Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

[Lost Leopard Spot]

and continuing the generalisation theme... here's another quote "We in the West should stop interfering in Islamic countries" - Dr Juaid Rafi, Muslim, Ipswich


So, it's ok to be a Muslim in the west persuing Muslim ideals but its equally legitimate to have Islamic societies closed off to all outside influence: in fact not just legitimate but an aim! Fxcking Brilliant.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

"Islam's foundational documents are violent" Ayaan Hirsi Ali
"the Prophet was a warrior who made it very clear that anyone who insulted him should be killed".

Have I out fxck-witted myself yet?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Ayaan Hirsi Ali again... "They will not desist until the whole world is subject to Islam. Its not just a war on the west it's a war on moderates and apostates. Its a war on any Muslim who develops a co-existence with non-Muslims. They are waging it across the whole globe and we keep pretending that it isn't there

[Prufrock]

So according to your viewpoint you accept there are muslims developing a co-existence with non-muslims?

[Worthy4England]

I don't understand how this is difficult. There are lots of good Muslims and in percentage terms a small minority of idiots using that particular banner for terrorist activities which includes actions against Westerners and land grabs against other Muslims. I'd say that was all about power, self aggrandisement and fck all to do with what "the prophet" might advocate.

[Prufrock]

Where in a ploy for a land grab does attacking a satirical comic fit in?

Or, say, you're Boko Harem, and you stop a bus and kill anyone who doesn't recognise the Quran?

[TANGODANCER]

Where in a ploy for a land grab does attacking a satirical comic fit in?

Or, say, you're Boko Harem, and you stop a bus and kill anyone who doesn't recognise the Quran?

Or say you're in Salford and you throw housebricks at a bus because the people on it beat your lot at football?

[Prufrock]

So...that wasn't *really* about football was it not? Just an excuse probably...

[Worthy4England]

Where in a ploy for a land grab does attacking a satirical comic fit in?

Or, say, you're Boko Harem, and you stop a bus and kill anyone who doesn't recognise the Quran?

Those would fit in with the bit where I said terrorist activities and action against Westerners rather than land grab. But I was giving you credit to be able to work that out for yourself.

[TANGODANCER]

So...that wasn't *really* about football was it not? Just an excuse probably...

I'd say it was about some unbalanced aggressive idiots rather than the fact that they are typical of all Salford. That was the point.

[Hoboh]

“We are all here today because the terrorist phenomenon concerns us all. It makes no distinction between countries or continents. We are resolute and determined to fight terrorism,” Cazeneuve said.

Three other moves were announced: reinforcement of controls at European external frontiers, a modification of the Schengen rules to tighten checks within Europe “while respecting the rules of free movement and privacy”, and the exchange of information on air passengers between EU members.

Not like people haven't been telling them about this is it?
Still swivel eyed loons can never be right can they.

[Hoboh]

I don't understand how this is difficult. There are lots of good Muslims and in percentage terms a small minority of idiots using that particular banner for terrorist activities which includes actions against Westerners and land grabs against other Muslims. I'd say that was all about power, self aggrandisement and fck all to do with what "the prophet" might advocate.

You like your figures, there are 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide just look at the figure for 1% of them being radical and extreme then tell me it's an insignificant number!

[Worthy4England]

I don't understand how this is difficult. There are lots of good Muslims and in percentage terms a small minority of idiots using that particular banner for terrorist activities which includes actions against Westerners and land grabs against other Muslims. I'd say that was all about power, self aggrandisement and fck all to do with what "the prophet" might advocate.

You like your figures, there are 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide just look at the figure for 1% of them being radical and extreme then tell me it's an insignificant number!

I'm not saying it's insignificant nor that the atrocities they commit are any less horrific. They're clearly motivated by a different view of their religion than the 1.5 billion other Muslims. Which would suggest that there are other factors at work than the religion. Wonder what they might be? Give you a clue - they're factors that don't involve the word religion very closely.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

[Hoboh]

Britain’s first elected Muslim Cabinet minister has said it is ‘lazy’ to claim Islam had nothing to do with last week’s terror attacks in France.
Culture Secretary Sajid Javid said there was ‘no getting away’ from the fact that the terrorists called themselves Muslims.
Mr Javid also called on British Muslims to do more to tackle extremism – claiming they had a ‘special burden’ because so many of the attacks were carried out by fanatics who claim inspiration from Islam.


