The Politics Thread

[Bijou Bob]

I am pretty sure they will make a difference but don't believe that they will be amongst the finest staff from the nhs.

Thats a bit below the belt!

Why?

he's right. I'm stopping at home.

[Burnden Paddock]

I am pretty sure they will make a difference but don't believe that they will be amongst the finest staff from the nhs.

Thats a bit below the belt!

Why?

he's right. I'm stopping at home.

Aren't you always staying at bloody home??

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Operation Trojan Horse school governors
Saudi religious police
Iranian Revolutionary Guard
Islamic Brotherhood
Hamas
Hezbollah
Taliban
Al-Shabab
Boko Haram
AQAP
Islamic State

(ranked in increasing 'islamification' quotient)

There are of course many more, but that's a cross section of organisations recently in the news. All have been portrayed as non-typical when bad shit is done on their behalf, but usually defended by the bleeding heart liberal left in western society.
But they are all described as 'Islamist', 'Terrorist', 'Jihadist' or 'Extremist'. This pisses me off, because actually as they themselves know they are merely Muslim.
Time to stop kidding people that Muslim and Islamist mean different things... they don't, they never have done.

And fxck off Hoboh, might not be your kind of politics but to your average Islamist (sarcasm) it is.
And to quote a British general, our own politicians are failing on this because instead of walking quietly like giants with a big stick they are screaming like banshees with tiny tiny twigs.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And to just ram home the point that you bleeding heart left wing cxnts are missing, because of your indifference and your passive-aggressive fundamental support of Muslim aggression against what you think of as Zionism, but is in fact anti-Semitism, in its most slimy aggresive format. Because of that anti-semitic incidents are up all over Europe. Petrol bombs in Germany, burnt synagogues in France, executed Jewish tourists in Belgium, and more antisemitic incidents in this country (excepting the month of July 2009).
So ask yourself this tosspots: would any war involving a Muslim state justify 'Islamophobia'? So why the fxck does Israel having a war justify the shite that pours forth from your fevered brows?
Here's a statistic
Muslim states have killed more than 80,00 people in the last year (and boy is that a conservative estimate!)
The only Jewish state is on about 2,000
Now look up how many Mosques have been burnt, how many Muslims killed versus how many Jews have been killed and Synagogues burnt.
I feel ashamed as a European to hear some of your pathetic whingeing anti-Semitic shit and I'd ask you to curb it.

[Montreal Wanderer]

And to just ram home the point that you bleeding heart left wing cxnts are missing, because of your indifference and your passive-aggressive fundamental support of Muslim aggression against what you think of as Zionism, but is in fact anti-Semitism, in its most slimy aggresive format. Because of that anti-semitic incidents are up all over Europe. Petrol bombs in Germany, burnt synagogues in France, executed Jewish tourists in Belgium, and more antisemitic incidents in this country (excepting the month of July 2009).
So ask yourself this tosspots: would any war involving a Muslim state justify 'Islamophobia'? So why the fxck does Israel having a war justify the shite that pours forth from your fevered brows?
Here's a statistic
Muslim states have killed more than 80,00 people in the last year (and boy is that a conservative estimate!)
The only Jewish state is on about 2,000
Now look up how many Mosques have been burnt, how many Muslims killed versus how many Jews have been killed and Synagogues burnt.
I feel ashamed as a European to hear some of your pathetic whingeing anti-Semitic shit and I'd ask you to curb it.

Calm down - we've trod down this road before and it never ends well. Opinions differ - just accept the fact. There are few converts these days.

[Hoboh]

WTF! me a "bleeding heart left wing cxnt".

You should have gone to spec savers.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

WTF! me a "bleeding heart left wing cxnt".

You should have gone to spec savers.

No you diverting it away from politics. Religion is Politics.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And to just ram home the point that you bleeding heart left wing cxnts are missing, because of your indifference and your passive-aggressive fundamental support of Muslim aggression against what you think of as Zionism, but is in fact anti-Semitism, in its most slimy aggresive format. Because of that anti-semitic incidents are up all over Europe. Petrol bombs in Germany, burnt synagogues in France, executed Jewish tourists in Belgium, and more antisemitic incidents in this country (excepting the month of July 2009).
So ask yourself this tosspots: would any war involving a Muslim state justify 'Islamophobia'? So why the fxck does Israel having a war justify the shite that pours forth from your fevered brows?
Here's a statistic
Muslim states have killed more than 80,00 people in the last year (and boy is that a conservative estimate!)
The only Jewish state is on about 2,000
Now look up how many Mosques have been burnt, how many Muslims killed versus how many Jews have been killed and Synagogues burnt.
I feel ashamed as a European to hear some of your pathetic whingeing anti-Semitic shit and I'd ask you to curb it.

Calm down - we've trod down this road before and it never ends well. Opinions differ - just accept the fact. There are few converts these days.

I've tried calming down... and still the shit continues. I really really really really don't understand people who support Hamas and say nothing against Islamic State.
I wasn't old enogh to fight against 'Hitler' but still feel disgust when similar pacifist shite is rolled out today.

[Hoboh]

WTF! me a "bleeding heart left wing cxnt".

You should have gone to spec savers.

No you diverting it away from politics. Religion is Politics.

Ah right, meself I just think religion is really the business of the individual and should stay that way or it becomes a pain in the ass!
IS would be on the end of B52's carpet bombing if it was up to me, shame it ain't.

