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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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Conservatives
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Liberal Democrats
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:06 pm

Interesting bit of nonsense in the weird, weird World of Welsh politics this last week ; Alun Davies, AM & Minster for the Environment has been pushing for the public spending of £260m (before overspend) on a Motor Racing circuit in Blaenau Gwent (I mean ... really !!). This has serious environmental implications. The Welsh agency for Environmental matters raised objections. The problem is HE is both AM for that area AND boss of that Agency.

He then wrote to the agency, explaining why they were wrong and should withdraw .... which they duly did.

This was a clear breach of ministerial etiquette and he was harangued for it last week. He was formally admonished but not, surprisingly, moved from his Ministerial role.

Then following that he demanded senior civil servants give him privileged information on 5 of the AM's who gave him a hard time. They refused, quite properly. So he came back at them. So they dobbed him in. Again, very properly. This time he's been forced to step down.

Welcome to this brief introduction to Welsh politics.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:40 am

bobo the clown wrote:Interesting bit of nonsense in the weird, weird World of Welsh politics this last week ; Alun Davies, AM & Minster for the Environment has been pushing for the public spending of £260m (before overspend) on a Motor Racing circuit in Blaenau Gwent (I mean ... really !!). This has serious environmental implications. The Welsh agency for Environmental matters raised objections. The problem is HE is both AM for that area AND boss of that Agency.

He then wrote to the agency, explaining why they were wrong and should withdraw .... which they duly did.

This was a clear breach of ministerial etiquette and he was harangued for it last week. He was formally admonished but not, surprisingly, moved from his Ministerial role.

Then following that he demanded senior civil servants give him privileged information on 5 of the AM's who gave him a hard time. They refused, quite properly. So he came back at them. So they dobbed him in. Again, very properly. This time he's been forced to step down.

Welcome to this brief introduction to Welsh politics.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:42 pm

Not sure whether to stick this on the art thread or the politics one, but I'm appalled at Northampton Borough Council being allowed to flog a statue of Sekhemka for £16m - I'd be appalled if they flogged it for any figure. So to Council Leader David Mackintosh - yer a tw@t - it wasn't yours to fcking sell and if you didn't want it, it should have gone back to Egypt.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:29 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Not sure whether to stick this on the art thread or the politics one, but I'm appalled at Northampton Borough Council being allowed to flog a statue of Sekhemka for £16m - I'd be appalled if they flogged it for any figure. So to Council Leader David Mackintosh - yer a tw@t - it wasn't yours to fcking sell and if you didn't want it, it should have gone back to Egypt.
Stick it on the Art thread too Worthy. Might get more comment. "Money is the root of all evil"
still very evident...
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:45 pm

Not to want to seem like I'm picking on you TD (:D), but why does that quote always get overcooked? "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" is far better than the glib falsehood that trips neatly out.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:52 pm

I prefer the much more succinct avarice. Or avaricious. Has a certain ring.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:02 pm

Nah, 'Avarice is ' is nasty.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:39 pm

Prufrock wrote:Not to want to seem like I'm picking on you TD (:D), but why does that quote always get overcooked? "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" is far better than the glib falsehood that trips neatly out.
Oh, feel free. It's only been around for two thousand years or so, so my mother shortening it was pretty normal after she heard the Andrew Sisters sing it as I said. Carry on though... :wink:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:47 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:I prefer the much more succinct avarice. Or avaricious. Has a certain ring.
It may depend on what translation of the Bible you are using for 1 Timothy 6:10. I was brought up on the King James version so it is 'love of money' there. I also had to take the Pardoner's Tale for O level English and he said avarice was the root. Since Chaucer wrote before the KJV I suppose he must have used John Wycliffe's version.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:19 am

Gove's now Commons Chief Whip, then. Crusader stopped in his tracks.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Gary the Enfield » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:05 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:Gove's now Commons Chief Whip, then. Crusader Idiot stopped in his tracks before he did too much damage.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:13 pm

Ideology...yay. Ideology....no!
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:15 pm

Gary the Enfield wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:Gove's now Commons Chief Whip, then. Crusader Idiot stopped in his tracks before he did too much damage.
well, yeah.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Athers » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:51 pm

I really like Hague so a shame to see him depart the scene next year.

As for Gove.. Well. Of all the load of departments the Conservatives planned to radically reform perhaps he was the most 'enthusiastic' and even maybe most 'successful' at carrying it through? Everyone involved in the entire profession seems to hate him but what I don't know is how parents have received the reforms.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:16 pm

Athers wrote:I really like Hague so a shame to see him depart the scene next year.

As for Gove.. Well. Of all the load of departments the Conservatives planned to radically reform perhaps he was the most 'enthusiastic' and even maybe most 'successful' at carrying it through? Everyone involved in the entire profession seems to hate him but what I don't know is how parents have received the reforms.
As a parent - not sure I've noticed much one way or t'other to be honest...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Gary the Enfield » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:56 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Athers wrote:I really like Hague so a shame to see him depart the scene next year.

As for Gove.. Well. Of all the load of departments the Conservatives planned to radically reform perhaps he was the most 'enthusiastic' and even maybe most 'successful' at carrying it through? Everyone involved in the entire profession seems to hate him but what I don't know is how parents have received the reforms.
As a parent - not sure I've noticed much one way or t'other to be honest...

Do you have a child due to take GCSEs in three years time when the fruits of his reforms were due to ripen or wither on the vine?

I do. :evil:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:03 am

Athers wrote:I really like Hague so a shame to see him depart the scene next year.
As for Gove.. Well. Of all the load of departments the Conservatives planned to radically reform perhaps he was the most 'enthusiastic' and even maybe most 'successful' at carrying it through? Everyone involved in the entire profession seems to hate him but what I don't know is how parents have received the reforms.
O.M.G.G. :hang:

How can can you admit to liking a short arsed windbag like Vague, the man who would invade the world and bore them to death with his monotone!

Once Camoron and Georgie Porgie along with their harem have done one as well, the country will be a far better place.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:06 am

↑↑↑ So how does that work Hobes ?

You want Cameron and his chums out, Clegg and his ilk to disappear and all will be well ... so long as that doesn't let Miliband in.

I'm sure there's a flaw there, just looking for it right now.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:22 am

Athers wrote:
As for Gove.. Well. Of all the load of departments the Conservatives planned to radically reform perhaps he was the most 'enthusiastic' and even maybe most 'successful' at carrying it through? Everyone involved in the entire profession seems to hate him but what I don't know is how parents have received the reforms.
He was successful at mindless and ridiculous "I reckons" that is for sure. Despite overwhelming banks of independent evidence that he was wrong he maintained course. Sadly it seems to be a theme with this government. We'll ignore clever people cos we don't like listening.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:42 am

bobo the clown wrote:↑↑↑ So how does that work Hobes ?

You want Cameron and his chums out, Clegg and his ilk to disappear and all will be well ... so long as that doesn't let Miliband in.

I'm sure there's a flaw there, just looking for it right now.

UKIP, innit.

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