The Politics Thread

[Hoboh]

Hoboh - are you on some kind of anti-EU media-watch alert programme that notifies you of any anti-EU-type stories so you can get angry about them - or do you spend most of the day trawling the Guardian and the BBC and the Mail to find such stories?

No I just wish the Stevie Wonders of this world would wake up to the fact they are sleep walking democracy away, the EU will one day take away your right to vote for anything meaningful, it will be left to the know it all commissioners.
You cannot put the genie back in the bottle.

[Hoboh]

Hoboh - are you on some kind of anti-EU media-watch alert programme that notifies you of any anti-EU-type stories so you can get angry about them - or do you spend most of the day trawling the Guardian and the BBC and the Mail to find such stories?

Not sure how he's missed the one about EU migrants paying in a shitload more than they've taken out?!

Maybe we should be welcoming them in by the "Literally busloads" afterall

Here it is; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29910497" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nope never missed it

Was busy with the fruit cakes in the Guardian comments on that one

You're feckin evil, you are...

[Worthy4England]

Hoboh - are you on some kind of anti-EU media-watch alert programme that notifies you of any anti-EU-type stories so you can get angry about them - or do you spend most of the day trawling the Guardian and the BBC and the Mail to find such stories?

Not sure how he's missed the one about EU migrants paying in a shitload more than they've taken out?!

Maybe we should be welcoming them in by the "Literally busloads" afterall

Here it is; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29910497" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Aye I was waiting for him to post that one too...

[Hoboh]

Hoboh - are you on some kind of anti-EU media-watch alert programme that notifies you of any anti-EU-type stories so you can get angry about them - or do you spend most of the day trawling the Guardian and the BBC and the Mail to find such stories?

Not sure how he's missed the one about EU migrants paying in a shitload more than they've taken out?!

Maybe we should be welcoming them in by the "Literally busloads" afterall

Here it is; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29910497" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Aye I was waiting for him to post that one too...

If you look closely, they conveniently miss out the Romanian and Bulgarian influx, nor do they take into account how many of the indigenous population cannot find work because of them and they actually do say that total immigration cost £120 billion pa.
All this is before any account of zero hour contracts, depressed wages etc. things that effect ordinary blokes, the only people gaining are the likes of Amazon and we know they pay fook all in.

[Worthy4England]

Hoboh - are you on some kind of anti-EU media-watch alert programme that notifies you of any anti-EU-type stories so you can get angry about them - or do you spend most of the day trawling the Guardian and the BBC and the Mail to find such stories?

Not sure how he's missed the one about EU migrants paying in a shitload more than they've taken out?!

Maybe we should be welcoming them in by the "Literally busloads" afterall

Here it is; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29910497" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Aye I was waiting for him to post that one too...

If you look closely, they conveniently miss out the Romanian and Bulgarian influx, nor do they take into account how many of the indigenous population cannot find work because of them and they actually do say that total immigration cost £120 billion pa.
All this is before any account of zero hour contracts, depressed wages etc. things that effect ordinary blokes, the only people gaining are the likes of Amazon and we know they pay fook all in.

Right. Must be true then.

[Lord Kangana]

How did you manage to get from Bulgarians to Amazon in one sentence? You do understand the difference?

[Worthy4England]

How did you manage to get from Bulgarians to Amazon in one sentence? You do understand the difference?

Yes, silly. Amazons come from Brazil which is only on the fringes of Europe.

[Hoboh]

How did you manage to get from Bulgarians to Amazon in one sentence? You do understand the difference?

Easy, who walks around their warehouses picking, you could add Tesco and quite a few others.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... rial-scale" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The EU state of nations, all in it together or maybe not.

[malcd1]

I think the most interesting stats were the following.

EEA immigrants had made a fiscal contribution of £4.4bn between 1995 and 2011, non-EEA immigrants had made a negative net contribution of £118bn, and British people had made a negative net contribution of £591bn

In other words, European immigrants have contributed £5bn more in taxes that they take out since 2004.

Non-EU immigrants have cost the UK nearly £120bn in a 16 year period since 1995. Who are these and why do they cost so much? They can't all be seeking asylum.

The ones who really take more from the pot are the nationalised British people who cost us £591bn.

So if we get rid of the non-EU immigrants and British people, the UK would be looking very rosy.

[bobo the clown]

You may recall some bright spark in the home office in 2003 predicting that around 5,000 - 13,000 people would come into the UK from the new Eastern European EU member states.

Well, the report saying that we're vastly better off due to all this seems to have been written by him. How he has the nerve to express any opinions, let alone be listened to and taken seriously is beyond me. Talk about trying to prove your own bias.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Lond ... ely-small/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A little like someone saying there would be no riots now suggesting there are economic benefits to be had from broken glass.

I leave you to your own opinions. Nothing anyone says will change them anyway.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... -ucl-study" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Seems like £15 billion has been lost over a couple of days, Dammed Bulgarians and Romanian Roma!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29910497" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Freedom of movement is Merkels trauma from her childhood, it's a shrink she needs not a position of power.

[Worthy4England]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... -ucl-study

Seems like £15 billion has been lost over a couple of days, Dammed Bulgarians and Romanian Roma!

You can't actually read can you? And your maths is clearly not a strong point. I think we've identified a problem.

The original report that Bruce linked says that New EU migrants (that's those that come from the 10 countries that joined in 2004), contribute £5bn. And the link you posted says that those migrants from the original 15 EU countries contribute £15bn.

That's 5 PLUS 15....not 15 lost. Damned uneducated Brits. Could we replace Hoboh with a Lithuanian with a degree? I think we should....

[William the White]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... -ucl-study

Seems like £15 billion has been lost over a couple of days, Dammed Bulgarians and Romanian Roma!

You can't actually read can you? And your maths is clearly not a strong point. I think we've identified a problem.

The original report that Bruce linked says that New EU migrants (that's those that come from the 10 countries that joined in 2004), contribute £5bn. And the link you posted says that those migrants from the original 15 EU countries contribute £15bn.

That's 5 PLUS 15....not 15 lost. Damned uneducated Brits. Could we replace Hoboh with a Lithuanian with a degree? I think we should....

I think the Lithuanian's degree needs to be in media studies or hoboh will not be satisfied.

[Bruce Rioja]

Just seen George Osborne trying to come across as a tough nut. Oh dear. Get the chequebook out, David.

[Hoboh]

If you see this man inform the Police immediately, he is a cheat, con man and a liar also extremely dangerous.

[Hoboh]

I've paid it for love dear!

[Prufrock]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hirts.html

Ha,ha,ha.

Turns out that's not, in fact, true, and we CAN all in fact rely on Elle to be our defender of women's rights. So that's good.

[Hoboh]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hirts.html
Ha,ha,ha.

Turns out that's not, in fact, true, and we CAN all in fact rely on Elle to be our defender of women's rights. So that's good.

If you were suddenly faced with the sack in a place like that you'd change your tune just as quick And I'd bet you wouldn't use little North Korean fat boys dads ashtray either!

[Prufrock]

I don't make a habit of defending George Osbourne but....

The press can't now complain that he's included the automatic rebate in talking about how much the bill has been cut. If it was automatic, then why were you reporting it as £1.7bn then you pricks? You can't have it both ways, either.