[Harry Genshaw]

And to just ram home the point that you bleeding heart left wing cxnts are missing, because of your indifference and your passive-aggressive fundamental support of Muslim aggression against what you think of as Zionism, but is in fact anti-Semitism, in its most slimy aggresive format. Because of that anti-semitic incidents are up all over Europe. Petrol bombs in Germany, burnt synagogues in France, executed Jewish tourists in Belgium, and more antisemitic incidents in this country (excepting the month of July 2009).
So ask yourself this tosspots: would any war involving a Muslim state justify 'Islamophobia'? So why the fxck does Israel having a war justify the shite that pours forth from your fevered brows?
Here's a statistic
Muslim states have killed more than 80,00 people in the last year (and boy is that a conservative estimate!)
The only Jewish state is on about 2,000
Now look up how many Mosques have been burnt, how many Muslims killed versus how many Jews have been killed and Synagogues burnt.
I feel ashamed as a European to hear some of your pathetic whingeing anti-Semitic shit and I'd ask you to curb it.

The anger management. How's it going?

I'm very comfortable with my own criticism of Israel. I know that criticism is founded in what I believe to be their unfair and oppressive treatment of the Palestinians. Not sure what I can say to convince you I'm not anti semitic (personally I think all religion is bollocks) but I do know that many apologists for Israel throw that term around to try and deflect that states appalling behaviour.

[Prufrock]

Given this isn't a scratch Jewish XI vs a scratch Muslim XI I'm happy to unreservedly condemn the actions of any state which kills 500 innocent people for every 1 of its own killed.

Unless Maths has suddenly been apprpriated by the Nazis, I'm confident of saying that without the charge of anti-semitism sticking.

Embarrassing.

[boltonboris]

I take it somebody has had the audacity to disagree with something that LLS categorically knows more than everyone else on?

[TANGODANCER]

Ah right, meself I just think religion is really the business of the individual and should stay that way or it becomes a pain in the ass!
IS would be on the end of B52's carpet bombing if it was up to me, shame it ain't.

Whole-hearted agreement.

[bedwetter2]

Ah right, meself I just think religion is really the business of the individual and should stay that way or it becomes a pain in the ass!
IS would be on the end of B52's carpet bombing if it was up to me, shame it ain't.

Whole-hearted agreement.

If only muslims saw it that way. There is a fairly explicit understanding and expected requirement within that religion that Islam comes before and overrides any loyalty to a state, community, family, neighbours, etc.
The end result of that line of thinking is borne out in the attempts to convert, by force or subterfuge (whichever is most appropriate within a particular society) all non-believers - that includes you TD, infidel that you are.

You really can't expect muslims to follow your thinking that their religion is a personal preserve for the individual. Their religion is also their politics. There are really no moderates.

They are exporting their religion wherever they can get a foothold. I'm afraid I can see a civil war in this and other European countries within the next 30 years due to the limp-wristed attitudes and accommodating policies of politicians to muslims. Multi-cultural society! Pah!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Their religion is also their politics. There are really no moderates.

Utter nonsense.

[William the White]

And to just ram home the point that you bleeding heart left wing cxnts are missing, because of your indifference and your passive-aggressive fundamental support of Muslim aggression against what you think of as Zionism, but is in fact anti-Semitism, in its most slimy aggresive format. Because of that anti-semitic incidents are up all over Europe. Petrol bombs in Germany, burnt synagogues in France, executed Jewish tourists in Belgium, and more antisemitic incidents in this country (excepting the month of July 2009).
So ask yourself this tosspots: would any war involving a Muslim state justify 'Islamophobia'? So why the fxck does Israel having a war justify the shite that pours forth from your fevered brows?
Here's a statistic
Muslim states have killed more than 80,00 people in the last year (and boy is that a conservative estimate!)
The only Jewish state is on about 2,000
Now look up how many Mosques have been burnt, how many Muslims killed versus how many Jews have been killed and Synagogues burnt.
I feel ashamed as a European to hear some of your pathetic whingeing anti-Semitic shit and I'd ask you to curb it.

It's impossible to have any kind of discussion with someone whose default position is moronic abuse.

May I ask you to curb it?

[bedwetter2]

Their religion is also their politics. There are really no moderates.

Utter nonsense.

Just because you lived or live amongst them, oh son of the desert, doesn't mean that you know them on a deeper level. There are no working democracies which I am aware of in muslim dominated countries. The pluralism which we live with doesn't exist in such societies. I too have lived in both Eygpt and Algeria and I can assure that beneath a sometimes urbane exterior the same objectives lurk.

Sure, the leaders of oil producing states are likely to come across as moderate because they need the West and its' technology in order to maintain their positions, but it is a precarious position that they adopt often being disliked or even hated by their own people. Watch what happens when the oil runs out - it could be very bloody.

[Prufrock]

F*ck me, don't look under the bed.

I'd watch out for that Sadiq Khan, too.

[bedwetter2]

F*ck me, don't look under the bed.

I'd watch out for that Sadiq Khan, too.

Ha! Do you remember that old saying about reds under the bed? It seems that you do. There was some 270 million people in the old Soviet Union, a large proportion of whom were less than committed to the socialist principles of that state. The Soviets were the main threat to the West (China had no power to speak of).

Muslim states account for more than 2 billion of the current world population and are outbreeding Western populations by a factor of at least 2. All evidence from current conflicts, asymetrical or not, points to a level of threat to our liberal societies much greater than during the 'cold war' era.

I assume by Sadiq Khan you mean that ineffective socialist politician. Waste of time.

So, not so much muslims under the bed as in, on top, under and surrounding it.

[thebish]

^ where is this bed, exactly??