Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

[boltonboris]

If anything was afoot, the agent would know. It might not be legit, bit players are routinely sounded out about moves very early so clubs don't waste weeks haggling over someone that has no interest whatsoever.

Exactly... We wouldn't even be approaching the club, before we've spoke to his agent.. It's just how it works. You sound them out first

[bobo the clown]

Think we can score this one as a miss for Mr Nixon.

I'm fairly certain he will have used some weasel words to indicate that we both might and might not sign him, so it clearly won't be interpreted as a miss.

As ever. Little hints here & there. Pointless little "in the know" remarks. Eventually something happens and he claims that as what he was hinting at.

[BWFC_Insane]

Think we can score this one as a miss for Mr Nixon.

I'm fairly certain he will have used some weasel words to indicate that we both might and might not sign him, so it clearly won't be interpreted as a miss.

This is a stupid point because any situation you may or may not sign a player. How can he say "you will sign X" without a crystal ball? He can only tell you what is (or what he believes) to be happening at any particular moment.

Sorry, BWFCi but it's not a stupid point - when trying to evaluate his accuracy, you have to be able to judge whether he thinks a player will be signed or not. Or, at the very least, whether the club are even making an effort to sign him.

If he says, "The club have made enquiries for player X" and the club deny it, then either:
a) He's wrong; or
b) The club are lying.

If he then says, "ah, but circumstances, blah, blah..." then he's acting like self-described psychics do, and trying to get people to count his hits but not his misses. If his claims aren't at least potentially falsifiable then they're worthless.

FWIW, I think he used to have a lot of good information when his mate was [were] at the club, and now has some, but less - he knows more than me about what's happening, for instance, but that's not difficult.

I mean nobody would suggest he is 100% accurate. Not even our local paper is 100% accurate and they supposedly only print when things are confirmed by the club.

My view with Nixon has always been that for whatever reason (and I can't imagine what posesses him to do this) he tweets stuff that is happening at an early stage that you'd never normally hear about. Of course sometimes that will be stuff that doesn't go anywhere that perhaps the club want to deny even if there is some truth behind it. And of course he may get tips from agents that are wrong where he is being used to engineer moves. He may just make it up as well, but for me there is enough evidence to suggest not. And I'd like to think I'm cynical enough and analytical enough to spot that!

[thebish]

either way - I don't really understand why it is that folk seem always to get so agitated by it...

there's precious little Bolton tittle-tattle as it is - without Nixon, there'd be even less and what would we have to talk about or dismiss then??

[BWFC_Insane]

either way - I don't really understand why it is that folk seem always to get so agitated by it...

there's precious little Bolton tittle-tattle as it is - without Nixon, there'd be even less and what would we have to talk about or dismiss then??

As I've said before he's a national journalist interested in the championship and predominantly the smaller north west clubs.

Probably the only one. As you say he is probably the only gossip link we've got given the BN seem to always be three days behind!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

... wow. Just caight up with two days of transfer gossip (^ up there)
I've learnt:
I need an abacus when discussing Dougie's quotes.
We no longer live in the 80s (or 70s).
We've signed Dean Windass (whoever he is).
and we've signed Stacey Murray (whoever he is).
And LK has got a mate down the pub who's called Nostradamus.

But where are the three strikers I was promised?

[bobo the clown]

... wow. Just caight up with two days of transfer gossip (^ up there)
I've learnt:
I need an abacus when discussing Dougie's quotes.
We no longer live in the 80s (or 70s).
We've signed Dean Windass (whoever he is).
and we've signed Stacey Murray (whoever he is).
And LK has got a mate down the pub who's called Nostradamus.

But where are the three strikers I was promised?

We have to exit three first, apparently. Insane said.

[Puskas]

I mean nobody would suggest he is 100% accurate. Not even our local paper is 100% accurate and they supposedly only print when things are confirmed by the club.

My view with Nixon has always been that for whatever reason (and I can't imagine what posesses him to do this) he tweets stuff that is happening at an early stage that you'd never normally hear about. Of course sometimes that will be stuff that doesn't go anywhere that perhaps the club want to deny even if there is some truth behind it. And of course he may get tips from agents that are wrong where he is being used to engineer moves. He may just make it up as well, but for me there is enough evidence to suggest not. And I'd like to think I'm cynical enough and analytical enough to spot that!

I'm not sure anyone would claim he makes stuff up (well, some might, but, you know...)

