The Politics Thread

[Beefheart]

if your man next door kept moving his fence into your garden inch by inch I'm sure you'd just shove the FT over your head and go back to sleep!

It's not his garden.

Some of his grass/flowers/weeds maybe resident in your garden.

Yeah, but only because they were once part of a big garden, called the Union of Soviet Socialist Gardens. When that dissolved and the gardens given back to their rightful owners and the fences put back up, some of his flowers remained. He then also kept control of all of the compost and could withhold it if you didn't go along with him, or even threaten to send a load of weed killer over the fence.

[Hoboh]

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Looks like Putin's won

[Gary the Enfield]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/s ... atist-east

Looks like Putin's won

Perhaps the Scots and Welsh may take up arms.........

[Hoboh]

All that hot air!

[malcd1]

I know. All those people who care about our planet. Tossers the lot of them.

[Hoboh]

I know. All those people who care about our planet. Tossers the lot of them.

I'd be pleased to devolve more power to them,
So they could fund whatever they want, with their own reconditioned pound notes (never accept the brown tinted ones).
There you go I'm more sensitive than I thought.
More than you

[William the White]

I know. All those people who care about our planet. Tossers the lot of them.

I believe quite a lot of them are foreign. Always a cause for deep suspicion in the eyes of the tramp.

[Prufrock]

I've started to think there's something charmingly mad about people who still reject the idea of climate change.

[Lord Kangana]

They fall into a fairly easily defined demographic - Daily Mail readers.

[William the White]

They fall into a fairly easily defined demographic - Daily Mail readers.

In which case Prufrock might wish to reconsider the 'charming' part of his post...

[Prufrock]

Nope. It's past any claim to remotely being a proper view now. They're like the Flat Earthers or the tin foil hat people.

[Beefheart]

[Hoboh]

Nope. It's past any claim to remotely being a proper view now. They're like the Flat Earthers or the tin foil hat people.

What! There is and always has been climate change, I just doubt the buggers who get rich pushing 'green' things or taxing everything and crackpots telling us it's cows farting thats the problem. Christ on a bike I'll bet those flamin' big Dinos did some right royal farts, but then wasn't it the ice age that followed?

[Hoboh]

Ed Miliband this afternoon demanded a full UN Security Council resolution to authorise military action on ISIS.

And you wonder why with a government as crap as the current lot you ain't out of sight in the poll numbers

DO YOU THINK FOR ONE MINUTE RUSSIA AND CHINA WILL AGREE WITH A RESOLUTION?

Boy have you got some learning to do, unfortunately playing politics with peoples lives is not very clever, or do you have to have a UN mandate for everything? In that case you won't be doing very much Mr Millipede.

[William the White]

Ed Miliband this afternoon demanded a full UN Security Council resolution to authorise military action on ISIS.

And you wonder why with a government as crap as the current lot you ain't out of sight in the poll numbers

DO YOU THINK FOR ONE MINUTE RUSSIA AND CHINA WILL AGREE WITH A RESOLUTION?

Boy have you got some learning to do, unfortunately playing politics with peoples lives is not very clever, or do you have to have a UN mandate for everything? In that case you won't be doing very much Mr Millipede.

And the hoboh solution is no politics, just heavy machine guns and mushroom clouds?

I don't think there's any chance that Russia can be brought on board as long as they are 'the enemy'. I think there's every chance they could be if they weren't. Russia has had a grand old time combating Jihadists in Chechnya - and alleged intelligence says many Chechen volunteers are in the ISIS army. and much more valuable, seriously battle-hardened than Islamic volunteers from UK and other Western nations (tho seemingly the latter can assemble the necessary skills to behead people in the most brutal way, which is very brave of them, and undoubtedly pleases their God!).

China is just now discovering it has problems with aspiring Jihadists. They may be prepared to avoid a veto.

Western intervention in the Middle East sure has proved effective in getting rid of tyrants and building democracy.

[Hoboh]

Ed Miliband this afternoon demanded a full UN Security Council resolution to authorise military action on ISIS.

