The Politics Thread

[Hoboh]

Jesus wept Hoboh, I'm all for criticising Corbs, but that is a non-story. Wouldn't surprise me if he'd never actually seen it. All MPs send letters like that on behalf of their constituents every day.

The real scandal is that the f*cker had never replied to my two letters to him I sent, the first of which was well before the election!

So you are saying it's okay for an MP to send letters out about people they know nothing about then? Or even worse send out letters they never see, begs the question did Corbyn ever even meet the tw*t concerned?
Whichever way the cookie crumbles it's hardly clever behaviour from some aspiring PM, even a Trotsky pig.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ based on a statement made by a Muslim to yesterday's attacker. Quite admirable no?

...erm.
a) he wasn't ( a Muslim)
b) he stood and filmed the attack rather than helping (despite being 'a security guard').

So the answer was no, not admirable.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And we can all celebrate. The last leader of a country to quit the Commonwealth has just announced that he is declaring them an Islamic State.
This is the bloke that told the UN in 2013 that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

So, "you're not a Muslim, bruv"... can I say that?

[Bruce Rioja]

And we can all celebrate. The last leader of a country to quit the Commonwealth has just announced that he is declaring them an Islamic State.
This is the bloke that told the UN in 2013 that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

So, "you're not a Muslim, bruv"... can I say that?

Who's that then? You can't just give it a snippet.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And we can all celebrate. The last leader of a country to quit the Commonwealth has just announced that he is declaring them an Islamic State.
This is the bloke that told the UN in 2013 that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

So, "you're not a Muslim, bruv"... can I say that?

Who's that then? You can't just give it a snippet.

Certainly Bruce: Yahya Abdul-Aziz Jammeh, President of Gambia, a nation of 1.8 million people of which 90% are Muslim. As the Gambia was now an Islamic State he pronounced that "Gambia's destiny is in the hands of Almighty Allah" and also said to the world community "The way our women will dress is none of your business". In 2013 he addressed the UN and stated "homosexuals were one of the biggest threats to human existence".

[Bruce Rioja]

And we can all celebrate. The last leader of a country to quit the Commonwealth has just announced that he is declaring them an Islamic State.
This is the bloke that told the UN in 2013 that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

So, "you're not a Muslim, bruv"... can I say that?

Who's that then? You can't just give it a snippet.

Certainly Bruce: Yahya Abdul-Aziz Jammeh, President of Gambia, a nation of 1.8 million people of which 90% are Muslim. As the Gambia was now an Islamic State he pronounced that "Gambia's destiny is in the hands of Almighty Allah" and also said to the world community "The way our women will dress is none of your business". In 2013 he addressed the UN and stated "homosexuals were one of the biggest threats to human existence".

Seriously - thanks for that, Spotto. I'd no idea. Not a progressive step for Gambia then?!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And we can all celebrate. The last leader of a country to quit the Commonwealth has just announced that he is declaring them an Islamic State.
This is the bloke that told the UN in 2013 that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

So, "you're not a Muslim, bruv"... can I say that?

Who's that then? You can't just give it a snippet.

Certainly Bruce: Yahya Abdul-Aziz Jammeh, President of Gambia, a nation of 1.8 million people of which 90% are Muslim. As the Gambia was now an Islamic State he pronounced that "Gambia's destiny is in the hands of Almighty Allah" and also said to the world community "The way our women will dress is none of your business". In 2013 he addressed the UN and stated "homosexuals were one of the biggest threats to human existence".

Seriously - thanks for that, Spotto. I'd no idea. Not a progressive step for Gambia then?!

I'd say not, categorically. Others differ, sadly.

[malcd1]

And we can all celebrate. The last leader of a country to quit the Commonwealth has just announced that he is declaring them an Islamic State.
This is the bloke that told the UN in 2013 that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

So, "you're not a Muslim, bruv"... can I say that?

Who's that then? You can't just give it a snippet.

Certainly Bruce: Yahya Abdul-Aziz Jammeh, President of Gambia, a nation of 1.8 million people of which 90% are Muslim. As the Gambia was now an Islamic State he pronounced that "Gambia's destiny is in the hands of Almighty Allah" and also said to the world community "The way our women will dress is none of your business". In 2013 he addressed the UN and stated "homosexuals were one of the biggest threats to human existence".

Seriously - thanks for that, Spotto. I'd no idea. Not a progressive step for Gambia then?!

I'd say not, categorically. Others differ, sadly.

I will expect the other 10% of non-muslims to be wiped out pretty soon.

[Harry Genshaw]

^ based on a statement made by a Muslim to yesterday's attacker. Quite admirable no?

...erm.
a) he wasn't ( a Muslim)
b) he stood and filmed the attack rather than helping (despite being 'a security guard').

So the answer was no, not admirable.

Has that been confirmed? Apologies if so but I saw it as..

Man films incident on his phone. Another man, off camera whose religion, if any, is unknown shouts "You ain't no muslim bruv". Personally, I'd have been sprinting several miles away by then rather than hanging around to question the man's confused interpretation of Islam. So to me, pretty admirable

[Enoch]

that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

"homosexuals were one of the biggest threats to human existence".

Seems he gets a fair hearing!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

that homosexuels were "one of the biggest threats to humanity".

"homosexuals were one of the biggest threats to human existence".

Seems he gets a fair hearing!