However, I don't think it's controversial to say that his access to inside information from the club is less than it once was, and he has to rely more on other contacts.

I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate that he may have better contacts regarding the club than other journos - partly down to his previous insider contacts...

However, as you point out, he's still going to be fed nonsense by agents trying to drum up interest in their clients. He knows this, and part of his job is to filter it. However, it's possibly also worth bearing in mind that he may not sift it all, as printing some of it may be a price he pays for the genuine scoops...

[Puskas]

for me - it helps a long summer pass...

Lots of things help the summer pass. Discussing how accurate Nixon is these days, for one.

Drinking boot polish from a tin, for another.

Hey-ho. Funny old world.

[thebish]

I mean nobody would suggest he is 100% accurate. Not even our local paper is 100% accurate and they supposedly only print when things are confirmed by the club.

My view with Nixon has always been that for whatever reason (and I can't imagine what posesses him to do this) he tweets stuff that is happening at an early stage that you'd never normally hear about. Of course sometimes that will be stuff that doesn't go anywhere that perhaps the club want to deny even if there is some truth behind it. And of course he may get tips from agents that are wrong where he is being used to engineer moves. He may just make it up as well, but for me there is enough evidence to suggest not. And I'd like to think I'm cynical enough and analytical enough to spot that!

I'm not sure anyone would claim he makes stuff up (well, some might, but, you know...)

oh - they do! People suggest that he either:

1. just makes stuff up
2. operates with such vague hints that anything that happens he can then claim he was talking about

or

3. both

people have been known to claim that nixon has no more knowledge than anyone making wild, drunken guesses in the dark...

which is what BWFCi responds to - and it all kicks off every three months or so...

and it's all very exciting (not).

[thebish]

for me - it helps a long summer pass...

Lots of things help the summer pass. Discussing how accurate Nixon is these days, for one.

Drinking boot polish from a tin, for another.

hmmmm... it's been a while! I blame those rubbish sponge-jobs that you just have to lick...

[Lord Kangana]

I mean nobody would suggest he is 100% accurate. Not even our local paper is 100% accurate and they supposedly only print when things are confirmed by the club.

My view with Nixon has always been that for whatever reason (and I can't imagine what posesses him to do this) he tweets stuff that is happening at an early stage that you'd never normally hear about. Of course sometimes that will be stuff that doesn't go anywhere that perhaps the club want to deny even if there is some truth behind it. And of course he may get tips from agents that are wrong where he is being used to engineer moves. He may just make it up as well, but for me there is enough evidence to suggest not. And I'd like to think I'm cynical enough and analytical enough to spot that!

I'm not sure anyone would claim he makes stuff up (well, some might, but, you know...)

oh - they do! People suggest that he either:

1. just makes stuff up
2. operates with such vague hints that anything that happens he can then claim he was talking about

or

3. both

people have been known to claim that nixon has no more knowledge than anyone making wild, drunken guesses in the dark...

which is what BWFCi responds to - and it all kicks off every three months or so...

and it's all very exciting (not).

Its so dull you've managed to get yourself more involved than the original protagonists!

[bobo the clown]

Heh, heh heh. Gotcha vicar.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Heh, heh heh. Gotcha vicar.

He's not a vicar - I've been told off about this, so I know.

[thebish]

Heh, heh heh. Gotcha vicar.

pah! as Puskas said - there's tons of entertaining stuff to do..

[Andy Waller]

Heh, heh heh. Gotcha vicar.

pah! as Puskas said - there's tons of entertaining stuff to do..

Do you drink polish? Bet your poo's shiny?

[Gary the Enfield]

Heh, heh heh. Gotcha vicar.

pah! as Puskas said - there's tons of entertaining stuff to do..

Do you drink polish? Bet your poo's shiny?

More Buff. Think about it.

[Il Pirate]

Mrs Murrey seem a rude sod !!

Fck off then, we didn't want him anyway ... wouldn't sign him if he was begging us to. Nah-na, ner-ner ner.

Yeah Stacey, feck you (and your mom, whether or not she's got it going on).
We don't need another Emma. (we don't need to know the way home)

Well I for one thought that was rather good. OOohhhhhhhhhhhh.......Rachel Hunter.... (when she were fit not fat...)

[TKIZ!]

Bolton Evening News has re-linked us with Joe Mason on loan

[ChrisC]

Bolton Evening News has re-linked us with Joe Mason on loan

Been nailed on all summer with Cardiff having 47 forwards