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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:49 am

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:so - the reason you are very close to totally despising Corbyn is that he wants to talk about the actual subject of a protest he is attending and that he doesn't make an immediate knee-jerk comment about something that is not yet entirely clear?? :conf:

booooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

if that's the tipping point for you despising someone - then I don't believe that you despise very few people!!!
You should have gone to spec-savers mate, the video looks clear enough to me.
yet - you wrote..

"he also sidestepped questions about the new Islamic State propaganda video that seems to feature a British jihadi."

that doesn't sound like you're 100% clear!

(and - why is it a matter of national security that Corbyn must comment on it this morning? I don't believe the Prime Minister has even commented on it yet...)

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:02 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:so - the reason you are very close to totally despising Corbyn is that he wants to talk about the actual subject of a protest he is attending and that he doesn't make an immediate knee-jerk comment about something that is not yet entirely clear?? :conf:

booooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

if that's the tipping point for you despising someone - then I don't believe that you despise very few people!!!
You should have gone to spec-savers mate, the video looks clear enough to me.
yet - you wrote..

"he also sidestepped questions about the new Islamic State propaganda video that seems to feature a British jihadi."

that doesn't sound like you're 100% clear!

(and - why is it a matter of national security that Corbyn must comment on it this morning? I don't believe the Prime Minister has even commented on it yet...)
Not me that's lifted from the press.
(Camoron ain't been labelled soft on terror has he? Well at least not by the main stream media if you take my views out of it).

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:35 pm

well - if the prime minister hasn't seen fit to comment on it yet - then I don't see why it is a matter of national security for corbyn to comment on it.

also - you REALLY despise a party leader for not making announcements to the press about a reshuffle in advance of making it and telling those concerned? really??

never mind - given Corbyn is such a disaster and the libdems are dead - the way is clear for your man Farridge to ride into power with UKIP on the wings of his successful campaign to have us leave the EU at the next general election! huzzah!!

(can you quote Farage's comments about this particular video for me? - I can't find them.)

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:48 pm

thebish wrote:well - if the prime minister hasn't seen fit to comment on it yet - then I don't see why it is a matter of national security for corbyn to comment on it.

also - you REALLY despise a party leader for not making announcements to the press about a reshuffle in advance of making it and telling those concerned? really??

never mind - given Corbyn is such a disaster and the libdems are dead - the way is clear for your man Farridge to ride into power with UKIP on the wings of his successful campaign to have us leave the EU at the next general election! huzzah!!

(can you quote Farage's comments about this particular video for me? - I can't find them.)
Camoron has
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j ... says-no-10" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I despise Corbyn for the way he is changing the labour party into the Trades Unions of old, our view is the only view, next will be the foot scrotes aka SNP types disrupting and intimidating folk of more moderate views
My man Farage? My man in respect of being anti EU and pointing out uncomfortable truths about immigration, incidentally on the day London become a foreign establishment.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:03 pm

on what basis do you say "our view is the only view" relates specifically to Corbyn?

not sure I understand this attack at all...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:06 pm

thebish wrote:on what basis do you say "our view is the only view" relates specifically to Corbyn?

not sure I understand this attack at all...
Then you have had little experience of the brothers comrade.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:08 pm

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:on what basis do you say "our view is the only view" relates specifically to Corbyn?

not sure I understand this attack at all...
Then you have had little experience of the brothers comrade.
or you could just tell me what justifies the charge "our view is the only view" relating to Corbyn specifically... as opposed to any other politician who says what s/he thinks...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:10 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:on what basis do you say "our view is the only view" relates specifically to Corbyn?

not sure I understand this attack at all...
Then you have had little experience of the brothers comrade.
or you could just tell me what justifies the charge "our view is the only view" relating to Corbyn specifically... as opposed to any other politician who says what s/he thinks...
I'll wait for his cabinet ramblings reshuffle to explain :grin:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:12 pm

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/01/m ... ed-bridge/
Ministers arrived to meet flooded locals 20 minutes late ‘on wrong side of collapsed bridge’
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:16 pm

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:on what basis do you say "our view is the only view" relates specifically to Corbyn?

not sure I understand this attack at all...
Then you have had little experience of the brothers comrade.
or you could just tell me what justifies the charge "our view is the only view" relating to Corbyn specifically... as opposed to any other politician who says what s/he thinks...
I'll wait for his cabinet ramblings reshuffle to explain :grin:
ha! so...

