The Politics Thread

[Bruce Rioja]

Oh, another one look!

Shadow attorney general Catherine McKinnell resigns citing concerns over Labour's direction under Jeremy Corbyn

she also said it was because of conflict in the party, I think... resigning from the front bench because of conflict in the party seems a tiny bit ironic to me!

Certainly a strange one. I was listening to a piece about her resignation letter, it started with a piece about her having a young family and finding the commute from the north east (Hmmm, Parliament's stood where it currently is since the middle ages) and then right at the end she got to the nub of it!

[thebish]

Oh, another one look!

Shadow attorney general Catherine McKinnell resigns citing concerns over Labour's direction under Jeremy Corbyn

she also said it was because of conflict in the party, I think... resigning from the front bench because of conflict in the party seems a tiny bit ironic to me!

Certainly a strange one. I was listening to a piece about her resignation letter, it started with a piece about her having a young family and finding the commute from the north east (Hmmm, Parliament's stood where it currently is since the middle ages) and then right at the end she got to the nub of it!

it's a calculated move to destabilise Corbyn... why else wait until a week after the reshuffle? but to include as one of the hotch-potch of vague reasons - the conflict in the party - when this is calculated to prolong the season of conflict - is just a bit ironic...

time to drag Keir Starmer into the tent - he knows what he's talking about on the attorney general brief!

[Bruce Rioja]

it's a calculated move to destabilise Corbyn... why else wait until a week after the reshuffle? but to include as one of the hotch-potch of vague reasons - the conflict in the party - when this is calculated to prolong the season of conflict - is just a bit ironic...

See, this is what I don't get, and you're closer to it than I am so any light you can shed will be truly appreciated. Corbyn won the leadership election by a mile so how come now all the dissenters? McKinell knows how far Parliament is from her constituency so why even present herself as a politician if this is a problem to her, and if it is a bid to destabilise Corbyn then why not simply accept the fact that a democratic process has taken place, the very same process that voted her into her position in the first place?

[Worthy4England]

it's a calculated move to destabilise Corbyn... why else wait until a week after the reshuffle? but to include as one of the hotch-potch of vague reasons - the conflict in the party - when this is calculated to prolong the season of conflict - is just a bit ironic...

See, this is what I don't get, and you're closer to it than I am so any light you can shed will be truly appreciated. Corbyn won the leadership election by a mile so how come now all the dissenters? McKinell knows how far Parliament is from her constituency so why even present herself as a politician if this is a problem to her, and if it is a bid to destabilise Corbyn then why not simply accept the fact that a democratic process has taken place, the very same process that voted her into her position in the first place?

Regardless of the leadership election being a democratic process, it's clearly taking the Labour party in a different direction that the one it's travelled for some years now. Depending on how he pitches his Cabinet, it either moves towards his thinking or strikes some balances and compromises. If she thinks that's changed so it's out of kilter with where she'd pitch it, then it's a vote of conscience surely? Lawson, Lamont and various others left Thatcher's cabinet for similar reasons and she had a mandate from the electorate at the time - they felt where she was steering the ship wasn't where they wanted to go...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

It's quite simple really.
Some people think Corbyn is new, vibrant, and down with the kids; a breath of fresh air
Some of us remember the old internationalist fellow traveller brigade; his breath stinks of decay, treason and killer politics.

[Harry Genshaw]

Corbyn was largely elected by the membership.

I could be wrong here but McKinnel may have been selected for her seat on a women only shortlist, and then was elected in the usual way.

The membership and the party machine are at odds with each other. I think there's a real possibility the party could split over this and a new party formed.

[thebish]

it's a calculated move to destabilise Corbyn... why else wait until a week after the reshuffle? but to include as one of the hotch-potch of vague reasons - the conflict in the party - when this is calculated to prolong the season of conflict - is just a bit ironic...

See, this is what I don't get, and you're closer to it than I am so any light you can shed will be truly appreciated. Corbyn won the leadership election by a mile so how come now all the dissenters? McKinell knows how far Parliament is from her constituency so why even present herself as a politician if this is a problem to her, and if it is a bid to destabilise Corbyn then why not simply accept the fact that a democratic process has taken place, the very same process that voted her into her position in the first place?

a lot, not all, of the problem is that whilst Corbyn can slap his massive mandate on the table (ooh errrr...) and it is the massivest mandate any party leader of a mainstream party in the UK has ever had... it wasn't the actual MPs who voted for him... yet they are the ones he has to make his shadow cabinet out of... and many of them are bitter as feck and want to depose him...

[Beefheart]

It's quite simple really.
Some people think Corbyn is new, vibrant, and down with the kids; a breath of fresh air
Some of us remember the old internationalist fellow traveller brigade; his breath stinks of decay, treason and killer politics.