And you wonder why with a government as crap as the current lot you ain't out of sight in the poll numbers

DO YOU THINK FOR ONE MINUTE RUSSIA AND CHINA WILL AGREE WITH A RESOLUTION?

Boy have you got some learning to do, unfortunately playing politics with peoples lives is not very clever, or do you have to have a UN mandate for everything? In that case you won't be doing very much Mr Millipede.

And the hoboh solution is no politics, just heavy machine guns and mushroom clouds?

I don't think there's any chance that Russia can be brought on board as long as they are 'the enemy'. I think there's every chance they could be if they weren't. Russia has had a grand old time combating Jihadists in Chechnya - and alleged intelligence says many Chechen volunteers are in the ISIS army. and much more valuable, seriously battle-hardened than Islamic volunteers from UK and other Western nations (tho seemingly the latter can assemble the necessary skills to behead people in the most brutal way, which is very brave of them, and undoubtedly pleases their God!). bb

China is just now discovering it has problems with aspiring Jihadists. They may be prepared to avoid a veto.

Western intervention in the Middle East sure has proved effective in getting rid of tyrants and building democracy.

No hoboh would put boots on the ground along with Arab soldiers.
To also help matters along I would talk to the Iranians and the Iraqi government to assure them after people have started to return to their homes, we would all pull out. I would also talk to Assad and get him on board, afterwards he would be advised 'it wouldn't be the brightest idea to hang about', promise him a little Island, then when he agreed drop him on a uninhabited place, mid pacific, then tip off the oppo's where he was.
Yes Russia and China do have problems, but then again their opponents have not a prayer of a 'right to a family life' there.

Anyway, simple yes/no
Do you think Milliband is not just playing a politics game with Camoron, or is he being cynical if goes belly up we've got clean ham eeeerr hands!

[William the White]

Ed Miliband this afternoon demanded a full UN Security Council resolution to authorise military action on ISIS.

And you wonder why with a government as crap as the current lot you ain't out of sight in the poll numbers

DO YOU THINK FOR ONE MINUTE RUSSIA AND CHINA WILL AGREE WITH A RESOLUTION?

Boy have you got some learning to do, unfortunately playing politics with peoples lives is not very clever, or do you have to have a UN mandate for everything? In that case you won't be doing very much Mr Millipede.

And the hoboh solution is no politics, just heavy machine guns and mushroom clouds?

I don't think there's any chance that Russia can be brought on board as long as they are 'the enemy'. I think there's every chance they could be if they weren't. Russia has had a grand old time combating Jihadists in Chechnya - and alleged intelligence says many Chechen volunteers are in the ISIS army. and much more valuable, seriously battle-hardened than Islamic volunteers from UK and other Western nations (tho seemingly the latter can assemble the necessary skills to behead people in the most brutal way, which is very brave of them, and undoubtedly pleases their God!). bb

China is just now discovering it has problems with aspiring Jihadists. They may be prepared to avoid a veto.

Western intervention in the Middle East sure has proved effective in getting rid of tyrants and building democracy.

No hoboh would put boots on the ground along with Arab soldiers.
To also help matters along I would talk to the Iranians and the Iraqi government to assure them after people have started to return to their homes, we would all pull out. I would also talk to Assad and get him on board, afterwards he would be advised 'it wouldn't be the brightest idea to hang about', promise him a little Island, then when he agreed drop him on a uninhabited place, mid pacific, then tip off the oppo's where he was.
Yes Russia and China do have problems, but then again their opponents have not a prayer of a 'right to a family life' there.

Anyway, simple yes/no
Do you think Milliband is not just playing a politics game with Camoron, or is he being cynical if goes belly up we've got clean ham eeeerr hands!

Simple yes no is impossible. you can't do that when you have two choices.

[Hoboh]

Suggests at least one option is right then and you don't quite agree with the other.

[thebish]

so - it seems Abu Qatada is not guilty.

(Hobes - apologies may be posted here! )

[William the White]

so - it seems Abu Qatada is not guilty.

(Hobes - apologies may be posted here! )

He's still a foreigner with a beard. Go on, get out of that one if you can.