Benitez .... prick

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:37 pm

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I see the sale of the Canadiens has finally been approved. Expect any changes now that Gillette is a little more solvent?

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:39 pm

seanworth wrote:Blurred

I see the sale of the Canadiens has finally been approved. Expect any changes now that Gillette is a little more solvent?

Short answer: No

Slightly longer answer: You must be kidding?

I fully expect nothing to change - Gillett won't be pumping any cash into LFC, given that he and Hicks had to stump up some money to reduce the debt before RBS would agree to refinance them in the summer. If anything, this money'll just be going on the next chunk of interest that we'll have to clear off the debt before we refinance again, and again, and again...

Village_Idiot2 · Post by **Village_Idiot2** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:10 pm

blurred wrote:
Village_Idiot2 wrote: I'll give you some shocking mid-range signings of my own: Nani, Anderson, Tosic... Best part of £30m wasted there for next to feck all end result. And Hargreaves' injury record has proven to be up to scratch, hasn't it? 170 appearances in 10 years he's made, and people are criticising the signing of Aquilani...

Oh, I consider SAF's signing record to be truly terrible. Why do you think they need to have Giggs getting them out of trouble in this day and age? His numbers look nice because of the sale of Ronaldo, but otherwise he's wasted quite a lot of dosh these last years for little return. I'm surprised they are doing well in the league myself, but for some reason ManU is one of those teams that seem to be able to beat others just with the badge, so to speak.

Regarding Aquilani, I agree that you sign a player for 5 years and not 5 months, but there was no contingency plan in the squad. If Cesc gets broken, Arsenal has a number of players that can play that role, not as well, but they can. Same with Chelsea, they have Deco or Ballack at a push to fill up Lampard's boots on a pinch. Liverpool didn't have any other playmaker in the books just to cover that hole, and if you had any up and coming youngster (i'm not familiar with your youth setup), you didn't play him. You could have tried Gerrard there, I assume, but in all the games I have seen this season he has never slotted back to midfield. That's lack of planning/stubborness.

Relentless09 · Post by **Relentless09** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:49 pm

seems his days are numbered

Zulus Thousand of em · Post by **Zulus Thousand of em** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:05 am

"We will not be seeded in the Europa League. We must cope with that and handle whatever comes our way now."

Prick.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:22 am

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:"We will not be seeded in the Europa League. We must cope with that and handle whatever comes our way now."

Prick.

Harsh, Zulu, harsh.

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:05 am

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:"We will not be seeded in the Europa League. We must cope with that and handle whatever comes our way now."

Prick.

Got some tasty ties that we could get, though. I can get onboard with this Europa League malarky:

Juventus, Wolfsburg, Marseille, Unirea Urziceni, Sporting Lisbon, Galatasaray, Salzburg, Fenerbahce, Benfica, Shakhtar Donetsk, PSV are all definitely to be drawn from the other pot, along with a chance of one of

Ajax/Anderlecht
Valencia/Lille/Genoa
Hamburg/Hapoel Tel Aviv
Roma/Fulham/Basel
Werder Bremen/Athletic Bilbao

Some corking trips in there. Knowing our luck we'll get fecking PSV or Marseille again.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:07 am

Or a belting trip to Fulham.

Can that happen?

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:17 am

superjohnmcginlay wrote:Or a belting trip to Fulham.

Can that happen?

If Fulham beat Basel away and Roma lose away at CSKA Sofia (who have one point from their 5 games) then we'll have a 1 in 16 chance of drawing them.

So no.

Zulus Thousand of em · Post by **Zulus Thousand of em** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:19 am

blurred wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:Or a belting trip to Fulham.

Can that happen?
If Fulham beat Basel away and Roma lose away at CSKA Sofia (who have one point from their 5 games) then we'll have a 1 in 16 chance of drawing them.

So no.

Not a gambling man myself but it's a 1 in 15 chance isn't it?

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:34 am

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Not a gambling man myself but it's a 1 in 15 chance isn't it?

Nope, it'd be a 1 in 16 chance, and that's only if they beat Basel away (tricky) and Roma get beat away at the shittest team in the group. So I'd offer some pretty huge odds on us drawing Fulham. Sofia are probably a 3/1 shot to beat Roma, which would have to be doubled with Fulham beating Basel, and that's probably a 2/1 shot at the very least, before you added the 16/1 chance in the draw.

