revealed, white Britons are now a minority in London, accounting for only 45% of the city's population. More than 40% of Londoners were born overseas. Christians form the largest religious group, but they are no longer a majority. The highest proportion of Muslims (and every other religion) in Britain is to be found in London, where (often African) churches, mosques, temples and synagogues thrive.

[Worthy4England]

UKIP have tried to explain away their 7% vote in London by claiming that they were the victims of "more media-savvy, well-educated population".

darn - those well-educated people!

No wonder Ukip couldn't succeed in the capital. London is the place that Ukip warns about, the realisation of its worst nightmares. As the 2011 census revealed, white Britons are now a minority in London, accounting for only 45% of the city's population. More than 40% of Londoners were born overseas. Christians form the largest religious group, but they are no longer a majority. The highest proportion of Muslims (and every other religion) in Britain is to be found in London, where (often African) churches, mosques, temples and synagogues thrive.

Did you grab that off the BNP website?