Yeah, I think he's shit. But if he is, then let him fail in his own good time. If he gets booted out the hard left nutters in the party will feel aggrieved that their hero got ousted and continue to upset things. If they leave him be they have to accept that his brand of politics would never get them elected and they'd have to shut up for another couple of elections.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

It's quite simple really.
Some people think Corbyn is new, vibrant, and down with the kids; a breath of fresh air
Some of us remember the old internationalist fellow traveller brigade; his breath stinks of decay, treason and killer politics.

Yeah, I think he's shit. But if he is, then let him fail in his own good time. If he gets booted out the hard left nutters in the party will feel aggrieved that their hero got ousted and continue to upset things. If they leave him be they have to accept that his brand of politics would never get them elected and they'd have to shut up for another couple of elections.

I agree. Entirely.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

This Dilley geezer, on £100,000 for between 1 and 3 days work a week (when he's not sunbathing in the Caribbean, pretending to be renewing close family ties), is he one of these top people charities are trying to attract?

Ha, I see the twunt has gone, resigned. No doubt carrying off a pot of cash and a gold plated pension, only to turn up as CEO of Oxfam or the NSPCC or British Gas, because of course we cannot operate without such Top people - worth their weight in gold.

[bobo the clown]

Yeah, I think he's shit. But if he is, then let him fail in his own good time. If he gets booted out the hard left nutters in the party will feel aggrieved that their hero got ousted and continue to upset things. If they leave him be they have to accept that his brand of politics would never get them elected and they'd have to shut up for another couple of elections.

This being where your otherwise cunning plan falls down. They will NEVER accept they're wrong.

Have you ever met any of these fckrs ?

[thebish]

Yeah, I think he's shit. But if he is, then let him fail in his own good time. If he gets booted out the hard left nutters in the party will feel aggrieved that their hero got ousted and continue to upset things. If they leave him be they have to accept that his brand of politics would never get them elected and they'd have to shut up for another couple of elections.

This being where your otherwise cunning plan falls down. They will NEVER accept they're wrong.

unlike most other politicians!!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, commissioner of the Met, just got himself (without paying for it himself, obviously) a £65,000 car, complete with £1,000 entertainment centre that he .needed
Boy, I bet Oxfam, NSPCC, RSPCA, Childline, and the rest are queueing up for this top tosser (once he retires on medical grounds, with a gold plated pension) as CEO.

[Worthy4England]

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, commissioner of the Met, just got himself (without paying for it himself, obviously) a £65,000 car, complete with £1,000 entertainment centre that he .needed
Boy, I bet Oxfam, NSPCC, RSPCA, Childline, and the rest are queueing up for this top tosser (once he retires on medical grounds, with a gold plated pension) as CEO.

Cheesus! It's basic human rights. When you have Bill Sykes in the back of the motor, you need decent entertainment playing, he's not guilty until he's been to Court...

[TANGODANCER]

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, commissioner of the Met, just got himself (without paying for it himself, obviously) a £65,000 car, complete with £1,000 entertainment centre that he .needed
Boy, I bet Oxfam, NSPCC, RSPCA, Childline, and the rest are queueing up for this top tosser (once he retires on medical grounds, with a gold plated pension) as CEO.

Cheesus! It's basic human rights. When you have Bill Sykes in the back of the motor, you need decent entertainment playing, he's not guilty until he's been to Court...

Ha, as if any criminal will ever get a ride in a vehicle of a police chief/commisioner etc? .....Oh, er wait a minute, make that your street level crims. Many a high level one not only gets lifts, they often drive them.

[Hoboh]

Staggering inflation!!!

Soldiers take the King/Queens shilling.

Corbyn has the Three quid Trot brigade.

An example of tax levels to come no doubt!

[Worthy4England]

Staggering inflation!!!

Soldiers take the King/Queens shilling.

Corbyn has the Three quid Trot brigade.

An example of tax levels to come no doubt!

Anyone?

[thebish]

Staggering inflation!!!

Soldiers take the King/Queens shilling.

Corbyn has the Three quid Trot brigade.

An example of tax levels to come no doubt!

Anyone?

I can't help but think there is a job here for Bletchley Park...

[Little Green Man]

Staggering inflation!!!

Soldiers take the King/Queens shilling.

Corbyn has the Three quid Trot brigade.

An example of tax levels to come no doubt!

Anyone?

Porphyria or Kestrel Super

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Staggering inflation!!!

Soldiers take the King/Queens shilling.

Corbyn has the Three quid Trot brigade.

An example of tax levels to come no doubt!

Anyone?

Not a fxckin clue. Not even close to having a guess. I thought earlier it might be cryptic clues to the Times2 crossword, but I've finished that now, and they aren't.