Corbyn widely vilified and pilloried for choosing a shadow cabinet with differing views...
Corbyn then widely vilified and pilloried for making changes to a shadow cabinet so as to speak with a clearer voice

meanwhile - remind me which party leaders make a habit of constructing cabinets out of voices that disagree with their own views? :conf:

presumably you despise them all!

run Farridge's team past me again... put a star next to all those who wanted to stay in the EU...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:36 pm

LeverEnd wrote:http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/01/m ... ed-bridge/
Ministers arrived to meet flooded locals 20 minutes late ‘on wrong side of collapsed bridge’
Yeh. McLaughlin's my local MP. A nice person of the highest order. Twice I've emailed him raising a question, and on both occasions his paid for by the electorate 'secretary' ( his wife) has replied that he'd reply directly to me (and even detailed a deadline for this). But typical of most of the bunch of cxnts that represent us, he didn't reply at all.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:03 pm

That's more than I've got, on any of three attempts from my MP, man of the people, Corbyn.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:13 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/01/m ... ed-bridge/
Ministers arrived to meet flooded locals 20 minutes late ‘on wrong side of collapsed bridge’
Yeh. McLaughlin's my local MP. A tw*t of the highest order. Twice I've emailed him raising a question, and on both occasions his paid for by the electorate 'secretary' ( his wife) has replied that he'd reply directly to me (and even detailed a deadline for this). But typical of most of the bunch of cxnts that represent us, he didn't reply at all.
Bstaaard.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:20 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/01/m ... ed-bridge/
Ministers arrived to meet flooded locals 20 minutes late ‘on wrong side of collapsed bridge’
Yeh. McLaughlin's my local MP. A tw*t of the highest order. Twice I've emailed him raising a question, and on both occasions his paid for by the electorate 'secretary' ( his wife) has replied that he'd reply directly to me (and even detailed a deadline for this). But typical of most of the bunch of cxnts that represent us, he didn't reply at all.
Bstaaard.
Was it about e-cigs?
It wasn't, no, although the next one probably will be :evil:
(armed robbery at local post office and effect thereupon on our ongoing attempt to keep a social jewel in our midst / fxcking Scots having a say about breaking up my country without me having a fxcking veto to reign the barbarian hordes north of Hadrian's Wall in :D :D )
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:00 pm

Prufrock wrote:That's more than I've got, on any of three attempts from my MP, man of the people, Corbyn.
our collective hearts bleed over the sheer injustice of it all... :cry:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:57 pm

back a step, though Hobes...

the thing Corbyn was actually at today - about the UK rail industry.. (whereas you wanted him to be telling the press about possible labour party reshuffle changes for some reason)

do you actually disagree with the protest he was making about a fair whack of the UK rail network being owned/operated/profited-from by state-owned companies abroad (France, Germany and Holland)?

cos - errrr.. - it sounds like the kind of protest you would normally agree with - unless, that is, Corbyn's name is attached to it...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:49 pm

thebish wrote:back a step, though Hobes...

the thing Corbyn was actually at today - about the UK rail industry.. (whereas you wanted him to be telling the press about possible labour party reshuffle changes for some reason)

do you actually disagree with the protest he was making about a fair whack of the UK rail network being owned/operated/profited-from by state-owned companies abroad (France, Germany and Holland)?

cos - errrr.. - it sounds like the kind of protest you would normally agree with - unless, that is, Corbyn's name is attached to it...
No I don't, railways and power/water like defence are, in my opinion, essential, fundamental, strategic services to the well being of a nation and should be under accountable government control.
Unfortunately, I fear under Comrade Corbyn they would effectively be in the pockets of the union barons.
Anyways this bloke can keep his job in any cabinet reshuffle I'd ever do, just for his name :mrgreen:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:02 am

well - there's the bones of a coherent policy... the railways should be nationalised, but only when we have a tory govt. when there's a labour govt, they should be reprivatised to keep them out of the hands of the unions... good luck with that one! :wink:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:39 am

If Deutsche Bahn ran our trains I'd use them more often.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:42 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:If Deutsche Bahn ran our trains I'd use them more often.

unfortunately that's not the deal - just that they reap some of the profits from our railway in order to subsidise theirs!

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