The Politics Thread

[Lord Kangana]

Point of order here, but E-numbers? Surely UK-numbers henceforth?

[Bruce Rioja]

Point of order here, but E-numbers? Surely UK-numbers henceforth?

That's a good point. I see that European Article Numbers are now International Article Numbers but are still referred to as EANs. I and pretty much everyone else just calls them barcodes though.

[BWFC_Insane]

Alan Johnson says at times he felt the "Labour leadership was working against the rest of the party" in the EU referendum.

Alan Johnson says this. Just let that sink in.

[Prufrock]

I can't wait for Corbyn to go, the Tories win a landslide at the GE, and then the fruitloop Corbynites will screech that we only lost because we ditched him and then it will Tories forever.

[Lord Kangana]

Perhaps better to let him lose the next election then? There's enough balloons about who would vote for Boris despite what we know about him.

[Prufrock]

Saviour Keir Starmer quit this afternoon. Basically clear Corbyn lost almost all support amongst the PLP and so position untenable.

[Prufrock]

Perhaps better to let him lose the next election then? There's enough balloons about who would vote for Boris despite what we know about him.

I want to say that, just to be right, but they won't have it even if he is in charge and we get demolished (it will be a Blairite conspiracy, or the "MSM"). Sooner we get rid of him and start at least trying to win an election, even if it isn't this time, the better.

[Worthy4England]

Saviour Keir Starmer quit this afternoon. Basically clear Corbyn lost almost all support amongst the PLP and so position untenable.

So what happens when he stands again and wins again?

[Bijou Bob]

We all have a good chuckle??

[bobo the clown]

I see Len McClusky, some brand of Communist & therefore not eligible as a Labour Party member, is saying that he will see to it anyone opposing Jeremy will get deselected as his henchmen will flood local party sections.

... and I thought the Tories were in a mess.

[thebish]

... and I thought the Tories were in a mess.

You thought right - and consequently, the country...

[Prufrock]

Literally the only thing I've predicted correctly in the last two years is that he'd be f*cling useless.

[LeverEnd]

Literally the only thing I've predicted correctly in the last two years is that he'd be f*cling useless.

I'd say well done, but...

If he stands and gets in again it's time for anyone with a clue to form a new party and break away from.labour. Blair started the decline, leave it to the hand wringers and 6th formers who went for Corbyn. Let's hope the party members see sense.

[Prufrock]

I don't know what happens if he stands again and wins. Surely with the changes to union funding, now is the time to just break away. I wouldn't be surprised, given its a secret ballot so no recriminations, if 80% voted no confidence. Just start a new Labour party (top tip, don't call it New Labour). He's even lost Owen Jones ffs!!

[BWFC_Insane]

I don't know what happens if he stands again and wins. Surely with the changes to union funding, now is the time to just break away. I wouldn't be surprised, given its a secret ballot so no recriminations, if 80% voted no confidence. Just start a new Labour party (top tip, don't call it New Labour). He's even lost Owen Jones ffs!!

Establishing a new party with a structure and funding takes a long time.

Whilst I can see a split happening it will merely give Boris 10 years plus to wreak havoc.

Just ask the sdp.

[Gary the Enfield]

I don't know what happens if he stands again and wins. Surely with the changes to union funding, now is the time to just break away. I wouldn't be surprised, given its a secret ballot so no recriminations, if 80% voted no confidence. Just start a new Labour party (top tip, don't call it New Labour). He's even lost Owen Jones ffs!!

Establishing a new party with a structure and funding takes a long time.

Whilst I can see a split happening it will merely give Boris 10 years plus to wreak havoc.

Just ask the sdp.

Boris won't survive the next election.
Cameron has effectively hamstrung the next leader of the Conservative Party (and the Conservative Party as a whole) by leaving someone else to either:

a) Push the button on Article 50 therefore pissing off the 48% of the electorate who wanted to stay in the EU

or

b) NOT pushing the button on Article 50 and trying to negotiate a way of staying in Europe whilst not pissing off 52% of the populace who voted to leave

Whoever picks up the poisoned chalice (and I notice with interest that Osbourne has said he won't stand for leader) is shafted politically.


Interesting times. Either way Boris is fvcked. Or Gove. Or May. And I couldn't be happier for the whole bunch of odius Fvcknuggets.

[BWFC_Insane]

I don't know what happens if he stands again and wins. Surely with the changes to union funding, now is the time to just break away. I wouldn't be surprised, given its a secret ballot so no recriminations, if 80% voted no confidence. Just start a new Labour party (top tip, don't call it New Labour). He's even lost Owen Jones ffs!!

Establishing a new party with a structure and funding takes a long time.

Whilst I can see a split happening it will merely give Boris 10 years plus to wreak havoc.

Just ask the sdp.

Boris won't survive the next election.
Cameron has effectively hamstrung the next leader of the Conservative Party (and the Conservative Party as a whole) by leaving someone else to either:

a) Push the button on Article 50 therefore pissing off the 48% of the electorate who wanted to stay in the EU

or

b) NOT pushing the button on Article 50 and trying to negotiate a way of staying in Europe whilst not pissing off 52% of the populace who voted to leave

Whoever picks up the poisoned chalice (and I notice with interest that Osbourne has said he won't stand for leader) is shafted politically.


Interesting times. Either way Boris is fvcked. Or Gove. Or May. And I couldn't be happier for the whole bunch of odius Fvcknuggets.

They would be normally. But they will win the next two elections because there is zero challenge to them. That is the bottom line. Nobody can win an election even against the most unpopular Tory government ever, nobody else can win.

[Gary the Enfield]

[Beefheart]

I'd agree, but then we're all assuming that the Labour party isn't so politically inept that they won't be able to stop themselves for publicly apologising for losing the referendum and it somehow getting spun into it all being their fault.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Maybe, just maybe, folk will start to realise that voting for the same 2 parties election after election will return the same results and nothing will change. If people want change like they say they do, then the only way to make that change is to en mass vote for other parties rather than worrying about the party they hate getting in. Tactical voting is the surest way to ensure nothing changes.