Mr Javid said: ‘The lazy answer from people out there is to say that this had got nothing whatsoever to do with Islam and Muslims and that should be the end of that part of the debate.
‘That is lazy and that would be wrong. You can’t get away from the fact that these people are using Islam, they are taking a great religion, a peaceful religion of a billion people around the world, taking this religion and using it as their tool to carry out their horrible activities.’
Mr Javid said because of this there was a ‘special burden’ on Muslims to deal with Islamic extremism.

Better have another chat with Girl Friday Pru

[Hoboh]

I don't understand how this is difficult. There are lots of good Muslims and in percentage terms a small minority of idiots using that particular banner for terrorist activities which includes actions against Westerners and land grabs against other Muslims. I'd say that was all about power, self aggrandisement and fck all to do with what "the prophet" might advocate.

You like your figures, there are 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide just look at the figure for 1% of them being radical and extreme then tell me it's an insignificant number!

I'm not saying it's insignificant nor that the atrocities they commit are any less horrific. They're clearly motivated by a different view of their religion than the 1.5 billion other Muslims. Which would suggest that there are other factors at work than the religion. Wonder what they might be? Give you a clue - they're factors that don't involve the word religion very closely.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

I actually deliberately left out another 5-6% that strongly agree with them and another % who are prepared to ignore what they do

[Worthy4England]

I don't understand how this is difficult. There are lots of good Muslims and in percentage terms a small minority of idiots using that particular banner for terrorist activities which includes actions against Westerners and land grabs against other Muslims. I'd say that was all about power, self aggrandisement and fck all to do with what "the prophet" might advocate.

You like your figures, there are 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide just look at the figure for 1% of them being radical and extreme then tell me it's an insignificant number!

I'm not saying it's insignificant nor that the atrocities they commit are any less horrific. They're clearly motivated by a different view of their religion than the 1.5 billion other Muslims. Which would suggest that there are other factors at work than the religion. Wonder what they might be? Give you a clue - they're factors that don't involve the word religion very closely.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

I actually deliberately left out another 5-6% that strongly agree with them and another % who are prepared to ignore what they do

Ohh good - you might get up to 10% which is still a significant minority. A small percentage of people are murderers - it's not insignificant and their impact is immense on those affected. I'm not contemplating banning "people" because of this minority.

[Prufrock]

You're just making up numbers!!

[Worthy4England]

You're just making up numbers!!

I believe I've just used those supplied by Hoboh.

[Hoboh]

You're just making up numbers!!

Oh yeah so anyone who talks of 99% of Muslims being good Muslims is talking bullshit then?

Face it Pru you are an Ostrich when it comes to bad people of any type, a Multi Culti feel good boy!

I see you avoid what the UK leading Muslim politician has to say on the matter, he's talking to folk like YOU

[Hoboh]

I don't understand how this is difficult. There are lots of good Muslims and in percentage terms a small minority of idiots using that particular banner for terrorist activities which includes actions against Westerners and land grabs against other Muslims. I'd say that was all about power, self aggrandisement and fck all to do with what "the prophet" might advocate.

You like your figures, there are 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide just look at the figure for 1% of them being radical and extreme then tell me it's an insignificant number!

I'm not saying it's insignificant nor that the atrocities they commit are any less horrific. They're clearly motivated by a different view of their religion than the 1.5 billion other Muslims. Which would suggest that there are other factors at work than the religion. Wonder what they might be? Give you a clue - they're factors that don't involve the word religion very closely.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

I actually deliberately left out another 5-6% that strongly agree with them and another % who are prepared to ignore what they do

Ohh good - you might get up to 10% which is still a significant minority. A small percentage of people are murderers - it's not insignificant and their impact is immense on those affected. I'm not contemplating banning "people" because of this minority.

About 17000000, small? Let me have your small change Worthy