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TANGODANCER wrote:Watched The Turin Shroud-The new evidence.
Seems the scientists are not quite so sure now in the light of rcent developments. It's quite conclusive that the fragments they tested were from an area repaired after a fifteenth century fire. Now they're doing more tests after high tech. photography proves that the image couldn't possibly be any form of pigment, ie, painted on, and has three dimensional depth that means it can only be from a real person. Fascinating programme.
to risk resurrecting a previous discussion - a load of old bollox!
(what on earth does "three-dimensional depth" mean?)
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Can you get Channel 4 on I-Player? If so, you can watch it and decide fo yourself.thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote:Watched The Turin Shroud-The new evidence.
Seems the scientists are not quite so sure now in the light of rcent developments. It's quite conclusive that the fragments they tested were from an area repaired after a fifteenth century fire. Now they're doing more tests after high tech. photography proves that the image couldn't possibly be any form of pigment, ie, painted on, and has three dimensional depth that means it can only be from a real person. Fascinating programme.
to risk resurrecting a previous discussion - a load of old bollox!
(what on earth does "three-dimensional depth" mean?)
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TANGODANCER wrote:Can you get Channel 4 on I-Player? If so, you can watch it and decide fo yourself.thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote:Watched The Turin Shroud-The new evidence.
Seems the scientists are not quite so sure now in the light of rcent developments. It's quite conclusive that the fragments they tested were from an area repaired after a fifteenth century fire. Now they're doing more tests after high tech. photography proves that the image couldn't possibly be any form of pigment, ie, painted on, and has three dimensional depth that means it can only be from a real person. Fascinating programme.
to risk resurrecting a previous discussion - a load of old bollox!
(what on earth does "three-dimensional depth" mean?)
oh - I didn't mean the programme, Tango - I meant the "shroud". You haven't really said what was "new" or explained "three dimensional depth" - is that "new"?
several things seem obvious to me....
1. The Jews did not use shrouds like that (John's gospel mentions a separate face cloth - does the pope think John's gospel is wrong?)
2. If you lie down and put a cloth over your face as was supposed to be what happened on the "shroud" - then it would produce a distorted image of your face - not a flat one (as the shroud has) - this seems basic to me (also "Jesus" is weirdly and grossly long and thin on the shroud...)
3. the "shroud" mysteriously appears in the middle of the 14th century with no record before that - which seems unlikely in the extreme
4. no other burial cloth has left an imprint of the face of the deceased
5. there are about 40 other "genuine" shrouds - not to mention enough bits of the "true cross" to build a ship - several "heads" of John the Baptist (which at first glance seems unlikely!), several bottles of Jesus' tears - and a few bottles of Mary's breast milk (eugh!).... relics were at their height in the 14th/15th century - when the "Turin" shroud magically appeared... (add one to one)
6. there are no traces of burial spices on the cloth - which is very odd - why would that be?
7. and that's just for starters.........
so - unless you can tell me this isn't in the long line of "sensational new claims" (that turn out not to be) Channel Four "investigations" - then it would be at the bottom of my pile of stuff to watch.....
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Last night, watched 10-year-old Master Zulu appear as a Lost Boy in Peter Pan at The Deco in Northampton. He had appeared in it throughout December and last night was the last night. It's the first time he has appeared in a professional production. He's only attended stage school since September and I was as proud as anything. Full house (980) and they nailed it!
Peter Pan was played by the lovely Louisa Lytton (Eastenders, The Bill, Strictly) phwoarr!! There was a fair sprinkling of The Bill, Brooksides and other soap stars in the major roles too.
It was the second time I had seen Master Zulu in the production during the run. He's now keen to do more - so now there are no spare nights left in the week!
And then home to watch Jools Holland and demolish a bit of red wine. Smashing!
Peter Pan was played by the lovely Louisa Lytton (Eastenders, The Bill, Strictly) phwoarr!! There was a fair sprinkling of The Bill, Brooksides and other soap stars in the major roles too.
It was the second time I had seen Master Zulu in the production during the run. He's now keen to do more - so now there are no spare nights left in the week!