So it's roughly a 96/1 chance of us playing them.

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:35 am

blurred wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Not a gambling man myself but it's a 1 in 15 chance isn't it?
Nope, it'd be a 1 in 16 chance, and that's only if they beat Basel away (tricky) and Roma get beat away at the shittest team in the group. So I'd offer some pretty huge odds on us drawing Fulham. Sofia are probably a 3/1 shot to beat Roma, which would have to be doubled with Fulham beating Basel, and that's probably a 2/1 shot at the very least, before you added the 16/1 chance in the draw.

So it's roughly a 96/1 chance of us playing them.

So there's still a chance.

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:41 am

seanworth wrote:So there's still a chance.

Yes, hence why I put them in the list of possibles in my original post, next to Roma and Basel, because they're technically not without a chance of finishing top.

Edit: A quick check of the UEFA Rules shows that there's the so-called 'country protection' in this round, which means we definitely can't get them until the last 16. Hurrah.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:47 pm

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:
blurred wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:Or a belting trip to Fulham.

Can that happen?
If Fulham beat Basel away and Roma lose away at CSKA Sofia (who have one point from their 5 games) then we'll have a 1 in 16 chance of drawing them.

So no.
Not a gambling man myself but it's a 1 in 15 chance isn't it?

1 in 16 = 15 to 1 odds.

Il Pirate · Post by **Il Pirate** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:15 pm

I'll lay 4/6 the fat waiter is a prick

Hoboh · Post by **Hoboh** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:13 pm

Int it funny UEFA suddenly got to be a decent way into Europe and not just the second division!!!!
No doubt now it's a toughie to win!!!!!

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:44 pm

Hobinho wrote:Int it funny UEFA suddenly got to be a decent way into Europe and not just the second division!!!!
No doubt now it's a toughie to win!!!!!

Erm, not quite sure what you're talking about, but keep taking the pills.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:32 pm

Just listened to Radio Merseyside's post-match phone in. Post the Liverpool 1-2 Arsenal game, that is.

... & we think Megson's unpopular ??

Now I know that this radio station only covers a proportion of the city, as there are other teams there (Marine, Halewood, Southport at a push) & also only a small proportion of Liverpool fans as most of them, a-la Stetford Redsox, live out of the city (& why wouldn't you live out of that city ?) but nonetheless the anti-Benitez bile was amazing.

OK, I wish we were "failing" at his standard, but their expectations and their financial requirements demand a high level of achievement & it's clear that many of them don't reckon that he can help them get there. God, I hope they're right.

The general view seems to be that he's clueless & that he's ripped the heart out of the club & that he's wasted piles of cash. They seem to think that he'll stay till season end, but will go in the summer. There's pessimism that they'll get anywhere this year and are convinced they will struggle to get even 5th place. I think the general concensus was that he's a prick !!

One guy who came on & was a tad less negative, was called ...... wait for it .... a "Rose-Tinter".

FD · Post by FD » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:12 pm

Anyone else see the game?

Just how bad was Howard Webb?

If he's the best the league has to offer then we're all doomed.

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:16 am

bobo the clown wrote:Just listened to Radio Merseyside's post-match phone in. Post the Liverpool 1-2 Arsenal game, that is.

... & we think Megson's unpopular ??

Now I know that this radio station only covers a proportion of the city, as there are other teams there (Marine, Halewood, Southport at a push) & also only a small proportion of Liverpool fans as most of them, a-la Stetford Redsox, live out of the city (& why wouldn't you live out of that city ?) but nonetheless the anti-Benitez bile was amazing.

OK, I wish we were "failing" at his standard, but their expectations and their financial requirements demand a high level of achievement & it's clear that many of them don't reckon that he can help them get there. God, I hope they're right.

The general view seems to be that he's clueless & that he's ripped the heart out of the club & that he's wasted piles of cash. They seem to think that he'll stay till season end, but will go in the summer. There's pessimism that they'll get anywhere this year and are convinced they will struggle to get even 5th place. I think the general concensus was that he's a prick !!

One guy who came on & was a tad less negative, was called ...... wait for it .... a "Rose-Tinter".

Good thing Blurred one of the few Pool fans that reads this site otherwise they would have found this little fact out a lot earlier and he might have been let go by now.

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