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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:35 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
They showed a news opinion show which showed a not completely unbalanced view
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/lis ... 01508.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It showed the solidarity emonstrations and did not justify the killings. It was however critical of Charlie Hebdo,

Which would be their right wouldn't it, if we're defending free speech?
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:50 am

Lord Kangana wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
They showed a news opinion show which showed a not completely unbalanced view
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/lis ... 01508.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It showed the solidarity demonstrations and did not justify the killings. It was however critical of Charlie Hebdo,

Which would be their right wouldn't it, if we're defending free speech?
Absolutely. I was defending Al Jazeera - they actually do a creditable job of news reporting IMHO.
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by a1 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:55 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
1,000,000 copies? Blimey. Isn't its normal circulation around 60,000?
paid for by a 'fine' of google news to help 'print media'. who'll somehow spin it into them being generous.

wonder if the printworks where they got 'martyred' is where it's printed ?

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:00 pm

a1 wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
1,000,000 copies? Blimey. Isn't its normal circulation around 60,000?
paid for by a 'fine' of google news to help 'print media'. who'll somehow spin it into them being generous.

wonder if the printworks where they got 'martyred' is where it's printed ?
I did wonder that at the time but haven't heard anything.

Apparently the print-run's now up to 3,000,000
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:03 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Bruce Rioja wrote:
1,000,000 copies? Blimey. Isn't its normal circulation around 60,000?
paid for by a 'fine' of google news to help 'print media'. who'll somehow spin it into them being generous.

wonder if the printworks where they got 'martyred' is where it's printed ?
I did wonder that at the time but haven't heard anything.

Apparently the print-run's now up to 3,000,000
Even printing an Arabic edition!

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:11 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ve-TV.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... BROWN.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by boltonboris » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:07 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Apologies for pointing out the inconsistencies here, but you're on the side of free speech, right?
I'm on the side of everybody who isn't a terrorist should be screaming from rooftops that all these terrorists are a bunch of c*nts
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:41 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
They showed a news opinion show which showed a not completely unbalanced view
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/lis ... 01508.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It showed the solidarity emonstrations and did not justify the killings. It was however critical of Charlie Hebdo,

Which would be their right wouldn't it, if we're defending free speech?
Who said it wasn't? Freely exercised speech isn't immune from the free speech of others. People are well entitled to say they should have covered it in a particular way, they just can't try to force them to.
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:25 pm

In the Philippines, police said about 1,500 people protested in the Muslim-majority city of Marawi, with local politicians and teenage students packing the main square and some raising their fists in the air as a Charlie Hebdo poster was burned.

“What happened in France, the Charlie Hebdo killing, is a moral lesson for the world to respect any kind of religion, especially the religion of Islam,” the organisers said in a statement released during the three-hour rally, the Agence France-Presse news agency reported. “Freedom of expression does not extend to insulting the noble and the greatest prophet of Allah.”

In Egypt, the Islamic research centre at Al-Azhar, the Muslim world’s foremost authority, warned that the cartoons risked stirring up hatred.

The drawings “do not serve the peaceful coexistence between peoples and hinder the integration of Muslims into European and western societies”, it said in a statement.
Nothing to do with their total intolerance then is it?
The Muslim Council advised Muslims to react with “dignified nobility”. Its advice sheet says: “Our reaction must be a reflection of the teachings of the gentle and merciful character of the prophet (peace be upon him). Enduring patience, tolerance, gentleness and mercy as was the character of our beloved prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is the best and immediate way to respond.”

It added that depictions of the prophet “cannot tarnish his image” and urged Muslims to speak out. It said: “Engage with others about your feelings. Speak of your love for the prophet (peace be upon him) and do not be shy to let your non-Muslim friends know your justified displeasure at the mockery that is made of our faith. People need to know how much love we have for our prophet.”
This the lot bish likes posting about? Bit one eyed in their views are they not?

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:48 pm

I don't think I have ever posted anything related to the Muslim Council, have I? what are you on about? :conf:

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:59 pm

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“What happened in France, the Charlie Hebdo killing, is a moral lesson for the world to respect any kind of religion, especially the religion of Islam,” the organisers said in a statement released during the three-hour rally, the Agence France-Presse news agency reported. “Freedom of expression does not extend to insulting the noble and the greatest prophet of Allah.”
All sounds a bit relevant to:
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:49 pm

thebish wrote:I don't think I have ever posted anything related to the Muslim Council, have I? what are you on about? :conf:
These not the same bunch then?

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Or are the shed loads of levels of them about?

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:54 pm

in a word - no.

(one clue is that they have entirely different names.)

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:56 pm

thebish wrote:in a word - no.
So there is a secret Islamic government in waiting then, seeing there are supposedly so few of them they certainly are hardly underrepresented are they?

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:57 pm

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:in a word - no.
So there is a secret Islamic government in waiting then, seeing there are supposedly so few of them they certainly are hardly underrepresented are they?
what?? :conf:

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:04 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:in a word - no.
So there is a secret Islamic government in waiting then, seeing there are supposedly so few of them they certainly are hardly underrepresented are they?
what?? :conf:
bloody joke man!!

Anyway back to business, you are just as select then as you often accuse me of being when you find your little Raison d'être to back you up!

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:38 pm

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:in a word - no.
So there is a secret Islamic government in waiting then, seeing there are supposedly so few of them they certainly are hardly underrepresented are they?
what?? :conf:
bloody joke man!!

Anyway back to business, you are just as select then as you often accuse me of being when you find your little Raison d'être to back you up!
no idea what you're on about!

you said the muslim council were somehow the lot I often quoted - you were wrong, I have never quoted them
you asked if the muslim council are the same lot as the ISB - they are not (as reflected in their totally different names!)

what am I being "select" about? :conf:

and in what sense is "So there is a secret Islamic government in waiting then, seeing there are supposedly so few of them they certainly are hardly underrepresented are they?" a joke? is it missing a punchline? :conf:

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:42 pm

I, for one, don't want a punch line, or a shoot line, or a stab line, or ...
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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:43 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I for one don't want a punch line, or a shoot line, or a stab line, or ...
a sweet caroline?

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Re: Shooting in Paris at satirical mag

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:46 pm

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I for one don't want a punch line, or a shoot line, or a stab line, or ...
a sweet caroline?
:lol:

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