And then home to watch Jools Holland and demolish a bit of red wine. Smashing!
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yeah she was great, everyone was - even enjoyed boy george!William the White wrote:Yep. Florence Welch stunning.General Mannerheim wrote:well it was my first sober NYE for 15 years (kind of)
but i tell you what - That Jools Holland program was fooking immense!!!
Dizzee Rascal was the star tho, esp his duet with Shingai Shoniwa!!!
I don't know what I make of her - she has an interesting voice and some OK songs but there's something about her that makes it hard to like.William the White wrote:Yep. Florence Welch stunning.General Mannerheim wrote:well it was my first sober NYE for 15 years (kind of)
but i tell you what - That Jools Holland program was fooking immense!!!
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agree entirely about Dalton and Simm... I think we could have lost the mawkish goodbyes sequence - he should have "died" in the glass room with the radiation... it'll be refreshing to have a new doctor, Tennant was becomimg a bit of a gurning parody of himself...hisroyalgingerness wrote:I thought it was good. Dalton was ace, Simm was ace and the moment he realises how he's gonna die was very well done. You seen the trailer for next series?
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It wasn't his fault, the scripts became a bit average at one point, Russell T still struggles to write an ending. Agree it should've ended in the radiation room, it was "Wrath of Khan-esque" was that.thebish wrote:agree entirely about Dalton and Simm... I think we could have lost the mawkish goodbyes sequence - he should have "died" in the glass room with the radiation... it'll be refreshing to have a new doctor, Tennant was becomimg a bit of a gurning parody of himself...hisroyalgingerness wrote:I thought it was good. Dalton was ace, Simm was ace and the moment he realises how he's gonna die was very well done. You seen the trailer for next series?
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Last year we got Setanta free for a couple of weeks. So, in a burst of nostalgia, I just watched our game versus Sunderland (kept on my pvr) where we came back from a goal down to win 1-4. Elmander scored a couple (should have had four) and was man of the match. Nolan had a great game. It all seemed like fiction somehow....but I enjoyed it.
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Yep, looking good in the main, though seeing the Doc punch someone is weird. It looks a lot darker than usual, but that's classic Moffatt. Which is good, because he was always the best writer imho, though i hope he doesn't go stale.hisroyalgingerness wrote:I thought it was good. Dalton was ace, Simm was ace and the moment he realises how he's gonna die was very well done. You seen the trailer for next series?
And it's got the angels of death in it, which is awesome. I watched a clip from 'Blink' t'other day and it still makes me jump!
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."
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The episode kinda summed-up all that is good and bad with RTD as writer. He's a very clever writer, and is able to make your heart/gut wrench - the 'four knocks' twist was absolutely brilliantly conceived.thebish wrote:agree entirely about Dalton and Simm... I think we could have lost the mawkish goodbyes sequence - he should have "died" in the glass room with the radiation... it'll be refreshing to have a new doctor, Tennant was becomimg a bit of a gurning parody of himself...hisroyalgingerness wrote:I thought it was good. Dalton was ace, Simm was ace and the moment he realises how he's gonna die was very well done. You seen the trailer for next series?
Yet he does tend to go the whole nine yards with all the emotional guff, which although can be nice in bits, can take the shine away from the main storyline (though the focus of this was always going to be 'goodbye, Dave' I guess). For the last ten minutes it was like watching someone on their last day at work going around gladhanding everyone.
Cracking last line for him, though.
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If the image couldn't be from any form of pigment then it couldn't possibly be from human skin, as human skintone is defined by pigment. Depth is a dimension in itself and cannot, by definition, be three dimensional. Tango, believe whatever you want to believe, owd lad, but sometimes you'd be better off keeping your own counsel.TANGODANCER wrote:photography proves that the image couldn't possibly be any form of pigment, ie, painted on, and has three dimensional depth that means it can only be from a real person.

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All washed down with some bombay mix and a lemsip. Rock and rollmofgimmers wrote:Cracking viewing all round there fella!Bruno wrote:'Hunger' about Bobby Sands and the hunger strikers in the Maze Prison in Ireland.
Didn't spare any details, grim viewing.
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