You can give him as much fair hearing as you want guv:

On 15 May 2008, Jammeh announced that his government would introduce legislation that would set laws against homosexuals that would be "stricter than those in Iran", and that he would "cut off the head" of any gay or lesbian person discovered in the country.[1] News reports indicated his government intended to execute all homosexuals in the country.[1] In the speech given in Tallinding, Jammeh gave a "final ultimatum" to any gays or lesbians in the Gambia to leave the country.[1]

In a speech to the United Nations on 27 September 2013, Jammeh said that "[h]omosexuality in all its forms and manifestations which, though very evil, antihuman as well as anti-Allah, is being promoted as a human right by some powers," and that those who do so "want to put an end to human existence."[2]

On 18 February 2014, Jammeh called homosexuals "vermins" by saying that "We will fight these vermins called homosexuals or gays the same way we are fighting malaria-causing mosquitoes, if not more aggressively,". He also went on to disparage the LGBT by saying that "As far as I am concerned, LGBT can only stand for Leprosy, Gonorrhoea, Bacteria and Tuberculosis, all of which are detrimental to human existence"[3/4]
[1 President Jammeh Gives Ultimatum for Homosexuals to Leave, Gambia News, 19 May 2008.
2 Gambian president says gays a threat to human existence-20130928, Reuters, 28 Sept 2013.
3 "Gambia's Jammeh calls gays 'vermin', says to fight like mosquitoes". Retrieved 2014-02-20.
4 "Tainting love". The Economist. 11 October 2014. Retrieved 17 October 2014]

[Bruce Rioja]

Man films incident on his phone.

Which is something else that I'll never understand. When a fecking madman is wielding a knife you won't see me for dust, Bruv.

[thebish]

It's not just us that's fecked...

Some NHS hospitals are so cash-strapped that they are having to take out emergency loans to pay doctors, nurses and other staff salaries every month, HuffPost UK can reveal.

A string of NHS trusts are taking out multi-million pound loans – and having to pay interest on them to the Government – simply to ensure wages are met at the end of each month.

Consultants at the world-renowned Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge have been told that they would not have been paid this month but for a loan from the Department of Health, while staff at Medway NHS Trust were also dependent on a similar finance package.

And the chief executive of one NHS foundation trust in London has even resorted to emailing all staff to reassure them that they will be paid in time for Christmas.

The NHS won extra funding from the Chancellor George Osborne in the Spending Review, but experts say that Government pressures to recruit more staff to make wards safer, together with cuts in payments for treatments, mean many hospitals are facing their most severe cash squeeze in history.

[bobo the clown]

People on here are largely of "mature" age. Dies anyone recall a time when the NHS wasn't in a financial crisis ? Coz I'll bet my right one that if that time ever existed they weren't doing 25% of what they do now.

[TANGODANCER]

People on here are largely of "mature" age. Dies anyone recall a time when the NHS wasn't in a financial crisis ? Coz I'll bet my right one that if that time ever existed they weren't doing 25% of what they do now.

No new thing. You only have to look back as far as Manchester and Bolton Royal Infirmaries going to the wall due to age and the cost of maintenance coming from it. You could go with almost any complaint to the Infirmary at one time and get rapid attention without a three hour wait at A & E.

[bobo the clown]

People on here are largely of "mature" age. Dies anyone recall a time when the NHS wasn't in a financial crisis ? Coz I'll bet my right one that if that time ever existed they weren't doing 25% of what they do now.

No new thing. You only have to look back as far as Manchester and Bolton Royal Infirmaries going to the wall due to age and the cost of maintenance coming from it. You could go with almost any complaint to the Infirmary at one time and get rapid attention without a three hour wait at A & E.

3 hour ... bravo. It was almost 9 hours for me. Nothing to do with budgets ... a clear matter of a very poor system. That was plain to see even with my then very, very sore eye.

[Worthy4England]

People on here are largely of "mature" age. Dies anyone recall a time when the NHS wasn't in a financial crisis ? Coz I'll bet my right one that if that time ever existed they weren't doing 25% of what they do now.

No new thing. You only have to look back as far as Manchester and Bolton Royal Infirmaries going to the wall due to age and the cost of maintenance coming from it. You could go with almost any complaint to the Infirmary at one time and get rapid attention without a three hour wait at A & E.

3 hour ... bravo. It was almost 9 hours for me. Nothing to do with budgets ... a clear matter of a very poor system. That was plain to see even with my then very, very sore eye.

Excellent. Just a poor system. That should be pi$$ easy for any Government worth their salt to sort out then.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

That or the fact that ocassionally a very sore eye, even one that's throbbing may well get punted down the list as heart attacks, car crash victims, knife wounded, and just battered wife's who were batterd because they didn't accomodate the whingy nature of their husbands who've got a bit of an eye ache, are treated first. 9 hours, you've still got an eye haven't you?

[Bruce Rioja]

Create a free resource and you'll create unlimited demand.

I'm really with Bobo in that the NHS is funding stuff that it shouldn't be anywhere near.

Waiting times at A&E, by the way, i found that bleeding on the floor when I'd chopped the top quarter of my right thumb off (opening a can of corned bastard beef, if you're interested) got me straight through.

[thebish]

That or the fact that ocassionally a very sore eye, even one that's throbbing may well get punted down the list as heart attacks, car crash victims, knife wounded, and just battered wife's who were batterd because they didn't accomodate the whingy nature of their husbands who've got a bit of an eye ache, are treated first. 9 hours, you've still got an eye haven't you?

that's you told, Bobo!